View Full Version : Almost a Painting I loved this photo from the first time I saw it.
It's almost a painting already, just need a little nudge.
Thought I'd share it with my friends. ;)
It's from here (http://gal.mvc.ru/), though I don't remember which page.
[Edit - found it! people, page 32]
Rô Kraellin 06-06-2005, 12:16 AM you most definitely have the 'eye', Ro. is that one posted your touch-up or the original?
K. ...is that one posted your touch-up or the original?This is the original!
Like I said - it's almost there already.
I've often imagined some sort of pointillist version, but I never quite got it right.
Rô Janet Petty 06-06-2005, 08:46 AM This photo is absolutely gorgeous. It seemed almost a shame to manipulate it. I wanted to go for a turn-of-the-century impressionistic feel; but things didn't quite turn out that way this time.
Thanks Ro for the change of pace photo.
Janet I wanted to go for a turn-of-the-century impressionistic feel.... That's just lovely, Janet.
The style fits perfectly to the photo.
Rô Steve Conway 06-06-2005, 02:26 PM Steve Conway Steve Conway 06-06-2005, 02:32 PM Steve Conway Steve Conway 06-06-2005, 02:42 PM Steve Conway Steve Conway 06-06-2005, 02:45 PM Steve Conway Kraellin 06-06-2005, 03:27 PM nice touch, janet :)
Ro, yes, it reminds me of a classical style, but i cant remember the painter. he used a lot of brighter colors but not impressionistic. and Ro, one suggestion: you might try doing an antiquing of this 'painting'. it just begs for a slightly cracked paint look.
also, for those searching for the original on that site Ro gave, i went through 30 pages of the 'people' section and couldnt find it, so start your search at 31 :)
K
edit: lol. it would seem i missed Ro's remark about finding it on page 32.... you might know i'd stop two pages short ;). cazubi 06-06-2005, 09:26 PM I played with the glass distortion filter, then applied paint dabs and adjusted sat. I added a Wow media texture, and then used the smudge tool with a thick oil brush.
Cathy Kraellin 06-07-2005, 12:50 AM Renoir maybe?
very nice, cazubi. love all the talent around here.
K. Legacy~Art 06-07-2005, 12:14 PM This and that...
Upped the hues and then added cut out *like they do with pop art* and added Trimoons art texture. Janet Petty 06-07-2005, 03:34 PM This is such a beautiful photo to work on that I'm not surprised the results acheived so far are outstanding. Nice work everyone.
Janet Kraellin 06-07-2005, 04:00 PM here's a sample of what i was trying to do with this image. done in Paint Shop Pro 7.xx with layers of fine leather, rough leather, brush strokes, aged newspaper, and a very high contrast layer. i wanted to 'age the painting'.
K. Glad to see eveyone is having fun!! Seems that I'm not the only one inspired by this one.
... i went through 30 pages of the 'people' section and couldnt find it, so start your search at 31 :)...good thing for you!! Bet you found a whole load of interesting images to play with. :happy: :happy:
i wanted to 'age the painting'. If I was doing this in Photoshop, I'd be trying out some Render>Lighting Effects, or maybe Emboss - that would break the paint up even more - don't know how that translates into Paint Shop Pro. I've never tried aging a photo, usually I'm going in the other direction, so I can't offer any more tips.
Here's one of my attempts at Pointillist with an Art-History brush.
I sent the brush to the Resources section - should appear there soon.
Rô Kraellin 06-07-2005, 08:03 PM hehehe, yeah, lots of interesting images there. finally saw your note where you'd found it on page 32. lol.
i'll look at emboss. it's prolly very similar to p-shop's. still learning all these tools. all Paint Shop Pro 7 has in actual lighting effects is 'illumination' and 'starburst'. but i did just install deep paint 2. that may have something also. i have a number of filters that i can try as well. what i was really after was that sort of thick paint effect that cracks with time. i've got the cracking effect, but it has almost no depth to it.
the pointillist effect is interesting. can you vary the effect much?
K. the pointillist effect is interesting. can you vary the effect much?Before painting, you can vary the setup of the brush a lot. This one uses hue, saturation and purity jitter to make the variation in the colours. However once you start painting with the Art-History brush... well.. it has been likened to a pack of wild horses!
Here, I did another layer with a smaller size brush to bring out a little more detail.
