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1STLITE
11-22-2006, 08:09 AM
I think my system is having some issues. I have always been pretty good at figuring out what was going on with her, but right now I just don't have the time or the patience to figure out what it is I need to be doing to make things run more smoothly. I usually consult the folks at majorgeeks, but figured I'd just ask here - and ask Gary :wink: . I want to replace my system soon, but right now I can't. Last night it even shut down by itself, which really freaks me out.

Let me know what you need to know about it and I will tell you. I appreciate it very much. Right now Photoshop is so slow I can barely work at all, and I have ALOT to get done. I am about to cry - seriously.

Thank you so much!

Dawn

Kraellin
11-22-2006, 08:19 AM
just a quick reply before i go to work. it sounds a LOT like a drive going bad. make sure you have everything saved to backups! check windows explorer to see if all your drive letters are showing up and check bios to see if they are showing there also.

NancyJ
11-22-2006, 08:41 AM
When did the problems start - did you do anything just before they started?
Are you drives compressed (is the text blue instead of black in the folders list)
If its shutting down by itself check that you have 'automatic restarts' turned off and error loggin turned on in you my computer->properties->advanced-> system settings and startup (or something like that)
If those are on look for an event in the event manager at the time you shutdown and look for a minidump - these will contain vital debugging information

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 08:42 AM
They show up in explorer no problem. I can't remember how to get to the bios, so any help there appreciated. And thanks for scaring the crud outta me, Criag. lol - j/k, I appreciate the help.

I have an external Seagate drive that I use for storing photos, etc. I also use it as a scratch disk in Photoshop. IT is connected through firewire. I have always been able to get this machine to run really smoothly, and for the most part you would never know I only have 512 in ram. But over the last week or so this thing has just been running ridiculously slowly. I have trendmicro pc-cillin and it is updated and running as usual. I have not had problems with adware since using that and firefox, quite a while now. I just do not know where to go form here, since nothign seems to have gotten out of wack, at least not as far as my untrained brain can figure.

Last night when it shut down on me, I had just restarted (trying to see if it would speed up a bit - but it didn't, or at least barely did) and as soon as I opened firefox, and started tot type in an addy, it pop - screen went black and then the blue startup screen, and it restarted.

:bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

Jerryb
11-22-2006, 09:19 AM
hi,
There can be all sort of reasons for some of this issue you have and some of them is probably related to each other....

first, always a good idea to periodically backup your important files just on a routine bases ... you can never tell with pc's when they do fatal crash... with that said...
Now don't know what your it's systems stats are, and we don't know what some of the other issues you have... which maybe the actual causes... also don't if you have recently add/remove software/hardware at about the time your issues start! In general, when trouble shooting a system you want to know all the things that works right and allllll the issues with a system! and a little when problem started.

so for now... a lot of time some basic cleaning up of the system helps in many ways and maybe even cures.... and eliminate problems and help narrow down causes.. you may have already done some of these but I don't know.. if you have done them.. sorry... for being repetitive... smile

1. make sure you purge you internet cache and DEFRAG... that always helps in many ways.
2. of course do a antivirus and anti spyware scan.... malware can cause all sort of problems...!!!!
3. a important one... disable all needless programs that startup at windows boot .. go to you msconfig.exe>startup tab .. you can use these links to give guidelines on what to safetly disable....
http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html

http://www.devcar.com/computers/startups%20-%20full%20list.htm

note: disabling needless programs that startup at windows boot, does a few things..
a. it generally improves your overall system speed.
b. it regains some of your precious ram.
c. your system is more stable!!
bottom line everything work better, faster and smoother!

Now these are the basics, in my opinion that should be done...

if the issue still continues... I generally will look at some of the other programs that i keep for startups.... and see if one or two of them causing... and this is generally done by just turning them off temporally... and see what happens... for example... screen savers, firewalls, various virus/spyware scanners...

sooo.. do those things and things should be a lot better if not then need more info and then we start looking deeper into the system....

Oh by the way... I like your work I wish i was half as good as you are with photoshop....

one additional note: this link to a smartcomputing article... now it mentions some of the thing I have on startup but there a lot of other info init that might be valuable to you.......
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2F2006%2Fs1702%2F13s02%2F13s02%2Easp&articleid=29409&guid=860BE65DEFD940A8A2485DBF894AC3EF&searchtype=0&WordList=MANAGE+STARTUP+PROGRAMS&bJumpTo=True


I think my system is having some issues. I have always been pretty good at figuring out what was going on with her, but right now I just don't have the time or the patience to figure out what it is I need to be doing to make things run more smoothly. I usually consult the folks at majorgeeks, but figured I'd just ask here - and ask Gary :wink: . I want to replace my system soon, but right now I can't. Last night it even shut down by itself, which really freaks me out.

Let me know what you need to know about it and I will tell you. I appreciate it very much. Right now Photoshop is so slow I can barely work at all, and I have ALOT to get done. I am about to cry - seriously.

Thank you so much!

Dawn

T Paul
11-22-2006, 09:24 AM
I believe when things start getting slow it may be a hard drive about to go (of course also run defrag, checked for viruses and spyware as they can cause havic too). At least that is what I just went through and I am currently in the process of reinstalling and updating everything.

Until you get some real help try PC Pitstop (http://www.pcpitstop.com/default.asp) (free evaluation of your system).
It also has a free disk health scan. Also check with the manufacturer of your hard drive. They usually have a diagnostic utility you can download and run to check your drive's performance and health. Unfortunately for me, my results told me that my drive was failing.

Ziaphra
11-22-2006, 11:15 AM
Is your fan working because it can behave like that when it gets hot...

Gary Richardson
11-22-2006, 11:24 AM
Just a couple of things to add.

If you're worried that you may have picked up an infection, post a HJT log here and I'll have a look at it for you.

Create a new folder C:\HJT

Download HijackThis.exe (http://downloads.malwareremoval.com/HijackThis.exe) to this folder.

It is important you install it into this folder for the following reasons.

If you leave it on your desktop, backups can easily get deleted by accident.
If you put it in a Temp File, HJT and the backups may get deleted if we need to clear out your Temp Files as part of the cure.

Once it is located, Navigate to the folder using Windows Explorer or My Computer, and double click on HijackThis.exe.


Before your first scan, we need to check the configuration.

Click on the Config button in the bottom right hand corner and confirm the following are checked.

Make backups before fixing items.
Confirm fixing & ignoring of items (safe mode).
Include list of running processes in logfiles.

The other items should be unchecked.

Click the Back button to return to the Scan page.

Click on the Scan button, and wait for the scan to finish (this may take some time depending on the number of items in your log).

When finished the Scan button will turn to a Save Log button, click on this and save the log (by default to the same folder that HijackThis.exe is in).

To paste it into a Forum, do the following.

Navigate to your Hijack This folder.
Double click on the hijackthis.log file, a text document will now be open on your screen.
Click on Edit/ Select All, then Edit/Copy.
Open the Posting Screen on the Forum
Right click in the screen, and click on Paste. The text should now be in the message.
Press Submit.


(Sorry for the patronising tone and "baby" instructions, they're for use on forums where some of the users aren't too clued up).

Have you cleaned out your temp files lately? if they've built up you can have some really wierd effects.


Click Start > Run and type cleanmgr then click OK.
This will bring up the Disk Cleanup window.
Check the following entries.

Downloaded Program Files.
Temporary Internet Files.
Recycle Bin.
Temporary Files.

Click OK.
When a prompt pops up click Yes.


If you send me a HJT log I can check what's auto starting on your computer and recommend items that don't need to be run at startup (if any).

Did you get any error codes when it crashed? If so can you give details (the more detailed the better).

