View Full Version : Animations, Morphs, Composites and Slide Shows


Kraellin
01-29-2006, 11:51 AM
there is no forum or sub-forum for animations, morphs and composites; at least not as an individual theme. we see a few of these in various threads and i've even posted an animation or two here and there. but it might be nice to have a (sub) forum dedicated to this. we dont see a lot of these; animations and the like can be time consuming to do. and, not everyone is interested nor does everyone have the software necessary to do them.

i use animation shop 3, originally from jasc (of paint shop pro fame, now corel), and it works quite nicely to produce .gif type animations, but again, it can be QUITE a bit more work than just a single frame image.

i also just recently installed (have had it on the drive for a while), and tried, meesoft's 'smart morph'. this is one amazing program! it was simple to install and simple to use. i did have to read the tutorial to get going, but after that it was a piece of cake. the guy(s) at meesoft is(are) really quite good.

the native save extension is .smo. i saved my work in that, but i also saved it in .gif. this was so i could edit and compress it in animation shop (AS). AS has a very nice means of optimizing the file size, and more than one way to do it if you cut the image sizes down to start with.

the posted animation started as an 11 meg file. it had about 45 frames in it and looped front to back and back to front. in other words, it morphed both ways. in animation shop, because of the 11 meg size, i eliminated the back to front morph. i also trimmed the image sizes down to 25% of the original. i then used the optimization wizard to trim the file size down to roughly 280k. now, that's a LOT of trimming... 11 megs to 280k. hopefully, when i post this it will still retain enough quality to be worth watching.

the animation address is: *removed by request by author* *one image contained a copyrighted image*

i'm also posting one frame of the original animation as a single shot. *also removed*

so, to danny, would having a dedicated (sub) forum be warranted here or not?

craig

Kraellin
01-31-2006, 12:18 PM
this is one i did quite a while back using Macromedia's studio mx. i just had the trial version and therefore access to it for only 30 days, or something like that, so, it's not very refined. the learning curve is a bit steep there :) nonetheless, it's fun stuff to work with.

the file is now located on my own web server and may not always be accessible, since my machine isnt always running currently. just try again later if that's the case. click here (http://65.5.254.8:8080/ToMarilyn1-k-1t.swf)

warning! there is a bit of nudity in this, so those that might find this offensive dont click. and if the moderators find this at all objectionable, let me know by pm, please, and i'll remove it.

craig

Kraellin
01-31-2006, 12:41 PM
alright, here's the full version of the woman to cat morph. this is a LARGE file, so those with slow connections beware. it's in the .avi format and shld play with windows media player, if that's your default player for .avi's. otherwise it shld play in whatever is your default.

this one is also on my home server, so may not always be accessible. just try again later.

*removed by request* *one image in the morph was a copyrighted image*

if the image is jumpy, not smoothly showing the morph, just download it instead of trying to play it directly as a streaming video and it shld be fine.

craig

palms1
02-01-2006, 02:36 AM
Craig
just to let you know i am trying to view this but so far i am having no luck but will keep on trying

Palms

Kraellin
02-01-2006, 04:36 AM
palms,

which one wouldnt load or access? on the last one, the big woman-cat one, if you wish to load and run it, when the window comes up and asks you how you want to handle the file, pick the option of 'open with default application' or whatever your browser says that's close to that. you may have to wait while it downloads to your application before anything will happen. it's a BIG file, 36 megs or so, so give it some time. but i've chcked it several times and it does seem to work.

if, when you clicki it, you dont get any window or box that comes up, then either the route is down to my machine, the machine itself is down, or there's something going on on your end.

also, if my machine is off or in the process of rebooting, or i suppose even under heavy load at the time, it wont work.

i have checked each of the 'click here' buttons and the links are right. they do work. so, other than that, i was probably down for the night or rebooting. i did reboot once yesterday. if you have any more problems with it, do let me know.

craig

palms1
02-01-2006, 12:56 PM
HI Craig
just to let you know i got there on both of them ( probably didn't give them enough time as it didn't look as if anything was going on ! ! !)
Miss Monroe i thought was good especially with the choice of music. And the morphing was way cool,
I did dabble a bit with the animation in Paint Shop Pro when i was running it but didn't really have the patience.
Any way well done

Palms

Kraellin
02-01-2006, 09:05 PM
thanks palms :)

yes, animation takes a lot more work than a single image. same with flash stuff. the music is from the computer game, "Morrowwind". quite amazing music in games sometimes.

now that i've got this server i may post the full size animations i've done here on retouch that i had to compress quite a bit.

craig

Cameraken
02-07-2006, 10:01 AM
Hi Craig.

