View Full Version : Problem Potpourri geezer 06-22-2005, 09:00 AM I would certainly appreciate some direction with these photos. I am fairly new to Photoshop (using CS2) and could probably find a tutorial if I knew how to articulate the problem. Alas, I don't. The one of the lady in church was taken on a new digital camera. I would like some direction as to "recovering" this image (if it is even recoverable to any degree).
The young man with the purple stamp is my brother Sisay. It's the only photo of him as a young man in Ethiopia and I would like to know if it can be saved.
The next two are my aunt (my mothers' sister) who passed away several years ago. I would like to colourize them (I have been able to clean them up fairly well) but am somewhat baffled by tutorials and books which assume that I am far more adept than I really am. Any assistance would be immensely appreciated. Welcome to RetouchPRO :bigthmb:
I'm sure somebody will be along soon with a whole list of links to help out (otherwise, I will when I get back from lunch)...
In the meantime, could you post a bigger image of the "blurred" lady in the church?
Rô Gary Richardson 06-22-2005, 09:56 AM Hi,
Welcome to RP. Had a quick go with the picture of your brother. Unfortunately the stamp went straight through his eyes, so I was unable to do a very good job there. Otherwise it was just a case of cloning and patching. Also a little contrast adjustment with levels and a little sharpening.
It may be possible to superimpose eyes onto the picture, but with a face you know so well, it will be difficult to do without changing his look. I've probably already done that by cloning. As you know his face, it should be easier for you to get it right. rondon 06-22-2005, 06:47 PM Hi
This is just meant as a way to start..
if you open the channel window and delete red and green the blue channel looks better (because the stain is blue).
I then duplicated the Layer then set the new layer to the multiply mode..
because it was then too dark I lowered the opacity of the layer... both of those things in the layers window.
at some point I changed the photo to greyscale then back to RGB... i'm not sure if that was neccessary though.
anyhow then I flattened the image..
I hope you get lots of advice.. and enjoy the experience
RonDon geezer 06-22-2005, 09:07 PM Thank you all so very much for your timely assistance. I was certainly overwhelmed that such a response was forthcoming. Here is a larger copy of the Greek lady. Thanks again. Flora 06-23-2005, 01:47 PM Hi geezer,
Welcome to RP! :pleased:
I tried the 'Greek Lady', but got no acceptable results .... Unfortunately it's very, very blurred (a lot of duplications) ... and I'm afraid nothing really works when the blurring is so extreme ....
One question .... could you please, post a bigger size of your aunt's pictures as well? .... They are very small and this makes working on them difficult :o:
Just follow the second link under my signature if you are not sure about size and resolution... Kraellin 06-23-2005, 02:34 PM i gave the lady in church a shot. ran this about 5 times with some of the rendering times running over 8 minutes. it's pretty severely blurred....camera shake, but i improved it a bit.
Craig Kraellin 06-23-2005, 03:49 PM i also tried this one. this is strictly clone, push and some fine brush work around the eyes. there's prolly an easier way in photoshop; i'm using paint shop pro 7.xx.
Craig geezer 06-27-2005, 09:15 AM A note of thanks to everybody who was not only kind enough to give it a go but whose mini-tutorials are now printed in my burgeoning Photoshop notebook. Flora...here are to pictures of my aunt which you requested. The tutorial on how to have Photoshop do all of the size alteration worked quite well. To Gary, Ro, rondon and Kraellin, my deepest appreciation. I had some success with following your various hints and will send them in the next reply. At the moment, I do believe that my grandchildren are commencing with some type of revolt and so I shall return within the hour. nebgranny 06-27-2005, 11:52 AM Hi Geezer:
Welcome to the forum. I am new to photoshop myself. Just purchased CS2. I hardly know the program myself so can not help with the pictures, but if you stick around long enough you will learn a lot and the people here are so kind and helpful, not to say patient with questions and requests for help from a granny...ME.