Lets have a look at the System log.

Right click My Computer, then click Manage.
This will bring up the Computer Management window.
Expand System Tools then click Event Viewer.
Double click System in the Right Hand pane.

Look for any Error indications (white cross on red background).
If found, double click the entry and an Event Property window will open.

We need details from that window, particularly the Event ID.

Kraellin
11-22-2006, 01:37 PM
dawn, sorry, but it really does sound like a drive going. my system would suddenly reboot too, just before the drive finally gave out completely. and it was slow as molasses near the end. as it gets worse, things will act even more erratically and you'll find yourself waiting for chkdsk to chk your drives and files are going to be lost. BACK UP NOW!

frankly, i hope i'm wrong, but you have the symtoms.

as for bios, you get into that by when you first turn the machine on, you hit the 'delete' key before it gets to windows booting up. do this as early in the process, after the POST (the POST is a very low level check of the bios and system and will often give a single little beep when done and is always the first thing your system does), just tap the 'delete' key until you get a message or bios actually comes up. READ THE NAVIGATION INSTRUCTIONS! within bios and dont change anything. you just want to see if the bios can still see the drive. if it's showing in windows, it can, but if it stops showing in windows, chances are it's not showing in the bios. i suppose you dont really have to do this. like i said, if it's showing in windows, then it's showing in the bios and most likely if it's not showing in windows then it's probably not showing in the bios. so, you can skip the whole bios thing probably. i just like the confirmation.

if it is the drive and it's your system drive (the one with Windows installed on it), you're in for a bit of a headache, i'm afraid. with the symptoms you're showing, it wont just be one partition on the drive; it will be the electronics or mechanics of the drive itself and will affect ALL partitions on that drive. so, make sure ALL partitions on that drive are backed up!!

if it's the system drive, you're going to have to get a new harddrive and install windows all over again. and that means you're going to lose your registry and have to install all your software again. and again, i really hope this isnt the case. but auto-rebooting and slow as molasses speeds point to one or two main and crititcal things, a drive going bad or too much heat in the system or both. if the drive bearings, for instance, are going bad or the platter is starting to freeze up, you're going to be generating more heat than normal and that's always a bad thing.

and i really hate being the bearer of doom and gloom, but i just went thru this myself.... with the exact same symptoms. and i know T just went thru this also, so i'd take her advice about getting the drive checked.

you might also check your system log files. right click on the 'my computer' icon and pick 'manage' to find your logs. look for a warning or error that talks about bad sectors or blocks on a drive or other problems with a particular drive. this can be something of a pre-warning that something is going wrong.

if your system is anything like mine, you've got maybe (?) a week before complete failure (and that's no guarantee), during which time things will get progressively worse. handle it now, if you can.

and all of this doesnt invalidate anything anyone else has suggested. however, i will say that you shld check your disk FIRST before doing a defrag in this instance. if the drive is going bad, a defrag will likely only make things worse. and do check for viruses and spyware. you might also do a registry cleaning. a very fat registry can slow things down and even cause reboots in rare instances, so you've a lot of things to check here. basically, backup everything now and then see if you cant isolate what is doing all this. just doing 'corrective' things blind is not always a good idea. figure out the nature of the problem and where it is coming from and THEN handle it accordingly.

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 03:07 PM
Thank you everybody. I was working as you all were posting with trying to do what I can to figure this out. I don't need a defrag, automatic restarts was turned on, so I turned it off, no viruses or spyware that I can find, although all I have run has been Pc-Cillin's virus and spyware scans, ran the cleanmgr (got rid of some crap, no change in performance)

I got no error reporting or pop-ups when the computer restarted at all, which is why it freaked me out so bad (along with the running slow thing). I have had it crash on occasion, and it was always something that Microsoft would pop up telling me it was some driver or another, and get updated, etc. Nothing like that this time.

In the event viewer, I have a crap load of stuff, but mostly just little blue i's in a balloon. There are quite a few yellow triangles with exclamation points in them. Most of them say they are from WinDefend. Which says something, to me at least, because I thought that was a program that started when Windows started, and it seems like there used to be an icon in the little task bar, but a good while back that icon disappeared. Every now and again, my computer will start to run like crazy, and it is always that program eating up every bit of power. I will cancel it and restart and usually take care of that - should I just do in and delete that program? Is that ok to do, or is that come junk that MS is requiring now?

There is an error on there from the 21st, Source:dhcp EventID:1000
Hmm- looking back there is one of them every day at least back to the 5th. Any idea what that's about? If I am understanding it right it is something to do with my internet connection, says it lost the lease to it's IP address.

Still, no error at the time of the crash.

I hope none of this sounds too dumb to any of you. I can usually figure stuff out myself, but I don't claim to know too much about this stuff. :o: Hope I don't sound like an idiot.

Where do I go form here, besides backing everything up?
Also, could it be the external drive that is the problem? Or when you say drive going bad you are pretty much talking about the internal hard drive, right? :o:

Thanks again, everyone!! :bow: :bow:
Dawn

Jerryb
11-22-2006, 03:53 PM
hi,
it sort of starting to look like that windows defender maybe the major culprit.

windows defender is designed to start at windows boot, it is a antispyware type program.!!

Normally you shouldn't have that many yellow triangles for any given day and since in this case they all deal with windows defender that strong case that is the culprit...

now the causes, could be one or several win defender files are corrupted or that section of the registry (dealing with defender) is corrupted, oooorrrr since you have penicillin and it sounds like it also run a antispyware scan.... could be a major conflict between the two!! ... so the very least I would do is either deactivate windows defender to where it not supposed to startup at boot or uninstall it...!! and then see if that helps your problem.!!

on the event id.... not really sure about it nor am savy about it.. smile however it sounds to me at first there was some sort of interruption with your isp and your system had a problem getting the address..... now i went and did some searching and i found this ink... look a the comments section...
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=1000&eventno=1921&source=Dhcp&phase=1

now also I am thinking that maybe this issues is being caused by your other issues with windows defender... or possibly another program


Thank you everybody. I was working as you all were posting with trying to do what I can to figure this out. I don't need a defrag, automatic restarts was turned on, so I turned it off, no viruses or spyware that I can find, although all I have run has been Pc-Cillin's virus and spyware scans, ran the cleanmgr (got rid of some crap, no change in performance)

I got no error reporting or pop-ups when the computer restarted at all, which is why it freaked me out so bad (along with the running slow thing). I have had it crash on occasion, and it was always something that Microsoft would pop up telling me it was some driver or another, and get updated, etc. Nothing like that this time.

In the event viewer, I have a crap load of stuff, but mostly just little blue i's in a balloon. There are quite a few yellow triangles with exclamation points in them. Most of them say they are from WinDefend. Which says something, to me at least, because I thought that was a program that started when Windows started, and it seems like there used to be an icon in the little task bar, but a good while back that icon disappeared. Every now and again, my computer will start to run like crazy, and it is always that program eating up every bit of power. I will cancel it and restart and usually take care of that - should I just do in and delete that program? Is that ok to do, or is that come junk that MS is requiring now?

There is an error on there from the 21st, Source:dhcp EventID:1000
Hmm- looking back there is one of them every day at least back to the 5th. Any idea what that's about? If I am understanding it right it is something to do with my internet connection, says it lost the lease to it's IP address.

Still, no error at the time of the crash.

I hope none of this sounds too dumb to any of you. I can usually figure stuff out myself, but I don't claim to know too much about this stuff. :o: Hope I don't sound like an idiot.

Where do I go form here, besides backing everything up?
Also, could it be the external drive that is the problem? Or when you say drive going bad you are pretty much talking about the internal hard drive, right? :o:

Thanks again, everyone!! :bow: :bow:
Dawn

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 03:58 PM
Yeah, I am really thinking it is WinDefend too. Been wondering what was going on with that but too busy to look into it.