I don't even know if Paint Shop Pro has something like the Art-history brush. Does it?
Rô cazubi 06-07-2005, 08:37 PM Kraellin, I am a texture collector. Dream Suite offers lots of crackle, and other textures, but a cheaper way to go is take pictures of wrinkles, cracks, thick paint etc. and scan them in or load digital images. You can desaturate them and adjust levels until the texture looks nice and then use them as a top layer over your pictures in overlay ore multiply mode. Another source for textures is scrap book paper. There is a treasure trove of backgrounds and textures that scrap book makers use.
Cathy :wavey: Kraellin 06-07-2005, 08:46 PM cathy,
of course! in fact, i used to do that back in the 8 bit and 16 bit days of computing. i'd take pictures of gravel, stones, leaves, etc and use those for texture....d'oh, i must be getting old ;) thanks!
K. Steve Conway 06-08-2005, 10:49 AM I tried adding some brush strokes from Impressionist to your darkened image.
Not nesessarily better, just wanted to see if it would work.
Thanks for allowing me to play with it.
Steve C. Kraellin 06-08-2005, 12:15 PM thanks Ro.
i'm not sure if Paint Shop Pro has anything similar... still exploring all the tools, but i dont think so. i do have a lot of plugins and imported textures and patterns and so on, but i cant use the p-shop brushes. they have a different extension that psp doesnt recognize. perhaps deep paint will have what i want. still exploring that one also.
cazubi,
is Dream Suite a stand-along program or a plug-in for p-shop? i'll have to google it. thanks :)
steve,
didnt comment on your earlier stuff. you posted while i was mid-post and working on an image. nice :) and on your last post, you've got the feel/age sort of effect i wanted, but you lost a bit of the cracking. nice effect, but not quite what i wanted. the look i was going for is that deep paint look, where they apply the paint with a blade rather than a brush, lots of depth to it, but it's aged and cracked now. you've got the aging and 'yellowing' down, but not the depth and cracking... at least for what i was looking to do. still, a nice effect :)
i'll continue to work on it. oh, and is the style of painting i'm talking about here 'impasto' or is that something else?
oh, and Ro, i think you forgot to actually post your last image ;) or did you put it on your new host site?
K. Steve Conway 06-08-2005, 12:51 PM Thought I would keep playing.
See if this is closer.
Steve
BTW, I am using Paint Shop Pro also. Ver. 9. ...the look i was going for is that deep paint look, where they apply the paint with a blade rather than a brush, lots of depth to it, .......and is the style of painting i'm talking about here 'impasto' or is that something else?
Yep, that's it. Though it can be applied with a brush too (or a trowel)
oh, and Ro, i think you forgot to actually post your last image ;) When I said "Here" in post #18, I was referring to the atachment in post #16.
or did you put it on your new host site?K.It's there too.
See if this is closer.Not exactly impasto - but it sure looks good!
Rô Steve Conway 06-08-2005, 01:38 PM OK, last one.
Steve Steve Conway 06-08-2005, 02:03 PM Here's one in impasto. Not sure it goes with the delicate impression of the photo.
Thanks Ro for your nice comments.
Steve C. Kraellin 06-08-2005, 03:00 PM steve,
ok, that last one is getting much closer to what i was thinking of... lots of depth on the paint itself, but spread it around more, crack it a bit, and give it some 'edge' on the high parts of the thick paint. you're very close ;)
also, since you said you're using Paint Shop Pro 9, how do you like it? how does it compare to earlier versions, at least back to psp 7, which is what i use, and if you know, how does it compare to photoshop or photoshop cs? i'm particularly interested because i'm debating whether to go the expensive photoshop route or stay with psp but just upgrade, and i'd love any comparisons.
Craig
edit: oh, and Ro, thanks. always helpful and i love your work! Steve, that's real good. :nod: :nod:
Been thinking though.. if you're going for an aged look maybe you should yellow the whites a bit.
Doesn't seem right somehow, bright white cracked paint?
Rô Hadn't tried Impasto before - here's my first shot at it.
Rô Kraellin 06-08-2005, 08:45 PM Ro,
i like the effect on the dress, not so much on the foreground girl's face, however. a bit much maybe there?
p-shop has an impasto effect/brush/filter, yes, no?
Craig p-shop has an impasto effect/brush/filter, yes, no?No, this is from (Corel) Painter.
