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Old 05-20-2008, 12:41 AM
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Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

Hi all,

This problem is probably related to the green areas I discussed in a previous thread. Since that thread didn't lead to any corrections in Enhancer, I will try again here, from a somewhat different standpoint.

I have the Enhancer 9.1 demo now and I notice that the previews in both the Focus Mode and the Enhancer mode in no way represent what your result will be if you apply the current settings to your image.

Oddly, the previews are sprinkled with false green areas (those again) and also false yellow areas. Those areas respond differently to various settings in Enhancer, but they never show up in the Applied picture. Because of this, the Preview is of no aid in adjusting settings to get the results you desire.

I am attaching an image showing the Enhancer Preview (in Photoshop Elements 5) and then the Applied image.

GB
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:00 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

If we could reproduce this bug we will fix it.
We can't get such results (tested on all our computers).

We asked you some questions but you did not reply us.

While we do not have all information we can't help you!

Please answer:

What is your monitor profile?

You can find this information here:
Display Properties -> Settings
- click on "Advanced" -> Color Management


What video card do you use?


Also:
Did you set any additional settings for 3D games?
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:51 PM
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Hi AKVIS,

I am still amazed that you can't see these Preview problems on your computers. However, I am attaching some screens in response to your message.

GB
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File Type: jpg Color mgmt 3.JPG (87.7 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg Display.JPG (92.4 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg Game controllers.JPG (71.1 KB, 11 views)
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:55 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

Thank you! We guess this color profile leads to the problem.

We would like to test Enhancer with it. Can you send us the profile as icm file?
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:01 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

Also:
we do not need the Game Controller info, I meant the following settings (see screenshots made for nvidia card):
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:03 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

Please have a look at the second screenshot - it must be straight line, not curve.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:05 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

By the way, we have found this profile in the Internet, so you do not need to send it!
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

Hi AKVIS,

I could not find a graphic display like the one you showed, containing a straight line. I could find no such line, straight or curved. Perhaps if I ran the Display Wizard it would show something like that, but I hesitate to do that at this moment because it might change my display from its present settings.

My current display setup is working fine with my other graphics software (Photoshop 5, Photoshop 7, Photoshop CS, Elements 5, Genuine Fractals, PhotoZoom, Corel Painter 8.1 and IX.5, Corel Draw X3, Corel Photo PAINT X3, etc) and only AKVIS software seems to have trouble with it. So I am hoping that AKVIS will "fall in line" with "the rest of the world" on this display setup.

I am attaching a couple of NVIDIA screens that I did find while looking for the straight line screen.

GB
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:09 AM
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Re: Enhancer 9.1 previews are inaccurate

It looks like sometimes Enhancer does not work proper with the profile you use.
It may happen very rarely, we could not able to see this "effect" for a long time. There are several conditions on your computer which together lead to the incorrect displaying in the Enhancer plugin. We will fix it soon.

Please set your monitor profile as sRGB for a time.

Meanwhile we will fix problem and try to make it work with the profile HS95P_93.
I will write to you when the updated version is available.
Now please try to set sRGB and let us know what you see.

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Old 05-22-2008, 11:44 PM
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Hi AKVIS,

I did reset my monitor to sRGB and used Enhancer in Photoshop CS in both the Focus mode and the Enhancer mode. Both modes showed both the green areas and yellow areas in the Preview, to varying degrees, very similar to my previous monitor setting. Actually, nVIDIA provided a large selection of possible profiles, including three different sRGB profiles. I have attached thumbnails of the available profiles.

I tried all three of the sRGB profiles, with similar but somewhat different results. The last of the three sRGB profiles showed less green and yellow areas than the other two, but the Previews were still nothing similar to the Applied results. Which, incidentally, weren't bad for the AKVIS Default and AKVIS Strong.

After thinking about it, I think this is still primarily a problem with the Green arithmetic. When the saturated green areas show up on the red petals, green + red = yellow, which shows up spuriously on the red petals. The red petals actually contain no green or yellow areas (except for two injured yellowish spots on the tip of one of the red petals), so the appearance of the green areas and the yellow areas on the red petals is some kind of software bug.

If you want I can email you the original JPEG camera image I have been using in these tests.

GB
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