Odd thing is, it is not listed in msconfig in startup. Not it or anything like or about it. I went to that site listing the stuff in startup, and nothing that is set to start has anything to do with that. I have always tried to keep the starup clean through msconfig, though.

Gonna go see if I can un-install it.

Gary Richardson
11-22-2006, 04:07 PM
Hi Dawn,

Windows Defender is an Anti-Spyware program from M$, if it's giving problems you can safely uninstall it using Add/Remove programs in Control Panel.

OK the EventID:1000 is unrelated to your problem, its related to DNS issues.

Despite your PC Cillin finding nothing, I wouldn't mind seeing a HJT log, might see something in there that's a possible source of conflicts.

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 04:15 PM
Thanks, Gary. Wasn't sure if you still felt that was necessary. I will get right on it. Back in a few.

BTW - I un-installed WinDefend through add/remove, etc. Restarted the computer just to see what would happen. This thing is taking forever to shut down and startup is just ridiculous - never used to be that way. After it was done starting up and rested a minute I clicked to start firefox, and it took it 25 seconds just to open that.

Oh I also forgot till just now that the other night when I shut down, I left the room. Came back 20 or 30 minutes later and it still had the blue screen saying Windows is shutting down... Dunno what that was about either.

Ok - off to get that HJT log. Back in a few.

Dawn

And again, Thank you Thank you THank you. Very Very much - :bow: :bow:

Jerryb
11-22-2006, 04:17 PM
hi again,
not all program will list themselves in msconfig.exe>startup... so it not surprising you don't see it there... sometimes the manufacturer don't want you to disable something.. smile....

however look in your services!!! it a different kind of group of startup programs....... M$ may consider it a service and not a normal startup program... you can go to services.msc for example some of my virus scanner software shows up in services and not startup

... also take a look at these services lists

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm
http://majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=12
http://www.yellowhead.com/xpcfg3.htm

Yeah, I am really thinking it is WinDefend too. Been wondering what was going on with that but too busy to look into it.

Odd thing is, it is not listed in msconfig in startup. Not it or anything like or about it. I went to that site listing the stuff in startup, and nothing that is set to start has anything to do with that. I have always tried to keep the starup clean through msconfig, though.

Gonna go see if I can un-install it.

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Gary - just paste it in here, or how do you want me to go about this?

Thanks, Gary. And thanks, Jerry.

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 04:35 PM
Well, I am gonna go ahead and post it here. I'd say it looks ok to me, but I am not really sure what i am looking at, at lesat not 100% - LOL.

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 5:21:17 PM, on 11/22/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\windows\system\hpsysdrv.exe
C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\S3apphk.exe
C:\WINDOWS\LTMSG.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\E_FATI9FA.EXE
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Internet Security 2006\pccguide.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WTablet\TabUserW.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\CDANTSRV.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\PcCtlCom.exe
C:\Program Files\Photodex\ProShowProducer\ScsiAccess.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Tablet.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\Tmntsrv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\tmproxy.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\TmPfw.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\HJT\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://us5.hpwis.com/
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = http://srch-us5.hpwis.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = 127.0.0.1
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Toolbar Helper - {02478D38-C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Acrobat 6.0\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! IE Services Button - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yiesrvc.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEToolbarHelper Class - {AE7CD045-E861-484f-8273-0445EE161910} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Acrobat 6.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &hp toolkit - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - C:\HP\EXPLOREBAR\HPTOOLKT.DLL
O3 - Toolbar: Adobe PDF - {47833539-D0C5-4125-9FA8-0819E2EAAC93} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Acrobat 6.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn\yt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [hpsysdrv] c:\windows\system\hpsysdrv.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KBD] C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Recguard] C:\WINDOWS\SMINST\RECGUARD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [dla] C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\System32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [S3apphk] S3apphk.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PS2] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ps2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LTMSG] LTMSG.exe 7
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [EPSON Stylus Photo R320 Series] C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\E_FATI9FA.EXE /P30 "EPSON Stylus Photo R320 Series" /O6 "USB002" /M "Stylus Photo R320"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [pccguide.exe] "C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Internet Security 2006\pccguide.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
O4 - Global Startup: TabUserW.exe.lnk = C:\WINDOWS\system32\WTablet\TabUserW.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycmap.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &SMS - file:///C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsms.htm
O9 - Extra button: Yahoo! Services - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yiesrvc.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O20 - Winlogon Notify: WgaLogon - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WgaLogon.dll
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AdobeVersionCue - Adobe Sytems - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Version Cue\service\VersionCue.exe
O23 - Service: C-DillaSrv - C-Dilla Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\CDANTSRV.EXE
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: iPodService - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: LightScribeService Direct Disc Labeling Service (LightScribeService) - Hewlett-Packard Company - C:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Central Control Component (PcCtlCom) - Trend Micro Incorporated. - C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\PcCtlCom.exe
O23 - Service: ScsiAccess - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Photodex\ProShowProducer\ScsiAccess.exe
O23 - Service: TabletService - Wacom Technology, Corp. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Tablet.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Real-time Service (Tmntsrv) - Trend Micro Incorporated. - C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\Tmntsrv.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Personal Firewall (TmPfw) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\TmPfw.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Proxy Service (tmproxy) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\TRENDM~1\INTERN~1\tmproxy.exe



ALSO - I ran a dish check, and nothing came up saying anything on the disk was bad. Dunno if that means anything really, but thought you all should know.

Dawn

1STLITE
11-22-2006, 04:56 PM
Hmm - I am thinking maybe it was the WinDefender program that was the problem. I am in Photoshop right now with a full size image and seems to be workign well.

Crossing everything here while I post this - lol.

Dawn

Thanks, Everyone!!

Oh - Gary - I used to have a program on here that cleaned up the registry (I think) I can't remember the name of it- which do you recommend, that's free - lol. Thanks so much!!!

Gary Richardson
11-23-2006, 01:24 AM
Hi Dawn,

Sorry I'm a bit late getting back to you, sleep kinda got in the way :D .

OK had a look through your log, and it's a squeaky clean as I've seen in a long while, certainly no indications there of anything that would cause the kind of problems you were having.

Nothing to remove in Startup that would significantly improve boot time, you run a pretty lean machine.

Does Trend Micro come with a Firewall, (can't keep up with which versions of which programmes do or don't)? If not you need one, the one that comes with Windows is rubbish.

If you need links for Freebies, look in the RetouchPro library (I think I've posted links there).

I see you've also got a HP (Hewlett Packard) toolbar installed, not Malicious, but it does report your browsing habits back to HP (not sure how detailed these are).

If you want to stop it running just run HJT and check this item.

O3 - Toolbar: &hp toolkit - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - C:\HP\EXPLOREBAR\HPTOOLKT.DLL

Close all open windows and click Fix Checked.

Doesn't remove the program, just removes the Registry entry that calls it up, so shouldn't have any knock on effects.

WinDefender is tied in to a lot of Kernel level processes and drivers, so if it had got corrupted it would have had some pretty fundamental effects on your system. It could well be that this was the cause of your problems.

However I'd still back things up just in case it's early signs of a Hardware (disk) problem.


OOPS, almost forgot.

Don't generally recommend using Registry Cleaners too much, as some of them can be a bit over zealous and cause more problems than they solve.

However if used cautiously they can occasionally be beneficial.

I use them only very, very, occasionally, and only after a lot of installs/uninstalls, and never until after I've created a Systems Restore point.

I've used the one below without problems. Not as "severe" as some, but creates backups and does give you a lot of control.