These are great. Well done.

I am thinking of setting up my own server like you have done. I have a registered name but as yet no web space to point it to.
Could I point this name to my own PC?
Are you still using Abyss Web Server as you mentioned in another thread?
Do I need anything else?
Would you recommend a separate PC? Or can I use part of my hard drive?
If I can use part of my drive then how safe would the rest of my PC be?

Ken

Kraellin
02-07-2006, 12:29 PM
ken,

thanks :)

re your first question, i'm no expert on domain names and dns lookups, but i believe if your name is a registered name you can set up the server and have it recognize your domain name and thus any dns lookup will point to your server and find it. as to the specifics on just how to do this, i'm not really sure, but it shld be in the docs that come with the software.

yes, i'm using Abyss Web Server for windows xp. it installs very simply, has a decently simple interface and was fairly easy to set up and get going. i did have one small issue with my router which i had to figure out and fix, but other than that, it installed and ran pretty easily. if you do have a hardware router and a software firewall you'll need to configure each to allow the server to be seen and utilized. one nice thing about the software is that a person entering your server is not really ON the server, they can ONLY access and read. so, security seems to be their top concern.

yes, i would recommend a dedicated computer for the server, if possible. this just adds another layer of security for the most part. you can then just put on the server what you dont mind losing (or have a backup for). the old adage about no lock is pick-proof applies here. the Abyss software seems fairly secure, but again, i'm no expert and we all know by now that vulnerabilities can exist and thus be exploited, so caveat emptor applies here.

if you have a lan set up, this might be the ideal solution for the server. set up one machine on the lan as the Abyss web server. set up your other(s) for file sharing so that you can transfer files easily between all computers. done through a router, this would be fairly safe. done with a cross-over cable, i'm not sure, as i've never done a lan that way.

if you dont have a second computer, Abyss works like any web page system. you put your index.html (htm) file in the appropriate spot provided by the software and hopefully no one can hack from there to anywhere else. so, yes, you could set up a dedicated partition, for example and put the software and subsequent web pages on that partition.

what you really want to know is how safe is this thing. in all honesty, i cant answer that accurately. i feel relatively safe using it. when i read the docs and their web site i felt safe enough to install it and use it and that's about the best i can answer. they point out that it's a read-only type system. i'm sure one could get scripts for ftp and other web services and that might make it less safe. they also have anti-leeching built in, which is good. there is also an anti-hacking feature built in, but i havent explored that much yet. it seems to be built on number of failed attempts to log in. if a dedicated hacker really wanted to get into my system, i'm fairly sure it could be done. routers, firewalls, and so on can all be breached by someone that knows how and is really persistent. there are password crackers out there that just endlessly try to crack systems. given enough time, any system can be cracked. so, the best solution for a home based server is probably one that even if they got in, so what? if there's nothing there to steal, wreck, alter or otherwise mess with, they gain nothing. so yes, a dedicated machine, not tied to a lan, is isolated from anything else, with a hardware router/firewall combination and a software firewall, would be the ideal solution here. put nothing on it you cant afford to lose and do FULL backups daily.

i've set up a dedicated server once or twice before, usually game servers. i've not had any problems with hacking. hackers are basically like thieves and muggers; they generally want easy targets or BIG prizes. a router/firewall and software firewall make you not in the easy category. if your router or firewall can also make you semi-invisible, that's another step. and if you have no real prize on your server, then that's yet another step. use really oddball passwords with odd characters in them if possible. make them long and a combination of alphabetic, numerical and oddball characters. this will prevent most auto-crackers from getting in or at least make the task so formidable that it would take trillions of attempts.

oh, one last thing i just thought of on the Abyss server. it also has a built in anti-denial of service feature when someone tries to spam you to death. it simply blocks that address from even coming in any more. so, like i said earlier, it seems fairly safe. they (Abyss) seems fairly aware of and concerned with security and that's always the first consideration.

and one last item of note. i'm using the free version. they do have a pro version. the free version is limited to one domain name or address. so, if you had a retouching site and a personal home site and you wanted both on your own machine, the free version would require that you had a main page and then from there you could link out to both the retouch and personal, where the pro version you could set up both separately without a main page as a header to both.

so far (knock on wood) i've been quite happy with Abyss. it's fairly simple and not as full featured as some, but as a starter server and being free, it currently serves my needs quite well.

if you have any more questions on Abyss, i'll try and answer them. one of the ways i "pay" for freebies is by helping to support and advertise them, so let me know if i can help.

craig

Cameraken
02-07-2006, 06:41 PM
Hi Craig.