I saved two versions, one with the impasto effect turned on, the other turned off. Back in Photoshop, I set them up as two layers and masked out some of the impasto effect on the faces - not enough it seems! :bigthmb:
Rô Steve Conway 06-09-2005, 08:01 AM Makes sense to me.
Guess I was trying more for an example than a good finished product.
I'll fool around with it some more...see what I come up with.
Steve
Steve, that's real good. :nod: :nod:
Been thinking though.. if you're going for an aged look maybe you should yellow the whites a bit.
Doesn't seem right somehow, bright white cracked paint?
Rô Steve Conway 06-09-2005, 08:21 AM [QUOTE=Kraellin]steve,
ok, that last one is getting much closer to what i was thinking of... lots of depth on the paint itself, but spread it around more, crack it a bit, and give it some 'edge' on the high parts of the thick paint. you're very close ;)
also, since you said you're using Paint Shop Pro 9, how do you like it? how does it compare to earlier versions, at least back to psp 7, which is what i use, and if you know, how does it compare to photoshop or photoshop cs? i'm particularly interested because i'm debating whether to go the expensive photoshop route or stay with psp but just upgrade, and i'd love any comparisons.
Craig
Really like Paint Shop Pro 9. Also have version 8 installed. Since ver. 8 you have scripting ability, both write and run. In version 9 there is a fav among psp users called "art media effects." It allows brush and palette types to paint from scratch.
Those are just two of the additions since 7. There are many more. I would find a review site on the net that lists all the "bells & whistles" for more info.
I can only compare it to Photoshop Elements 2, but Paint Shop Pro wins. If you are a commercial artist or do this kind of work, then I am sure you would probably need Photoshop or other high-end product. For home use Paint Shop Pro is great funtionally and price-wise.
And I'll keep playing with the ladies pic. Like everyone says, that's a great pic as is.
Steve cazubi 06-09-2005, 08:33 AM Kraellin, Dream Suite is a both a stand-alone program and a plug-in. I like it better as a stand-alone. You can look into it on http://www.autofx.com/
Cathy :happy: Steve Conway 06-09-2005, 09:21 AM The Impasto needs to show a bit more.
Comments?
Steve Steve Conway 06-09-2005, 10:43 AM Thought less color saturation might add aging. Also seems to bring out impasto a bit more.
Steve Elleth 06-09-2005, 11:12 AM I used the AHB chalks and watercolor, Impressionist filter paint with fine brush strokes with that layer set to overlay at a low opacity, played with the saturation then applied a canvas texture.
High res version: here (http://www.pbase.com/elleth/image/44560803) Kraellin 06-09-2005, 02:58 PM thanks Ro :)
thanks Cathy :)
steve,
you're so close now i can smell the paint. narrower crack lines and have a bit more of them and you've got what i was thinking of. i like the first of those last two more, btw. a bit too much 'aging' on the 2nd one with the de-saturation? still, you're right close to the money with both of them.
yes, i'll check into the diffs on Paint Shop Pro 7, 8, and 9 online. i'm sure the user groups and sites will have something. and thanks :)
elleth,
lovely! that really looks like it's on canvas. could you reduce those tiny balls a bit? keep the canvas look, just reduce the depth of the those dots a bit and maybe the number of them a tiny bit and you've got a museum piece.
also, if i annoy anyone with my 'advices/critiques/suggestions' just let me know and i'll shut up. you all do amazing work and i really dont want to be the annoying 'art critic' here.
Craig Steve Conway 06-09-2005, 03:34 PM Ended up using textures and patterns for the cracks. Will have to see if I can come up with one with more and narrower. 8-)
And thanks for your comments.
Re. PSP9....you can download a demo and try it out for yourself. I am still finding new things to play with and I got my copy a day or so after it's release.
Steve
steve,
you're so close now i can smell the paint. narrower crack lines and have a bit more of them and you've got what i was thinking of. i like the first of those last two more, btw. a bit too much 'aging' on the 2nd one with the de-saturation? still, you're right close to the money with both of them.
yes, i'll check into the diffs on Paint Shop Pro 7, 8, and 9 online. i'm sure the user groups and sites will have something. and thanks :) Elleth 06-09-2005, 04:25 PM Thanks Craig, this result was a happy accident! :surprise:
I appreciate your input.