RegScrubXP (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2048)

CJ Swartz
11-23-2006, 09:42 AM
...
Don't generally recommend using Registry Cleaners too much, as some of them can be a bit over zealous and cause more problems than they solve.

However if used cautiously they can occasionally be beneficial.

I use them only very, very, occasionally, and only after a lot of installs/uninstalls, and never until after I've created a Systems Restore point.

I've used the one below without problems. Not as "severe" as some, but creates backups and does give you a lot of control.

RegScrubXP (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2048)

Well, Gary, I'm going to give RegScrubXP a try on your "say-so", in spite of your other post picturing yourself "wearing a red tin-foil fez to repel the hypnowaves sent by the government or aliens". I'm going to create a Systems Restore point first, but not because of the fez...

1STLITE
11-23-2006, 11:14 AM
Cool - thanks, Gary. Well, I think cool. Not too keen on hearing it still may be my drive. Is there any way to know if that is the case? I can't afford to get caught with this thing not working any time before Christmas. I guess it would not be toooo big of a deal if I have to replace it now, since I planned to get a new system after Christmas anyway.

Speaking of which, I think I am going to have one built. My brother does that kind of thing. It costs alot less that way usually,right? My big dilemna right now is I wonder if I should stick with AMD. I think as far as this computer I have now goes, I really lucked up with the AMD AthalonXP. From what I have read it operates better at higher temps than others, and I had no clue of this when I bought it. I really think that considering this environment any other processor would have burned up by now. I have also read that the Athalon Duo's (I think that's what they are called) run better overall than Pentium's. I'd love your thoughts on this.

I was thinking of switching to Mac, but I really don't think that is necessary, is it? Seriously - isn't it mostly just personal preference?

Thanks for everything, Gary and everyone! And Happy Thanksgiving!!

Dawn

Gary Richardson
11-23-2006, 01:37 PM
Hi Dawn,

Hardware's not really my field of expertise. If your brother's into building PCs he's probably much more clued up on processors than I am.

The only thing I would advise, is to get the best PSU (power supply unit) you can afford, as the stability of your power supply has more influence on the rest of your computer than you can imagine.

Particularly so if you're operating in a hot climate where the constant switching on and off of fans will put "shock" loads on it.

Choice of PC or Mac is always a personal one, and your usage and finances will dictate which is best for you. I'd say that generally you get more bang for your buck with a PC and spares are cheaper and easier to come by, on the other hand Macs have a good reputation for reliability and stability.

As for checking your disk, keep an eye on your system log (as described in my earlier post) and look for any errors connected to your disk. A disk on its way out will generally kick out a lot of errors. Don't get too paranoid about this, most disks kick out some errors even when they're working fine.

If you open the event properties box by double clicking the error, you will find a link to the Help and Support at M$ which may give you more info.

Kraellin
11-23-2006, 04:32 PM
dawn,

well, hopefully my fearmongering was all hot air with no substance. if your system now seems stable and faster after removing windefender, then it may well have gotten corrupted and if, like gary says, it was tied in closely to the kernal routines, then that would make sense. and since you lost your systray icon for it, that may well indicate, along with your now faster speed, that it was corrupted. so, that may be it.

and, as gary mentioned, keep an eye on the system logs. one or two errors dont mean much, but if you get a daily log entry of a drive showing errors, that would be a first sign. if the system reboots itself....and i do mean by itself; it's just sitting there idle and suddenly reboots, then that's a warning sign of a drive going bad. if you're doing something on the machine and it reboots, that's more a sign of poor software.

another sign of a drive going bad would be that when you boot up or reboot you start getting a lot of CHKDSK operations before the machine will boot into windows.

another sign would be if you start getting bios warnings/errors. you'll normally see those in the black and white text screens as you boot up.

every once in a while you might also check device manager and see if you have any yellow exclamation marks next to a device, regardless of if that device is a drive or not. (or any other mark next to a device).

you might also want to get a heat monitor. there are several decent ones and some free. i normally dont bother with these until i start getting unexplained, frequent error on my system. but they can be life savers.

diagnostic and informational programs are also a good idea. Sandra 2000 was a standard for a while... it's probably more like Sandra 2005 or 2006 by now, but that is pretty much the gold standard in system diagnostics. Belarc was a great free system informational program, but they've gone commercial now, so you'd have to pay for that one too. so, if you cant afford those, just the various windows dianostic/information programs can be used. and i'm sure there are other freebies out there. i just happen to be most familiar with those.

drives can go bad in various ways. the usual way is in the mechanical parts of the drive; a motor goes bad, the bearings wear out and so on. the next most common is the electronics, but this is a lot more rare. usually the mechanical will go first. another way is the heads or platter go bad. this is also fairly rare, though still fairly common on cd roms and dvd roms because the heads and patter are exposed where harddrives are sealed.

the mechanical failures are the real killers. this is because the drive is still there and to the bios and to windows, seems like it is working when it's not. and that's the source of the extra heat and errors. when something locks up, juice is still being applied and that causes heat. calls to the drive dont get acknowledged correctly because the drive cant spin, so you end up with tons of loops going on which is why your system slows down. the queues/stacks in the o/s dont get acknowledged and things bog down as a result. and this is why when someone says 'my system is extremely slow and is rebooting itself' i go, 'sounds like a drive going bad'.

one other way to check for bad drives is to run CHKDSK yourself. back up before doing so. if the drive is going bad you can lose data doing this. in fact, if the drive is going bad you probably will lose data. you can run a sort of quick CHKDSK from windows itself, though i was told once that it's more reliable to do this from dos (dont know if that's true or not for sure).

at any rate, if your system is now back to normal after doing the removal of windendender and not showing any other signs of trouble, then that was most likely the culprit and i'm glad :)

as for building your own or having one built, it used to be the case that there was a tremendous savings there, but now, prices have gone down so much that it's a bit of a toss-up and the margin is very close if not actually more economical to buy 'off the rack'. i still prefer custom rigs, mainly because i dont lock myself into proprietary hardware and there, mainly due to video cards. onboard graphics cards generally suck and that's often what you get in an ecomomical off-the-shelf rig. sometimes you cant even add your own card to bypass the onboard crap. another savings with custom rigs is that if you buy fairly much one type of computer, the ease of saving old parts to a new rig is better and that can cut down your costs when moving to a new machine. i saved several things in my last move. some things will transfer almost regardless, like cd roms and dvd roms, but ram and video cards not always. also, with custom rigs you pretty much know what you're getting. so, usually no big surprises.

amd vs intel is a toss-up. intels may have a slight edge in reliability and heat management, but amd's are usually the speed leaders (though you really have to read the fine print any more). amd's USED to be easier to overclock. not sure that's true any more. amd's used to be cheaper. that may have changed also.

dual-core processors are what's coming into vogue with quad-core coming pretty soon. the more cores, the faster the processing (up to a point, i would think). but for now, dual core is going to be faster than pentiums. it's also going to be more expensive and if all you're doing is photoshop, you dont need it. the current pentiums can handle Photoshop and the likes quite nicely. games are another matter. and, with pentiums now NOT on the cutting edge, you're going to get better bang for the buck there than with dual core.

macs are tempting, especially for 'multi-media' anything. they just do it better. and now that they are running windows stuff quite nicely and quite fast AND reliably, it's even more tempting. and i love their new television ads :) you WILL pay a higher initial cost and service and replacement is going to be more expensive. i cant really speak to reliability except that mac people tend to swear by mac. and i love the fact that mac takes risks and innovates, where intel/microsoft tend to not... especially microsoft.

so, this is an area you're going to have to study. my ideal would be a mac for my graphic/art work and a pc for internet and gaming and to be able to network them, mostly so i could transfer my graphic stuff to the internet.

so, how's that for bogging you down with information :)

Syd
11-23-2006, 10:26 PM
Gary I have been watching this thread with interest because my computer has been playing up of late as well, although, with the help of some of the advice in this thread I think it may be sorted out now. However, I still have a question. I opened my task manager just to see what programmes were running in the background and with the help of the excellent advice at Answers that work (http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm) I deleted quite a few unecessary ones and things (touch wood seem to be running a lot smoother now). However there are still one or two tasks that I am not sure about and that even Answers that work don't have any info on. One of them is a programme called Conime.exe .