Thanks for your detailed reply Craig.

I will definitely have a go at this. I have a (few) spare PC’s but they are quite old and may not be up to XP. Most are running Win98 or ME. Did you say that Abyss is XP only?

One thing that did concern me was that your IP address shows in your links. I did try to ‘get in’ but I couldn’t get past your index page. But I would not really know how to go about getting further.

So I’ll try and get something running. It seems to me too make a lot of sense to have your own server rather than paying for web space.
I know there is free web space but from what I have read it is unreliable or full of ads.


Ken

Kraellin
02-07-2006, 11:32 PM
ken,

here's the link to their site: http://www.aprelium.com/

in their overview page, all i could find about suuport for the various versions of windows is that they say it works on a windows machine. they didnt specify 98, me, xp, 2k or any other version.... just 'windows'. but, since it also works on other os'es, like linux and freebsd, i would assume almost any version of windows.... but that's just an assumption, so i dont know for sure.

my ip number shows because i dont have a domain name, just a dedicated ip number. and, it really doesnt matter; any domain name can be looked up for the numeric address.

yeah, i couldnt really see paying for a remote site either. i've had too many friends who've had the remote site go down and then what? you cant do anything about it if you cant log in. i also have extra computers, but i usually only have one going at a time. with this system i could easily set up a dedicated machine that's on all the time. since i'm currently just experimenting with this, i just take it down each night when i log off. eventually, i'll probably leave it up all the time.

another advantage to this is building the actual web site. it's just SO much easier to move files around on my own machine than have to ftp them to a remote site, test them, and do the whole thing again. with this, i can just edit and save as and it's done. hardly any interruption to service and no hassle with ftp and so on. i've already begun reworking my stuff. very easy :)

there's also another nice feature you can do. if you have a hardware router, you can plug both machines into the router but not set up a lan. this keeps the machines isolated, but you can still do file sends across the internet if you know how. i tend to prefer the lan; it just makes things a bit easier, but the non-lan is a tiny bit more secure. actually, you could probably just send the files through the router, but i havent gotten that far yet ;) i'm still learning this stuff.

also, i dont know how much experience you have with site building, but if you're a novice like me, mozilla (the browser) has a very nice, simple, but decently powerful, 'Composer' built in. i really dont want to have to learn html, asp, cgi, php and all that stuff and more than i have to. i just want simple, fast, and let's concentrate on photo stuff, not site stuff. so, i can recommend their 'Composer' program for fast and simple.

let me know how it goes.

craig

Kraellin
02-11-2006, 09:50 PM
apparently my server has been down. well, actually, the server has been up but the router went a little nuts. i'm not sure if this was from the Abyss server messing with something or what, but i had to take the router off the passthrough and then bellsouth went down a couple times here recently as well...hopefully not from all my screwing around :)

at any rate, i did manage to have the server checked by someone else from a remote connection to me and it seems to be working now. however, if a few folks from here could click on a couple of the links in the above thread and post their results, i'd appreciate it. i'm particularly interested in checking the web server pages: http://65.5.254.8:8080 . just let me know if you can see the main page there. it shld show a background flower picture and have some text on the main page saying, "Craig's Place" and then below that, "Enter". the person checking this for me couldnt see the background picture, but that might be local to him, so i'd like to double check this with some hits from here.

i'd do this myself, but you cant ring up your own address from your own address, so all i get when i try is 'connection timed out'. i can check it internally, but that doesnt show me the pass through, which is what i need to have verified.

craig

Cameraken
02-12-2006, 03:26 AM
The connection has timed out
The server at 65.5.254.8 is taking too long to respond.

* The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
moments.

* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.

* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

Ken

Kraellin
02-12-2006, 10:27 AM
thanks ken. something still seems to be amiss here.

craig

Nanls
02-12-2006, 02:36 PM
Well craig this isn't anything as cool or complicated as the files you create, but since the heading on the tread is Animations, Morphs, Composites and "Slideshows," I thought this might fit here, if not feel free to move it.

Yesterday I posted a tutorial on how photoshop could automate an online proof gallery - no html knowledge required located here:http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12810

Here is yet another way Photoshop can help you to safely provide proofs to you clients by automating a PDF slideshow, with transitions and password protection. It only takes a few minutes and your slideshow is ready to email to you client. Here we go:



1. In Photoshop, open all of the files you would like to present to you client. For the best presentation, the images should be the same dimensions.

2. File >Automate> PDF Presentation. You will be presented with a dialog box (see Image 1).

3. Source Files: Check the box "Add Open Files"

4. Output Options: select 'Presentation." If you would like to see the outcome when you are finished check the "View PDF after Saving" button.

5. Presentation Options: here you can choose how many seconds between slides and if you would like the presentation to loop.

6. Presentation Options: Transitions: Choose a transition between frames. I used the "Slide" in the example
7. Click on the "Save" button and you will be asked to name the file. Notice the file ends with .pdf

8. Now you are presented with another dialog box with a number of different options (see image 2). If you click on PDF Security "Security Settings" button, you will be presented with yet another dialog box that allows you to password protect this file (see image 3). You can choose to have the client provide a password of your choice just to view the file. You can also protect the file from someone printing, extracting or making changes to the file and different choices of accessibility are given depending upon which version you choose from the "Compatibility" pull-down menu... Pretty cool huh? Note that the printing restrictions are only applied when the file is opened in Acrobat.

When you are finished and save your file, you will be asked to verify the passwords (when applicable) you input into the PDF Security dialog box. When you are finished, if you selected "View PDF after Saving, and password protected the file, you will be asked to provide the password and your file will open in Acrobat. You can now email this file to you client.

I hope this was useful. Have fun

~Nancy~

____________________________________
www.fixthepixs.com
www.datepixs.com

Kraellin
02-12-2006, 02:45 PM
excellent, nancy. you have a working example somewhere we could see?

craig

Nanls
02-12-2006, 03:02 PM
excellent, nancy. you have a working example somewhere we could see?

craig
I do craig, but it isn't downloading correctly. I tested it and it is a slideshow, but when downloaded through a link on my site, it downloads though a view as a PDF with multiple pages.... argh... I don't have a clue why it does that. If you email the file it downloads as a slideshow...

Here is the link: http://www.fixthepixs.com/test_slideshow
The password to download the file is: RetouchPRO

Kraellin
02-12-2006, 03:39 PM
nancy,

i took a look at your link in mozilla and internet explorer. it loads the images in both exactly the same way. but, it does not run as an automated slide show in either. in fact, the operation is exactly the same in both, which surprises me. if i right click on any of the images i get a little popup menu with which to navigate the images and that's it. if i use the back button of the browser, it simply takes me back to the login page.

so, i dont know if that's how this is supposed to work or not, but it works the same in both mozilla and i.e.

craig

Nanls
02-12-2006, 10:11 PM
nancy,

i took a look at your link in mozilla and internet explorer. it loads the images in both exactly the same way. but, it does not run as an automated slide show in either. in fact, the operation is exactly the same in both, which surprises me. if i right click on any of the images i get a little popup menu with which to navigate the images and that's it. if i use the back button of the browser, it simply takes me back to the login page.

so, i dont know if that's how this is supposed to work or not, but it works the same in both mozilla and i.e.

craig
Thanks craig! I appriciate you taking the time to test the link. It is so weird, isn't it? I emailed the file to several people and it played as a slideshow. When you create the slideshow in Photoshop, the first dialog boxs gives you a choice of slideshow or multi-page document; I wonder if maybe it is a little quirky!
~Nancy~

Kraellin
02-13-2006, 12:53 PM
nancy,

with all the browser types now, the vagaries of net pages, and the vargaries of software at times, i'm surprised anything works :)

also, could you check my web page link and post your results for me? i think my firewall may be blocking this thing.

craig

Nanls
02-13-2006, 01:56 PM
[QUOTE=also, could you check my web page link and post your results for me? i think my firewall may be blocking this thing.

craig[/QUOTE]

Happy to. Where is the link? Never mind I just found it. back in a while.