After taking a break and looking at the image again I agree with you about the "bumps".
This may be an improvement.
High res here (http://upload.pbase.com/image/44567628) Thanks Ro, I remember these two ladies from ages ago. Wonderful results everyone and thanks for the nudge Janet :) to try the Impressionist Brush in Painter. Kraellin 06-09-2005, 09:12 PM elleth,
you lost the bumps; good :) but in the process you lost some of the 'canvas' texture. not sure what the happy medium is there. i liked that canvas look. could you take that one and just mild opacity clone it down a bit on the bumps?
nice, neve :)
K. Quick one this time using Jaykita's Watercolour settings again.... jaykita 06-10-2005, 01:40 AM Bless you Neve! Your creation looks very lovely, indeed.
I see some fabulous work here. Ro, your image is a big hit, and no wonder. Thank you for it.
I had FUN doing this one. Started out in Painter 8, with changes in value and saturation, then cloned with a custom brush for a loose painted effect, changed backgr by hand, finally some additional color changes in ps7 using selective color adjustments. FABULOUS Judy! I've got no sense of balance at all when it comes to trying to do something like this...you've got a natural talent! Judy, I think this is about the best painting of yours I've seen so far....and that is saying A LOT!!!
:bow: :bow: :bow: Just Perfect :bow: :bow: :bow:
Thank you for honouring my humble thread!
Rô You're spot on Ro...Judy deserves the accolades. I came back for a second look :) Steve Conway 06-11-2005, 12:07 PM Tried a few more cracks as you suggested. The Impasto still doesn't show as much as I would like, but this is as close as I have been able to come to the old cracked impasto rendering.
Steve SWEngineer 06-11-2005, 07:00 PM Inspired by Ro's inspiration, here's my attempt at pointillism ala Elements 2:
- Resize picture to 800 pixels wide
- Ensure white is the background color & black the foreground color.
- Layers: (bottom to top)
A: BG.
Copy BG. Pointilize 3. Zoom way in. With magic wand set to 15%, click on a white area created by the pointillize filter. Save this selection & delete the layer.
B: Copy A. Underpainting (all settings basically zero).
C: Copy B. load selection. switch fore & backgnd color. Pointillize (3). Posterize 3. [opacity to 33%]
D: cp B. load selection. switch fore & backgnd color. Pointillize (3). Posterize 2. [opacity to 33%]
E: New layer. Fill with "towel" pattern. Invert. [Softlight, 23%]
F: Copy A. [Pinlight 40%]
G: Copy A. Highpass 3. [Overlay 100%]
H: Hue/Sat adjustment layer to tweak the color
Now resize back to 1115 pixels wide.
This is very sensitive to the size of the image you're working with. Without sizing down before processing, you get much finer "dots". Some might prefer this. I haven't been very impressed by the Pixelate:Pointillize filter, but I think the tricks used here help make it a useful tool.
-Mark DannyRaphael 06-11-2005, 08:01 PM Judy...
Ditto what Ro said. Simply exceptional.
After prepping the image in Photoshop (isolated the ladies onto a separate layer, replaced background, simplified a bit with Photoshop Dry Brush filter), I switched over to Painter IX.
Cloned using Artists > Sargent, Artists > Captured Bristle and Jeremy's Fave 2 > Scotts_Sargent** brushes. Blended with Just Add Water and Grainy Blender. Applied Surface Effects to the background.
Back to Photoshop for some fine tuning: Cloning to fix a couple areas I missed in Painter, sharpened a bit, used Hue/Sat, Selective Color and Color Balance adjustment layers to mess with the colors.
** From Jeremy Sutton's, Painter IX Creativity CD. Kraellin 06-11-2005, 09:06 PM steve,
i took another shot at it. this is only sort of what i wanted, but another look at it. my 'impasto' tends to go outside the lines too much, but does give some depth. the cracking would also tend to follow the hue and depth lines; mine doesnt. dont know how to do it, i'm afraid.
Craig Mark, that's beautiful!
Gave you a lot of work - but it was well worth it.