I googled it and some said it could be a virus and some said that it was a legitimate Microsoft file. I went to the WINDOWS\system32 directory and there it was but how do I know it is the legitimate Microsoft programme running and not the virus. What is the purpose of this programme anyway? Is it because I don't have an English browser as one site suggested? Should I be alarmed. And how do I even go about deleting it. Everyone's advice in this thread has really been excellent.

Sincerely Syd

Kraellin
11-24-2006, 12:01 AM
syd,

i have it too. it's short for 'console ime' and is, i'm pretty sure, a microsoft file. i believe it works with the 'console.dll' file. if you really want to be sure, go to microsoft.com and do a search in the knowledge base or even on the entire site and you shld find something on it there.

Syd
11-24-2006, 01:06 AM
Thanks Craig I will go and check it out. I just got the impression from this site that there were quite a few viruses out there masquerading as legitimate files and this has got me a bit spooked. How is one ever able to tell the difference?

Syd

Gary Richardson
11-24-2006, 02:18 AM
First of all, to find out more about the file, browse to it and right click it.
Select Properties. A properties window will pop up with details of the file, click on the Version tab, if it is a legit Microsoft file it will say so.

If you're still worried about this particular file, check it out at Jottis or VirusTotal.


Go to VirusTotal (www.virustotal.com) or Jotti's (http://virusscan.jotti.org/), and scan the following file(s).

Conime.exe

Click on the Browse button at the top of the screen.
Browse to the file.
Click OK.
Click Send, and the file will upload to VirusTotal / Jotti, where it will be scanned by several anti-virus programmes.
After a while, a window will open, with details of what the scans found.
Note details of any viruses found.
Post me the details please.



How is one ever able to tell the difference?

File location is everything, Malware (Virus) files may have the same name, but are usually in a different location to the legit one (Windows does not allow 2 files of the same name in the same directory).

There are occasions when a virus will replace a file, but with system files this is a very difficult thing to do, so such occurencies are rare.

Syd
11-24-2006, 06:10 AM
Thanks Gary I will do as you suggest.

"File location is everything..." Yes, that is exactly what the Answers that Work site suggested. What I didn't know how to test was if the programme running in my Task Manager Window was from the Windows\system32 Directory or some other Directory (in which case it would definitely be a virus). But thanks Gary I will scan as you suggested and post the results.

Sincerely Syd

Gary Richardson
11-24-2006, 06:47 AM
Hi Syd,

If you've got a copy of HJT, there's a seperate process manager included with it that does show the file paths of the running processes.

Open HJT, click on Config.
Click on Misc Tools.
Click on Open process manager.

Now you can scan down the list of processes to find the one you want, the file path will be indicated.

If you haven't got a copy, one can be downloaded from http://downloads.malwareremoval.com/HijackThis.exe

CAUTION: HJT is a diagnostic tool, it must not be used to remove things unless you KNOW what you're doing. It is a very powerful programme, and in unskilled hands can make your computer into a very lovely paperweight in no time at all.

1STLITE
11-24-2006, 08:43 AM
Thanks Craig and Gary. I appreciate all the time you have put into helping me get this sorted out. You guys are awesome!

Whether to buy or build is something I will have to work out in the next couple months I guess. I may just go with a refurbished unit, and work from there.

Well, back to work for me. Thanks everyone!!

Syd - hope you get your issue sorted out. :wink:

Dawn

Gary Richardson
11-24-2006, 10:46 AM
Best of luck Dawn, whichever way you decide to go.

Glad we could help a little.

1STLITE
12-06-2006, 08:54 AM
Craig, Gary - anyone - I think I found the problem. I do believe that my Seagate external hard drive is going out or something. When I restarted the other day, before shutting down it said something about checking the drive. It said I could cancel the check but it was recommended I let it continue. I couldn't find a way to cancel it so it went ahead and ran. Since then I have kept it turned off unless I just HAD to access something on there. The time or two that I have had it on and Photoshop open I did realize that everything takes alot longer now in Photoshop. I use it as my scratch drive. So - here is the question -

If the drive is going bad is there anything at all I can do as far as getting it fixed? I have had it for 2 years this Christmas - is that a normal life span? Do you think that using it as scratch disk for Photoshop has caused this and is a bad idea to continue this setup? What do you think I should do about this - I can replace the drive, but honestly I was needing to add another one of them to the system anyway as this one is getting full. So I would really need to buy two of them or buy one larger one. Would it be better to buy two like this and use the empty one for scratch?

Yes, I really need a whole new system. But, I have decided to go Mac, so I will have to save up for that move. What should I do in the mean time, because I can't use Photoshop without having a scratch disk like I have been using the Seagate for (connected through firewire if you need to know).

Please, help. How can I fix this, hopefully for under $300??
I will be back later after I finish pulling my hair out. Thanks for any help on this!!

Dawn

Gary Richardson
12-06-2006, 09:09 AM
When you shut down, did you do a normal controlled shutdown, or did you crash your system (accidentally or otherwise)?

If power gets interrupted and your computer does an uncontrolled shutdown, it will always do a disk scan to ensure that there was no damage caused to the disk.

If however you did a normal controlled shutdown and it tries to do a disk check on start-up, then it may be a sign your drive is experiencing problems.

What did the disk check find?

Check connections to the disk, make sure there are no loose power couplings that may have caused a momentary power loss to it. (Make sure you are earthed when touching anything inside the casing, static charges can fry some of the more sensitive components).

1STLITE
12-06-2006, 09:27 AM
Thanks, Gary. No it was a normal shutdown. And this drive is an external drive, from Seagate, 300GB. Everything it plugged in fine, nice and tight. There is just the power cord and the firewire cord to the computer. Both fine.

But, now that you mention it, there have been times that that drive has gotten unplugged (The power cord came loose from the back of the drive) and I had no idea how, so maybe it does work itself loose somehow. I do hope that is the explanation. Still, I checked them and the cords are fine and plugged in good and tight.

The results of the disk check blinked off the screen too fast for me to see what it found. And thanks to Craig I have been afraid to run another check - lol.

Is there any way for me to know for sure one way or the other if the drive is going bad? I suppose maybe the fact that it has gotten alot more full could be why it has slowed down as far as using it for scratch goes, am I right? But hte two problems together really have me freaked out. Not like I can back up 200-some GB of files to a few dvds.

Dawn

Kraellin
12-06-2006, 10:13 AM
dawn,

normally, you can cancel CHKDSK by just hitting any key on the keyboard.

and rather than make you wait through my long-winded posts, here's what i'd do. since it's an external drive, i'd simply go buy a new one of the same size (actually, i'd buy an internal) and copy the contents of the existing one to the new one. leave the current one off until you're ready to do this. dont use it at all if you really suspect it's going bad. you're only going to be able to turn it on and access it a relatively short amount of time now, if it is going bad. and yes, a new external 200 gb drive shld be less than $300.

after that, you have the option of testing the old drive. you could take it to a shop and let them do it, run some diagnostics on it yourself or just toss it out if you're sure it's really going bad. you might also try defragging it. if you do, do the long, FULL defrag and let it correct any mistakes it finds. you've already got it backed up, so anything that gets lost during this isnt going to hurt you. this may or may not work. if the drive is going bad the defrag may just run interminably long and that's another sign of a drive going bad... defragging takes forever and i'm talking 12 hours or more. you could also run CHKDSK on it and see what it does now or one of the drive diagnostics mentioned before. and if you're comfortable with this, you could even try a low level format (what the factory does before you ever buy the drive) or a normal re-format. just bear in mind that a defrag or re-format or chkdsk isnt going to fix a drive that is actually going bad. all those things will do is straighten out the data alignment and storage of the data. and it isnt the data that makes a drive go bad.