Which brings me to this...My grands come over often and they offer some "fine" times here too, aren't they grand!! LOL I just wanted to let you know I have this in common with you and hope you got the gang settled before the revolt broke out!! Good luck with your learning experience . Nebgranny
Sending :rambo: to help you with the grands..LOL Flora 06-28-2005, 05:03 AM Hi,
... had a go at colorizing ... I'm not sure if the colours I used are right ... greatguy 07-01-2005, 09:08 PM Well, here is my attempt, a lot of clone, healing brush work. I didn't like the hair, in the low res photo it lacked any texture and really looked splochy when touched up. I used the short afro Nagle brush to redo the hair. I also redid the eyebrows darkened his skin, and created some shadow to the left face. I hope you don't mind the "artistic" liberty.
Bruce krishna 07-02-2005, 12:19 PM I was trying my luck on this photo in a software called Cadet, which has the deconvolve (deblurring) option. While experimenting with various other commands, I clicked on the exponential option in 'Set background and range command'. And got this result. I don't know how it works, but definitely I could make out some features of the old lady. The command works in colour too. Flora 07-02-2005, 12:32 PM Hi krishna,
wow ... that really could make a difference in extremely blurred pictures!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: .... Flora 07-02-2005, 12:35 PM Hi greatguy,
Welcome to RP! :pleased:
More like a painting but a nice clean job! :thumbsup: Cameraken 07-02-2005, 01:11 PM Krishna
Looks like you found another little Gem
I found Cadet. Its for free Here.
http://www.terra.es/personal2/oscarcj/introeng.htm
Downloading it now.
Ken krishna 07-03-2005, 02:16 AM I found Cadet. Its for free Here.
There are quite a few softwares in the image processing category, Ken. Certain tools might come in handy in case of pictures like this.
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Krishna Caitlin 07-03-2005, 02:35 AM Krishna
Looks like you found another little Gem
I found Cadet. Its for free Here.
http://www.terra.es/personal2/oscarcj/introeng.htm
Downloading it now.
KenHmm... I get a message - "Your current security settings will not allow you to download this file'. Never got that before! Gary Richardson 07-03-2005, 07:55 AM Hi Caitlin,
What browser are you using.
If Firefox, make sure you have javascript enabled. Tools/Options/web features. Can have the odd problem if this is disabled.
If IE, check the site has not been added to your secure sites in some way. Tools/Internet Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites.
Or that file download hasn't been disabled in your Internet settings.
Tools/Internet Options/Security/Internet/Custom Level then scroll down and check File download is set to enable.
Hope this helps. Cameraken 07-03-2005, 08:08 AM Caitlin
Goto
http://www.terra.es/personal2/oscarcj/introeng.htm
At the top left of the page it says download. Right click this as then save target as
If you get a message saying
To help protect your security,IE blocked this site from downloading – Click here for options
Then Click at the top of your browser where it says click here for options and then click allow.
You should then be downloading cadet.zip.
I have checked this file for virus and it is OK. You will need WinRar to extract the program.
Krishna.
I tried following your instructions but
“I clicked on the exponential option in 'Set background and range command'”
Open Cadet 1.70
File > Open > Old Lady at Easter
Image > Deconvolve __ Set reference star???
Edit > Select as PSF of Alignment Star ???
I can’t find a exponential option anywhere?
Whats a Chi Square?
Ken krishna 07-03-2005, 09:40 AM Caitlin
Whats a Chi Square?
Ken
Ken, its the histogram command under the Image menu. Or you can click on the histogram button in the toolbar (12th from left).
About the Chi Square and all I don't understand a word of it. But sometime back I had tried using the deconvolve option and it worked fine. But some recent cases were total failures.
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Krishna Kraellin 07-03-2005, 01:38 PM ken reminded me that i hadnt posted the process/program i used to get what i got on the woman in church. i'm pretty sure it was the program Unshake. this is a stand-alone program for helping to remove images taken with camera shake and severe blur. there is another one out there like this, that is experimental, but i cant seem to find it on my harddrive at the moment.
also, krishna reminded me of another idea, convolving. harry's filters (plugin) has just such a filter/process. it's in the 'Other' section and has both a convolver and convolver pro filter. i ran a number of passes and settings and got several different results, but this one seems to be pretty good. bear in mind that i also did a little cloning to remove small parts of damage before and after making some passes with convolver pro. i also didnt try to do anything with her hand, just the head.
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