(I thought my Art-History Pointillize brush was a bit complicated - but you beat me there)
Rô DannyRaphael 06-12-2005, 07:46 AM i took another shot at it... CraigVery creative, Craig. Great effect you achieved here. Kraellin 06-12-2005, 09:11 AM danny,
i have to kind of chuckle here a bit. this wasnt the look i was going for, but thanks :) it was a 'best attempt' at achieving a look i had remembered seeing in an actual painting a long time ago. the painting was one of those where the paint itself is very thick, but age and no care has cracked it. think of the side of an old clapboard house with 20 coats of paint that hasnt been painted in 20 years and you'd have roughly what i'm looking for.
this particular attempt involved several layers, each with a different application of 'brushstrokes' in Paint Shop Pro and another of 'fine leather' for the cracking. some other things were tried, but i think those were the things i ended up using. i also had to double the file size after doing this so that you could see the effect up close.
Craig Steve Conway 06-12-2005, 09:25 AM Craig, the problem for me is when I apply the cracks after the impasto, the impasto tends to be dimished. I tried re-doing the impasto on another layer over the cracks, but still not enough of it shows through.
Also you are right that the cracks would tend to follow the thick lines of the impasto paint application. That may have to be painted in to look exactly like what you are trying to achieve.
Steve
steve,
i took another shot at it. this is only sort of what i wanted, but another look at it. my 'impasto' tends to go outside the lines too much, but does give some depth. the cracking would also tend to follow the hue and depth lines; mine doesnt. dont know how to do it, i'm afraid.
Craig Kraellin 06-12-2005, 10:14 AM steve,
yup, i had the same problem. i ended up with 3 different layers of brushstrokes/impasto and the one layer of fine leather for the cracking. even with rearranging the order of the layers and changing opacities, it was still quite difficult to get the desired result. and one additional problem i had, which could prolly be cured with masking, is that i wanted the strokes to be inside each object within the overal image. like, give a fairly smooth edge to the outline of each woman, but have the full impasto effect within and on each woman's face.
and yes, you may be correct; it may have to be done by hand painting. i'll play around some more with it. maybe some edge enhance or erode or some of those edge finding tools would help.
thanks for the effort, steve. you came REAL close and gave me some ideas and inspiration. and thinking on all this as i write this post, it may be possible to simply make a custom texture myself and apply it to that image. hmmmm.....
Craig raniday 06-22-2005, 05:12 PM Too many fabulous paintings to name them all, but since I'm posting right beneath Judi, I'll say LOVE YOUR COLORS!
And here's mine, started off w/ Art History Brushes, then to Painter IX where I mainly used the Funky Chunky brush, then back to Photoshop for Trimoon's canvas texture. .........started off w/ Art History Brushes, then to Painter IX
I've seen this mentioned before - and it always ends up as a beautiful rendition. What sort of Art History Brush do you use?
Rô raniday 06-23-2005, 05:26 AM Thanks, Ro. My favorite Art History brushes are Impressionist, Oil Sketch & Champagne. Swampy 06-23-2005, 01:38 PM Don't think so, Craig. I've never seen one
Lovely picture.. Here's my version.
A little Painter a little Photoshop My favorite Art History brushes are Impressionist, Oil Sketch & Champagne.Aha, now I found 'em. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I thought the CS2 Presets were going to be as useless as the 7.0 ones and had just thrown 'em all away.
Seems that this was NOT a good move!!
Rô Drach 06-25-2005, 10:16 AM Hmm.. how about that?
I used accented edges, charcoal and drybrush combined with different opacity for each layer.. DannyRaphael 06-25-2005, 12:51 PM Hmm.. how about that?
I used accented edges, charcoal and drybrush combined with different opacity for each layer..Nice results based on an uncomplicated combination of effects.
Well done. Kraellin 10-29-2005, 05:56 PM well, i sort of accidentally found something to give me the cracked paint look i was looking for....almost. it's not quite as heavy in paint as i'd like, but it's a good pattern for the cracking part.
Craig raniday 10-29-2005, 06:00 PM Craig, what is that texture? I like it a lot, though it's a bit overpowering on this particular picture of these fair skinned ladies. Nanls 10-29-2005, 07:29 PM Draganizer effect toned down a little. I should have darkend a little more back behind her hair... hmmm.