2 years is a pretty short life for a drive. try a different brand than seagate if you can. normally, a drive shld last 10,000 hours or so my brother tells me. there may even be a rating showing this on the box or the drive. so, if you use the drive a lot, 2 years may be its normal life. if you only use it a few hours a day, then obviously the life span is shorter. one thing you can do to save drive life is to set windows to tell the drive not to spin continuously when not being accessed or to at least shut it off sooner. drives keep their platter spinning so that access times are shorter when you access them. but, you can turn that feature off. it just means your initial access time is going to be a few microseconds longer. not a big deal unless you're a fanatic.

using your drive as a scratch disk has nothing to do with its shelf life, other than you're using it for anything. see the above paragraph :)

you might also consider getting an internal drive instead of the external. your access times will be significantly better. firewire and usb are quite slow relative to ide (internal) or sata (which is generally faster than ide). i normally use external drives only for backup and leave them off most of the time.

so, if your budget is $300, you might be able to get both an internal drive for your scratch disk and an external for backups.

as for how photoshop does scratch disks and what might be better, a whole drive versus a partition on a drive, i dont really know, since i use Paint Shop Pro and just let windows handle this all in its normal virtual memory thing. but i do know that an internal drive versus an external would be better due to the relative access times of both.

so, basically, if you have any suspicion about the drive going bad, get a new one and back up the old one, pronto! after that, the stress is off and you can try and find out more about the old one and what's going on. drives are pretty cheap these days and it's worth the bucks to be safe on these.

and one last note on this; before buying an internal, make sure you have available ports for this in your machine and of the kind that will fit the drive you want to get. ide and sata are not the same thing and use a different type port. sata and sata II use the same type, but not ide and sata. normally, most stock computers have 4 ide ports and that's it. newer ones may also have sata ports, but check first. you can also buy pci cards that will allow adding extra ide and sata drives, but that's an extra expense.

Gary Richardson
12-06-2006, 04:40 PM
Think Craig's pretty much covered everything.

Without running extensive tests (which are not without risk), there's no definitive way to say if your disk is on the way out. But if your data is the more valuable commodity, then an early replacement is a sensible course of action.

tived
12-06-2006, 07:16 PM
I have an external Seagate drive that I use for storing photos, etc. I also use it as a scratch disk in Photoshop.

Hold on, rule #1 you never use a external disk for scratch disk, that is like getting drinks at the party, from the liqure store in the next town (as oppose to have cold drinks in the fridge) relative time.


I haven't read the whole thread here, so my apology if this has already been solved or suggested.

random shutdowns are offen caused by bad power (eg your powersupply is slowly biting the dust, or one of your devices) 2nd it can be heat related, one of your internal fans have stopped working or not working as it should.

You could be running into problems like this because you have misconfigured your machine, the fact that you have your scratch disk on an external disk is a major flaw in your configuration, secondly your scratch disk could be full or close to full.
defrag isn't going to do much for you, but it is a nice thing to do every now and then.
Have you changed the way you work, eg have you started to work on larger files then before or have you installed any new applications or by chance installed anything from the net, that is suckin up your resources, if one win XP have a look at your task manager, and see which program is sucking up the most resources other then Photoshop

best of luck

Henrik

Photoshop: more RAM more RAM and new and bigger power supply and a new big external hard drive will do wonders :-)

1STLITE
12-06-2006, 09:14 PM
Craig, I tried hitting a key, a couple times eve, to stop the check disk but nothing happened and it just kept going. (BTW - anyone notice the incredible decrease in typos in my posts?? LOVE that spell checker in firefox2.0!!!!)

Since I was going to be getting another of these drives anyways, it is no problem to do that. I am gonna talk to my baby brother - he is the hardware tech in the family. We have been talking about building me a new system for some time now, so I am gonna have to get on his butt to get over here and check on the internal drive stuff this weekend. I understand everything you said, but actually knowing what to do is another story. Thank you so much for your help!! At least now I have a plan of action! First and foremost is getting a new external drive to back this stuff up on, and this weekend my brother will be here - and we are gonna figure this out. I will let you know how it turns out.

This really sucks because I have work I need to finish before Christmas, a freakin ASuka album I have to build and retouches on probably 50 images (not simple retouches either, we are talking facial slimming, background replacing - the list is endless) Not to mention maybe 50 or more restorations. UGH.

Ok - deep breaths - Now I am gonna go price some drives or something, or do some housework - feel like I accomplished something here. lol

Thank you and Gary for helping so much with this issue, and thanks Henrik for trying to help.

Have a great night, ya'll!!
Dawn

BTW - these are what I was working on when I realized this was the problem. I had Santa pics last week, and spent the next two days getting them ready to send for printing. These are my kids. :classic:
Merry Christmas!!

Littlecoo
12-07-2006, 12:45 AM
Hey Dawn, sorry to hear about your hardware hassels. I think ditto to most things previously mentioned. I used to have an XP Athlon 3.2gig...The thing ran as hot as Hades and was instable and crashy as all getout... (esp towards the end of it's days and besides, Australia isn't exactly a cold place to begin with) I ceased to care after a while and joyfully hastened it's departure :evil:
Anyhow, I digress... get yourself another internal HDD, they're not expensive, an extra HDD is always usefull so you can't lose....and you can backup all your files on it. Oh, and I heartily endorse the aquisition of a Mac...wish I could afford one :sad:

Gary Richardson
12-07-2006, 02:00 AM
Hi Dawn,

Love the pictures of the kids with Santa, do they still believe? I love it when they can still enjoy all the wonder of Christmas.

1STLITE
12-07-2006, 07:31 AM
Exactly how I feel about a Mac. I was planning to save for it, but I can't afford it right now. Maybe I will just wait on all the other stuff and just get the external drive to replace this one and continue working as I have til I have enough saved.

Gary - Thanks for commenting on the pics! Yep, my kids are 6 and 3 and whole-heartedly believe! This was actually their first time to sit on Santa's lap. We tried with my daughter when she was about 2, and she was having NONE of it!! I wish I could share with you all the pics of my nephew as well (but I am not sure how my sister would feel about it). My kids sat there like bumps on a log and would not say a thing. My nephew took a minute and then let the gates open, listed everything he wanted - stuff I can't remember the names of even. A couple of the shots I got of him looked as though he was counting his fingers while he named them all off!! Truly priceless!

Yeah, I think I will just replace that external drive for now. What I have been doing has been working very well for me. I know my system is far from optimal, but I think I have this working better than most folks would think. I will just save up for a better system, a Mac....

Gary Richardson
12-07-2006, 09:58 AM
Yeah kids are amazing, they can remember a list of things they want that's as long as your grocery list, tell you how much each item costs, and where you can buy it. But you ask em to remember to tidy up their rooms ............. sorry we forgot! (Too busy pricing up next years list :D )

Good luck with saving for the Mac, if things with you are like they are with me, a whole lot of other "essentials" will get in the way first, but stick to it and I'm sure you'll get it in the end.

