has anyone ever used the lyson or fotonic ink for the epson 1270.
looked at them at www.photofile-ink.com and say they are good.

Cippres
First I've ever heard of them. Where did you run accross these? If you use inks not recommended by Epson in your machine that could void any warranties you have on the machine so be careful. I would like to see an independent review site that gives a test rating on these inks. I'm curious but cautious at this point. Could be a good thing so I will keep up with this thread to see if others might have some experience with it.
DJ

I ran acroos an ad in the digtal capture magizine, two diffenent companies were offering the same products stating the same "good"thing about the inks. Can't remeber the other site, photofile-ink.com was the one giving the details on it though. I had never herad of these before either, They are saying they are permant, non fade inks.

I got to admit they look legit. Unfortunately they don't sell inks for my model Epson. I do notice they deal with the professional models though. I will have to read more on this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
DJ

Found this link from inkjetart.com http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/archival_inks/fotonic.html

that talks about the testing of the two inks.

I did notice that for the 1270 it requires a reset chip which is $25.00 and the ink is $20 per cart. I get the real thing now for $22 to $24, so it might not be a money saving effort after all.

Yeah, I did notice the prices of them as being about the same as what I can get my inks for too. But it's still interesting and maybe they have something better. Didn't know about the special chip though.
DJ

I have never used lyson ink, but I have used cartridges from mis and others. I used to have the epson 1200. The color compatibles were too variable but the blacks worked as well regardless of who made them. I still buy the blacks for about $3.00 each for the epson 480 (same cartridge). I use the 2000P now. The epson chips are easy to reset, but the ink is not supposed to fade for 200 years so I use only the epson for now. I wonder if anyone with a 2000P has used an archival ink other than epson. WC

I have the 2000P but it's still on warranty so I won't even consider using another kind of ink. I used compatibles on my Cannons and we kept having trouble with them. Don't know if it was the inks or not but I'm leary of trying anything other than Epson approved materials especially after paying so much for this machine.
DJ

I remember reading something (but where?) about the chips on the ink cartridges. I think there's a way to work around the chip, but I'm not sure how to do it. The 870 also has the chip on it. It's true about Epson's reluctance to provide the warranty services if a third party ink is used. But I wonder if they could really get away with that if they couldn't provide proof that a third party ink caused the printer to malfunction. There's no doubt that they want to sell their own ink, and putting a statement like that in their warranty could help assure them of ink sales. But would it stand up in a court of law?

Debbie,
You are not supposed to touch the chip when changing ink cartridges. It's located on the back side of the cartridge.

Ed

Thanks for the info Ed but being an electronic tech for 20 years I already knew that. :)
DJ

No simpathy here for Epson if another ink can replace their cartridges. I love their printers and scanners but they have done a real disservice to their customers, I am including myself, by changing suppliers of their ink. The new stuff from China is clearly inferior. When I talked to an Epson rep he said there is no difference. Wrong. My setup hasn't change but I was getting a clear difference in color and saturation.

The problem is solved for a while because I bought 10 of each black and color cartridges from Sam's, the last they had. By the time these are gone maybe I can afford a 2000.

Bob

Debbie,

One of the few times I knew what I was talking about, and you already knew the answer! :D

Ed

I have not refilled my epson stylus 2000p yet but I have considered it for the black using lyson. The easiest and cheapest way to reset the chip is to put a new cartridge in the printer to allow it to register full, and then replace it with a filled cartridge. I tried it just to see if if works and it does perfectly. If anyone is intereste, more information can be found at http://medlem.tripod.net.nu/chipreset/how.htm. This same technique seems to work on all the new epson chips. WC

A question-what is the chip your talking about? I first wrote"can I ask a dumb question" but since I have been around here long enough I know you all would say no question is dumb~ :)
Thanks!
p.s. I did try the link above and I got a "this page not available" I will try again later.

Sorry about the problem. Let me try again and I will check to make sure it is OK. About chipped epsons sets -- Epson has put little chips in its newer printers that seem to be designed to keep people from refilling them. This is probably because Epson makes more money on cartridges than on the printers. Older models like the 700 and 1200 did not present this problem. I order to refill newer printers the chip needs to be reset so that it thinks the cartridge is full. The link http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/chipreset/how.htm tells how to do this. I just visited the site so I know it is still operable. WC

I feel obligated to chime in here to say that, while I respect opinions to the contrary, I love the Epson chipped cartridges. They were one of the reasons I chose the 1270. They provide a valuable two-way communications link between the printer and computer that goes way beyond anything offered by any other system.

As for refilling and alternate vendors, there are lots of good reasons to use both, but saving money isn't one of them. If you're looking to shave a dime (or even a dollar) off your per-print cost you have something in mind other than providing the highest-quality work for your client.

Lyson has an excellent reputation, and offer some inks that have attributes unavailable from the original manufacturers. But the Epson 1270 system is just that...a system...and for straight-ahead printing it can't be beat (imho). There are other types of printing where other systems are more appropriate, but things like that should be taken into consideration before purchase, not shoehorned in afterwards.

Thank you so much for the explaination and the link worked great. Very interesting!