~Nancy~ Nanls 10-29-2005, 08:01 PM Another one. three layers, top layer DS crakle (mud - tweaked) blending mode, "overlay", second layer original, blending mode "luminosity" third layer, sketch/grungy b/w layer. Kraellin 10-29-2005, 08:26 PM catherine,
the texture is actually a 'pattern' from my Paint Shop Pro 9 folders. not sure if it came with psp 9 or if it's one i imported from somewhere. i've put a copy of it up at: http://www.mizus.com/kraellin/downloads/ not sure if you can use it since it has a pspimage extension, but there it is.
oh, and the reason the cracking is so heavy is that i did a little extra treatment to the picture to kind of highlight it and to make the painting look a bit dried out. one could certainly tone that down.
Craig Kraellin 10-29-2005, 08:29 PM nancy,
nice, on both counts.
i've heard Ro talking about this 'dragan' style and now you. what is it exactly? and that cracking effect really makes it look like the paint is about to fall off the canvas :)
Craig Nanls 10-29-2005, 08:53 PM Thank you Craig. Dragan is a style and I found a action for it a while back that you can really tweak. Can't remember where, but I would be more than happy to email it to you.
~Nancy~ Fluffbutt 10-30-2005, 01:11 AM I've got to admit that I've never really liked the dark moody style (especially for this image, with two lovely smiles in it).
Here's my attempts, one watercolours (Impressionist to get some lines, then PE with a waterwash efect, plus some screen/overlay/colour layers.), the other colour pencils (basic BW sketch, colour overlays, PE for some lines, another screen/colour overlay set).
<edit> Having seen the results in thumbnails, I think the first is nice, the cartoony one is rubbish. Cassidy 10-30-2005, 01:38 AM Lovely picture. Tried a dodge and burn grey layer, followed by a dark brown layer in overlay blending mode. Alcar 10-30-2005, 05:06 AM Impressionist style djroil24. Deepen the background to put emphasis on subject.
Alan raniday 10-30-2005, 05:29 AM Craig and Nancy, it's called the Andrzej Dragan Technique, and if you Google it, you'll find tons of info on how to achieve the look. It's very in right now :) raniday 10-30-2005, 05:30 AM Oh, almost forgot to thank you, Craig, for the zip file. I've downloaded it to my desk but haven't tried to install it in Paint Shop Pro yet. Kraellin 10-30-2005, 12:33 PM nancy,
thank you. i had sort of figured that, but nice to get a confirmation. and since catherine is now telling me to 'go look it up, you lazy bum' i'll let this drop ;)
and catherine,
you're welcome :) just make sure to put it in the patterns folder, not the textures, though i suppose it would work there also. i have a bunch of others as well and if i ever get a web site that i actually do something with, i'll probably post a bunch there. there are a ton of these things out there on the web and you can also make your own. if i remember correctly, you can make any image into a .bmp file and put it in 'patterns' or 'textures' and they'll work. at least you could in Paint Shop Pro 7. not sure if that still works with psp now using the .pspimage extension, but it shld.
and fluffbutt (boy, does that name conjur up a strange image!), doesnt look like rubbish to me :)
Craig raniday 10-30-2005, 07:43 PM :lmao: Craig, I would never call you a lazy bum!! :lmao: You seem like a very motivated kinda guy. PM me if you have any trouble finding those Dragan tuts. It seems you and I started looking for a believable crackled paint texture about the same time. I've found some very cool textures at this site
http://www.texturewarehouse.com/gallery/index.php Kraellin 10-30-2005, 08:44 PM cat,
Craig, I would never call you a lazy bum!! sorry, that was a tease as much at myself as it was towards you. i recently got in trouble by telling someone else to 'look it up!' the 'lazy bum' part was just for emphasis ;) and, i am motivated here. it's the chores at home where i get lazy :)
yes, the cracked paint effect was one we worked on in this thread for a while. i was never quite satisfied. i had a pretty specific look in mind i wanted to get to and never quite did. this newly found 'cracked paint' pattern comes very close and with a bit of tweaking it could possibly suffice.
as for the dragan style, the thread over at innographfx seemed to say it was primarily achieved through selective dodge and burn. an interesting style and i can see why folks are taking it up. quite dynamic.
and thank you for the link. i'm always looking for new textures and patterns and plugins. so, let me reciprocate: http://www.justkiss.com/psp/resources.htm you may already know of that one and if so, i can post another :)
Craig Fox54Black 10-31-2005, 01:09 AM What a neat thread, I had to give it a try too. Great picture for this kind of thing. :) Fox54Black, welcome to RetouchPRO, :bigthmb:
From your join date seems that you've been "lurking" some time now.