1STLITE
12-07-2006, 11:09 AM
Thanks, Gary. Yeah, you have no idea the things that are going to get in the way of it!!! One day, though.... one day!!!

Kraellin
12-08-2006, 08:17 AM
dawn,

you're welcome. i do hope things work out ok.

the 'press any key' option with chkdsk will only work before it starts auto-running. you'll see the chkdsk screen, be given the option to let it run or not and if you let it run the only way to stop it would be to reboot or turn off the machine.

nice kids :)

1STLITE
12-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Thanks, Craig. That really clarifies that whole thing for me.

I really appreciate all your help.

One more question if you don't mind, for anyone really - I thought Seagate was a really good brand of external hard drives. If I go with another brand, what would you recommend or have heard was good, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg?

Kraellin
12-08-2006, 03:08 PM
dawn,

you're welcome :)

it used to be pretty much between seagate and western digital. then maxtor came along.

of the three, i've mostly used maxtor and am normally pretty happy with them, with only one exception (one drive lasted barely over a year). i would expect roughly three years out of a drive and maxtor has usually done ok in that regard. i really dont know a lot about seagate or western digital. i do have one new WD drive now but havent had it long enough to say good or bad yet.

also, do NOT use any of the maxtor software to set up the drive. the last time i tried it was pretty confusing and i just went back to standard dos or windows stuff. and, since this is going to be an external drive, you can format it and partition it all from within windows. you dont have to do the dos thing or some other software. just RIGHT CLICK on 'My Computer' and look down the menu for 'manage'. hit that and it will open a new window. in that window, look down the list and find 'disk management' and click on that and you'll find all the tools you need to set up the new drive. if the drive is already formatted, you wont even need that, unless you want to make new partitions.

1STLITE
12-08-2006, 09:45 PM
Thanks (again) Craig. I seem to recall having a choice to make on the type of formatting on this seagate drive, one is FAT and I can't remember the other - any opinion on which is better?
I got a guy looking into pricing on these. My problem is that I don't have USB 2.0 so the drive has to also hook up through firewire. Apparently those are way more expensive for some reason than the ones that are just USB 2.0. yay me :pirate:

Kraellin
12-08-2006, 11:14 PM
dawn,

always fun when things break down, isnt it :wry smile:

FAT or FAT 32 is the older, win98 style of formatting. it's not as good as the other, newer NT style called NTFS, which stands for NT file system.

but, what really matters is which one you're currently using with xp. xp can actually handle one or the other, but not both at the same time. so, you can set windows up as FAT or you can set it up as NTFS and that's what all your other drives shld be set up as also.

NTFS is MUCH less wasteful and the better of the two by quite a bit. hopefully, that's what your current winXP is using. if you want to be sure, RIGHT CLICK 'my computer', pick 'manage' and then 'disk management'. look in those rectangles with text inside that represent your disks and disk space. it will say in there what each drive and/or partition is set up with.

no usb 2.0? oh my. that's a bit of an older system, yes? you may be able to add it in via a pci card. firewire is a bit faster than usb, but usb is so standard these days that most machines come with at least 2 ports and often 4 of usb and only sometimes with firewire. you'd have to check with your motherboard's manufacturer to be sure. and you might also have to alter your BIOS, that little part of the computer that keeps track of all your hardware at a very low level. but again, check with your manufacturer adn see what they say. it would be probably be fairly inexpensive if you can and a good thing to have as well. printers these days are often not even shipping with the older parallel cords and often only have usb cords. so, you'd be adding a lot of versatility to your system with usb 2.0.

Gary Richardson
12-09-2006, 02:22 AM
FAT runs faster on disks below 20 Gig, NTFS runs faster on disks over 20 Gig.

From a security standpoint NTFS has the "disadvantage" of using ADS (Alternate Data Stream), but that is not really a reason for not using NTFS, it is more stable, and definitely the format of choice.

Cassidy
12-09-2006, 07:33 AM
Fat 16 is limited to 2048 or 2Gb, Fat32 is limited to a file size of approx 4gb and NTFS allows individual file sizes of greater than 4Gb, very important if you are doing video

Kraellin
12-09-2006, 10:05 AM
hehe, well, i wasnt going to go all technical on dawn. (she's got enough headaches right now). but, there are more advantages to NTFS than just those mentioned. things like cluster size, number of files and folders and so on are all better in NTFS. FAT32 is VERY wasteful with clusters, even when you tweak it down. and, if i remember correctly, when you do tweak it down you trade off with how many files/folders you can create.

but, it is a nice feature of windows XP that it allows you to format in FAT32. my father runs a dual boot system with xp and win98. so, i set up his xp side in FAT32 for file compatibility issues.

1STLITE
12-09-2006, 02:12 PM
Thanks for all the info on that. I was very confused by that whole thing til you all explained it.

CRAIG - I think I need some serious help here. I dunno what just happened but it cannot possibly be good!!

Computer is sitting here idle, I look up to find blue screen white writing that say:

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

THEN IT SAYS:

KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

Then explains to me that if this is the first time to see this message to restart the computer. So I held in the power button since nothing else would make anything happen.

Seriously what the heck is up, ya know? I opened up that event viewer you told me to look at before. There is in the system logs an error that says it had to do with Service Control Manager.


UGH!

Kraellin
12-09-2006, 10:09 PM
dawn,

i had to look some of this up myself. the service control manager is that part of windows that manages all those little 'services' that run in the background. you can see them when you call up task manager with a control-alt-delete. it apparently also handles driver services, which may be the key here. think 'hardware drivers'.

and on this page: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/44544/44544.html i found this: A. The KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR code indicates that the paging-file access process failed to find a page of kernel data. This problem has several possible causes. To determine the cause, look at the line that's under the main error message, which provides diagnostic information. The second parameter in this line is the I/O status code, which gives detailed information about the actual cause of the problem. The Table lists common KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR error codes and their meanings. For example, on my computer I received the 0xC000009C error code--STATUS_DEVICE_DATA_ERROR--which indicates bad blocks (sectors) on the hard disk. To resolve the error, I booted to the Recovery Console (RC) and ran the command

chkdsk c: /r
The Chkdsk command found the bad blocks and fixed them; the machine then rebooted correctly. , a lot of which has to do with harddrives. (there is a link to the table they mention on that page if you wish to look at it).

so, two more things seem to be pointing to a harddrive issue.

however, dont rule out what some of the others have suggested. it could be a bad fan causing a heat buildup, which can have all sorts of bad things going on. and, it could be a power supply, which can also wreak havoc with a computer system.

and, i would ask this at this point; was the drive you suspect is going bad plugged in and turned on at the time you got the blue screen and error messages or was it off? if it was off, then you may have something else going on or more than one thing going on.

on the other hand, windows just plain old hiccups at times and does goofy things with no apparent bad hardware. every once in a while i'll have a bootup where some bit was missed out of the millions of bits and windows will go, 'nah! i think i'll do something nasty today'. :)

so, again, the IMMEDIATE recommendation is, back up EVERYTHING! if you dont have a drive to put it on, then put it on dvd's. if you dont have a dvd burner, then put it on cd's! and if you dont have a cd burner, put it on floppies :) you could even pull ALL of your drives and take them somewhere to get a copy made. put them in your brother's machine and copy them to his drive(s)!

i'd like you to post what major devices you have in your machine, dvd burner, cd burner, how many drives, your motherboard type and so on. in fact, do this; go to 'start', 'run' and type in 'dxdiag' (without the quotes) and hit enter. you dont need to run any of the tests but where it says 'save all information' down near the bottom, do that and save it to your desktop or anywhere you can find it easily. it will be a .txt file. open that file and select all and copy. paste it in here in this thread. this will give me a little more info about your system.

and may the farce be with you :)

1STLITE
12-09-2006, 11:35 PM
The farce...? Hmmmm...