Nancy

Nanls
02-13-2006, 02:06 PM
nancy,


also, could you check my web page link and post your results for me? i think my firewall may be blocking this thing.

craig
http://65.5.254.8/ wouldn't load in either Opera or Safari for mac. Connection closed by remote server

You tried to access the address http://65.5.254.8/, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
Make sure your Internet connection is active and check whether other applications that rely on the same connection are working.
Check that the setup of any Internet security software is correct and does not interfere with ordinary Web browsing.
If you are behind a firewall on a Local Area Network and think this may be causing problems, talk to your systems administrator.
Try pressing Alt+F12 on your keyboard and disabling proxy servers, unless you know that you are required to use a proxy to connect to "the Internet.
Reload the page.


Can you list the other links you would like tested?
~Nancy~

Kraellin
02-13-2006, 04:28 PM
nancy,

thank you for testing that. i also tested it from out at my dad's place. it wasnt working from there either. i fiddled around with it this afternoon and not quite sure what i did, but i think it's working now...i hope :)

craig

Nanls
02-13-2006, 06:56 PM
nancy,

thank you for testing that. i also tested it from out at my dad's place. it wasnt working from there either. i fiddled around with it this afternoon and not quite sure what i did, but i think it's working now...i hope :)

craig
Still isn't working here :sad:
~Nancy~

Kraellin
02-16-2006, 04:02 PM
ok, i've changed the port stuff a bit to allow this to work. i've had one person check it and i've also set up a proxy so that i can tell when it's working or not. seems to be fine now.

http://65.5.254.8:8080 that's the web page. i've changed the other links as well, the ones to the movies/animations. so, it shld be good to go now :)

thanks for the help, folks :)

craig

Cameraken
02-16-2006, 06:18 PM
Hi Craig.

The link in your last post take us to a page that says “Enter”
Pressing that takes us to a page that says “Restoration”
Pressing that takes us to a page that shows restored tintype pictures
The link in your post No12 is the same as above.

There are No flowers and No Craig’s plaice. Just the ‘Enter’ link to
http://65.5.254.8:8080/My_Universe.html

Your original link (post No.2) is now working
http://65.5.254.8:8080/ToMarilyn1-k-1t.swf


Ken

Kraellin
02-16-2006, 06:43 PM
thanks ken. that is most appreciated!

ok, let's see if i cant make this easier for folks to click.

http://65.5.254.8:8080 the web server

http://65.5.254.8:8080/The_Rose_5.wmv is the rose slide show.

http://65.5.254.8:8080/ToMarilyn1-k-1t.swf shld be the marilyn flash.

the first web page shld have a background of some blue flowers, large white words saying 'Craig's Place', and the word 'Enter'.

'Enter' takes you to a sort of table of contents pages with a background picture of the hubble deep space picture of galaxies, a small version (the original is like 52 megs or so). there shld be a listing of other pages on the left, one saying 'Restorations'. that's the only one that currently has any other links to it.

'Restorations' takes you to a third page on which shld be found a plain white background, the words 'Restorations', followed by 'Tintypes:', followed by 'Before' and 'After'. then, there shld be 3 sets of pictures. those are the befores and afters of the tintypes restored.

my friend tried this and got to the third page and could load everything but the first set of pictures. not sure why, but she just got the little red X there and couldnt right click and 'show picture'. she could, but it wouldnt display. so, not sure what's going on there. when i tried it through the proxy it all loaded for me, slowly, but it loaded.

and before i had all this trouble i had also tried this with Internet Explorer and it looks different than what my Mozilla shows. i composed this all from Mozilla's 'Composer', so I.E. may not like it.

obviously i'm quite new at this. so, all the feedback i can get is much appreciated. i know different browsers tend to see things differently, so not sure how to correct for that. that some of the pictures and backgrounds arent loading for some folks is a bit of a conundrum also. at the moment, i'm just glad i finally got the passthrough worked out, but i'll work on this more and, like i said, anyone that wishes to chime in, your help is most welcome!

the boondoggle that is networking has always been one of those things i've shied away from, but it would seem i'm going to have to actually learn something here if i want to proceed :)

craig