Very glad to see that you finally took the plunge!
The subtle cracked-paint effect came out real nice. How did you do that?
Rô Kraellin 10-31-2005, 06:56 AM welcome fox.
looks a lot like my cracked paint pattern, but a bit more subdued. like Ro, i'd be interested in knowing how you did it.
Craig DannyRaphael 10-31-2005, 07:51 AM Let me add my welcome, too, Fox. Glad you joined in on the fun. Steve Conway 10-31-2005, 08:07 AM Couldn't resist just one more try.
Ladies appearing to be from the late 1800's or early 1900's.....my favorite period in time.
Steve Fox54Black 10-31-2005, 11:48 AM Thanks everyone, I've actually been guilty of ignoring these forums for quite a while, but the wealth of recources in them is amazing. :happy:
I did it all in Paint Shop Pro 9. The cracked texture was a pattern called cracked paint that I think came with program, and I put it on a seperate layer in multiply mode and adjusted the opacity.
I also ran a paint script that didn't have enough texture, so I made a copy of the picture and ran the impressionist plugin on a paint setting. I then desaturated the picture and ran levels to bring out more texture, and then I saved it as .bmp and threw it in the Paint Shop Pro texture folder and used that texture on the painted image.
There is a good chance that I am the only one who understands what I just said. :lol: raniday 10-31-2005, 02:06 PM Fox, I understood every word you said, and I'll be looking for that texture in Paint Shop Pro, so many toys, I find something new in them everyday.
Is it just me? When I click on your painting above, I get a download screen!
Craig, thanks for the Link. I've saved it. I went looking through some old plugins that I haven't used in forever and came across Xenofex 1.0. I reinstalled it, and it has a pretty believable cracked paint texture.
Steve, that's a very cool look. Steve Conway 10-31-2005, 06:20 PM I thank you most kindly.
That is one of those that you find yourself tinkering with until you are reasonably satisfied. 8-)
Steve
Steve, that's a very cool look. Fox54Black 10-31-2005, 08:18 PM Is it just me? When I click on your painting above, I get a download screen!
It seems to work fine for me in Firefox, but if I load the page in Explorer, it gives me a download screen for some reason. I selected open, and it opened the picture in my picture viewer instead of the browser. It is kind of strange though, how it works differently in Firefox. :confused: raniday 10-31-2005, 09:07 PM That is one of those that you find yourself tinkering with until you are reasonably satisfied. 8-) Steve, sometimes the hard part for me is knowing when to quit! :)
Fox, I downloaded and installed Firefox a while back, but old habits die hard, and I'm back to using Internet Explorer. Haven't heard anybody mention having trouble bringing up your pic but me, so maybe it's a just a glitch with me. Kraellin 10-31-2005, 11:08 PM cat,
cool beans :) (re the texture)
Craig Haven't heard anybody mention having trouble bringing up your pic but me, so maybe it's a just a glitch with me.......No, cat, happened to me too! But only the first time I tried to view the attachment, ten minutes later it was OK. (using IE)
......and I'm back to using Internet Explorer...First time I've heard anybody going back! I'm forced to use IE here :tired: and I'm missing my tabs sooo much.
Rô Caitlin 11-01-2005, 03:47 AM Is it just me? When I click on your painting above, I get a download screen!
Same here. Seems to happen with just a few attachments occassionally. I'm asssuming they are in a slighly non-standard format and IE can't cope? Fluffbutt 11-21-2005, 06:35 AM Another attempt:
Trying to look like a early 1800's picture, but aged to now.
About 6 layers, most at 50%, 2 and 3 are Imp Watercolors, 4 and 5 are Virtual Painter's watercolour and embroidery. 6 is the original in a colour overlay mode (no tone down the VP's overblown effects).
Had to reduce it to fit the 100k limit. raniday 11-21-2005, 06:41 AM Trying to look like a early 1800's picture, but aged to now. Fluff, I think you achieved your goal! Great texture as well. How did you do the texture? Steve Conway 11-21-2005, 06:55 AM Funny that this image turned up on the forum again. I was playing with it again yesterday. So here is one of the manips I came up with.
Steve Fluffbutt 11-23-2005, 02:46 AM Fluff, I think you achieved your goal! Great texture as well. How did you do the texture?
It's sort of a cheat - photoshop's texturizer, tiny bit (2), but with a rough circular mask shielding the centre by 50%. Fluffbutt 11-25-2005, 07:21 AM Here's a new one for you. You'll NEVER guess how or where (what program) it was done it.
Go on, guess. I'll post the answer Saturday.
Hint - think very very laterally. LOL!
Added another, same technique.. GOLDCOIN 11-27-2005, 11:05 PM Seems again, late to the party... Fluffbutt 11-28-2005, 02:11 AM Seems again, late to the party...
But WELL worth the wait, its lovely!!!
By the way, the answer to my "what did I do it in" question above (which noone seemed interested in anyway, LOL) is...
AVISYNTH, a video editing tool, and a VirtualDub plugin run inside Avisynth. You import the jpg, Avisynth treats it exactly like a frame of video, does it's magic, and then you export the 'frame' as a new jpg. Janet Petty 11-28-2005, 07:04 AM Cool Fluff. I never would have guessed in a million years.
I like the middle eastern woman a lot.
Janet raniday 11-28-2005, 07:10 AM Carole, I really love that background, so much movement and great brush strokes.
(which noone seemed interested in anyway, LOL We're always interested, Fluff. There are just so many threads and great artwork, we don't always get around to saying so :)
(Hi Janet. You weren't there when I began posting :) ) Fluffbutt 11-29-2005, 03:19 AM We're always interested, Fluff. There are just so many threads and great artwork, we don't always get around to saying so :)
Hehehehe - I was joking!! i know you guys are nutters here and I know you're interested.. lkroll 01-29-2006, 01:16 AM Some saturation adjustments, Impressionist with Danny's djroil24 preset and size adjustment, Photoshop's Chrome set to 33% opacity on a separate layer (Center layer); also ran angled stroke on this layer. Top layer set to Overylay with adjusted opacity. Ported to GIMP and used GIMP's bumpmap filter for texture relief. This time, I used my Impressionist Thread preset with fixed angle to create the canvas texture, also copied the rendered photo (without canvas texture) as a mask for this layer so the darker colors with be opaque and the lighter colors will show canvas. I adjusted the opacity down to taste and flattened. Oils are getting too easy; this photo really made it easy. Thanks for the play. :) dkcoats 01-29-2006, 02:24 PM Performed a little rhinoplasty
h/s on teeth
Impressionist using a sort of, well, impressionist preset
Impressionist again with a slightly different preset
curves
hue/sat
Impressionist one more time
...and again just for a little canvas texture
dc pellepiano 02-13-2006, 05:15 PM Had a quick go for a old look. Photoshop 5.5, Dry Brush and some textures. Janet Petty 02-13-2006, 05:58 PM Nice job Pelle. I hope we see more in the near future.
Janet skydog 02-13-2006, 09:09 PM Thought I'd give it a shot... lkroll 02-14-2006, 05:57 PM Mouse and Dune Grass was my tools of choice. I did do some preprocessing including Impressionists Detailed Color Pencil with Placement set to stay on grid with pixels = 4. A pad would have made this a lot better and faster. :) Steve Conway 10-31-2006, 01:36 PM The two ladies from the past, back again.
Steve glikster 10-31-2006, 02:05 PM it really is almost a painting...
more impressionist work patriciakay 12-05-2006, 04:01 AM Liked this photo you found Ro
...So had a go at a water color in Painter....framed with an action in Photoshop...
All previous renditions are great...a pleasure to view!!!
Patricia.... :classic: You know, I find this quite amazing.
A photo-art thread with over a hundred posts. I won't count how many different renditions there are - more than fifty I'd guess.
Besides, of course, giving hearty thanks and congratulations to all who have posted (so far :wink: ), I think this shows that there are no limits to art.
If someday you're without much inspiration just wander through an art thread and you'll always find something new.
Great stuff EVERYONE! :bigthmb:
Rô pavel123 12-05-2006, 10:20 AM Patricia,
Great watercolor... fell so envious, for me I could never get a decent looking watercolor in Painter with so many watercolor brushes and settings available.
Pavel patriciakay 12-05-2006, 10:34 AM Thanks Pavel...
In actual fact i wasnt too sure about it...happy you liked it though...try the digital water color ones...I bet you will master them in no time... :nod:
Ro....
Its great that you can go back and just paint whatever you feel like...and then the thread gets a new lease of life...
Patricia.... :classic: | |