Here it is, as instructed. Thanks so much, Craig. :classic:

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System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 12/10/2006, 00:30:34
Machine name: 1STLITE
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 04
System Model: P9863A-ABA 742N
BIOS: Award Medallion BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 480MB RAM
Page File: 289MB used, 1315MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPU
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce2 Integrated GPU
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01A0&SUBSYS_36781462&REV_B1
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: hp pavilion mx70
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.13.0010.2880 (English)
DDI Version: 8
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 3535757 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 917101 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42E0-11CF-927C-721613C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x01A0
SubSys ID: 0x36781462
Revision ID: 0x00B1
Revision ID: 0x00B1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
-------------
Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: NFORCE_VAD
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0442.0030 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 396032 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0442.0030 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 396032 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x0
Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: NVIDIA(R) Kernel Synthesizer, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: CTE-430-UV3.1-4
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x0013
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x01C2
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:42, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/18/2001 06:00:00, 4736 bytes
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x0013
| | Location: CTE-430-UV3.1-4
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03&subclass_01
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:19, 36224 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:16, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 8/4/2004 01:56:42, 20992 bytes
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 8/17/2001 16:02:20, 9600 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant device
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x0013
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device
| | |
| +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x0013
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | Service: mouhid
| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 23:58:32, 23040 bytes
| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 15:48:00, 12160 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------
+ PCI bus
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0a03
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 8/4/2004 00:07:46, 68224 bytes
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:21, 10624 bytes

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Photoshop/2 Devices
------------
+ HP PS2 Keyboard (2K - 3)
| Matching Device ID: acpi\pnp0303
| Upper Filters: PS2
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 00:14:36, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 23:58:32, 24576 bytes
| Driver: PS2.sys, 6/4/2001 14:00:00, 14112 bytes
| Driver: ps2.bat, 7/3/2001 21:13:56, 81920 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 02:01:07, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 23:58:32, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 02:01:07, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 23:58:32, 23040 bytes

----------------------------
DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

-------------------
DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: Agere Win Modem
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM3
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

-----------------------
DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

-------------------------
DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
Drive: C:
Free Space: 20.6 GB
Total Space: 52.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: SAMSUNG SV6003H

Drive: D:
Free Space: 0.8 GB
Total Space: 5.0 GB
File System: FAT32
Model: SAMSUNG SV6003H

Drive: E:
Model: HP DVD Writer 740b
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:59:52, 49536 bytes

Drive: F:
Model: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616F
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:59:52, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11C1&DEV_5811&SUBSYS_58111235&REV_04\4&1D92DF28&0&0040
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:10:08, 61056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:10:06, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:58:29, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:58:29, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 15:46:40, 6400 bytes

Name: Agere Win Modem
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11C1&DEV_044E&SUBSYS_044E1235&REV_02\4&1D92DF28&0&1040
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ltmdmnt.sys, 8.31.0000.0000 (English), 12/12/2003 19:03:10, 652689 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\ltmsg.exe, 3.00.0000.0004 (English), 7/14/2003 10:52:44, 40960 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Adapter
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01C3&SUBSYS_367C1462&REV_C2\3&13C0B0C5&0&20
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\NVENET.sys, 4.14.0001.0236 (English), 3/31/2002 22:03:00, 96768 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\jedih2rx.bin, 3/31/2002 22:03:00, 1024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ramsed.bin, 3/31/2002 22:03:00, 122 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\jedireg.pat, 3/31/2002 22:03:00, 42 bytes

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01C2&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_C3\3&13C0B0C5&0&18
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:36, 17024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:46, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01C2&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_C3\3&13C0B0C5&0&10
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:36, 17024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:46, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01BC&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_C3\3&13C0B0C5&0&48
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:59:41, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:59:42, 95360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/18/2001 06:00:00, 3328 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01B8&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_C2\3&13C0B0C5&0&40
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:07:46, 68224 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce AGP Host to PCI Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01B7&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_B2\3&13C0B0C5&0&F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv_agp.SYS, 4.12.0001.0217 (English), 12/7/2001 22:26:00, 13502 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01B4&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_C1\3&13C0B0C5&0&09
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01B2&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_C3\3&13C0B0C5&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/18/2001 06:00:00, 35840 bytes

Name: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01B1&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_C2\3&13C0B0C5&0&30
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:42, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:07:58, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:02, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:57, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvax.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:02, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvarm.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:02, 66688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvmcp.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 962560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvapu.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 396032 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvack.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:08, 7168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvasio.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:08, 30208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvopenal.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:06, 53760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OpenAL32.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:00, 21504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ALut.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:00, 5120 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVCOAD.DLL, 1.00.0000.0015 (English), 5/20/2004 10:11:34, 32256 bytes

Name: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01B0&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_C2\3&13C0B0C5&0&28
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:42, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:07:58, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:08:02, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:56:57, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvax.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:02, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvarm.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:02, 66688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvmcp.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 962560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvapu.sys, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 396032 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvack.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:08, 7168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvasio.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:08, 30208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvopenal.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:06, 53760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OpenAL32.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:00, 21504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ALut.dll, 6.14.0442.0030 (English), 5/25/2004 15:58:00, 5120 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVCOAD.DLL, 1.00.0000.0015 (English), 5/20/2004 10:11:34, 32256 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce 220/420 Memory Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AD&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_B2\3&13C0B0C5&0&02
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA nForce 220/420 Memory Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AC&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_B2\3&13C0B0C5&0&01
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA nForce 220 Memory Controller (DDR)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AA&SUBSYS_36701462&REV_B2\3&13C0B0C5&0&03
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01A4&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_B2\3&13C0B0C5&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPU
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01A0&SUBSYS_36781462&REV_B1\4&32FFA60&0&00F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 917101 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvinstnt.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 61440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 3535757 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 2899968 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 1515520 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvqtwk.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 118784 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nview.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 528456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\dmcpl.exe, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 266240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvshell.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 331850 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvtuicpl.cpl, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nwiz.exe, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 364544 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 43845 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 14759 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\nview\generic.tvp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 15832 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsar.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Arabic), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 118784 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsar.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Arabic), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrscs.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Czech), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrscs.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Czech), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsda.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Danish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsda.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Danish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsde.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (German), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsde.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (German), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsel.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Greek), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 139264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsel.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Greek), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrseng.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 122880 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrseng.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (English), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrses.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Spanish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrses.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Spanish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsfi.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Finnish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsfi.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Finnish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsfr.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (French), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsfr.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (French), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrshe.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Hebrew), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 266240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrshe.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Hebrew), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 69632 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrshu.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Hungarian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrshu.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Hungarian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsit.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Italian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsit.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Italian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsja.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Japanese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 98304 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsja.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Japanese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 57344 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsko.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Korean), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 94208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsko.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Korean), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsnl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Dutch), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsnl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Dutch), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsno.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Norwegian (Bokmål)), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 122880 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsno.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Norwegian (Bokmål)), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrspl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Polish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrspl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Polish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrspt.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Portuguese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrspt.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Portuguese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsptb.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Portuguese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsptb.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Portuguese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrsru.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Russian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrsru.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Russian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrssk.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Slovak), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrssk.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Slovak), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrssl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Slovenian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 1290240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrssl.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Slovenian), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrssv.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Swedish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrssv.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Swedish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrstr.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Turkish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrstr.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Turkish), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrszhc.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Chinese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrszhc.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Chinese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvrszht.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Chinese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwrszht.dll, 6.13.0010.2880 (Chinese), 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpar.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 50222 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpar.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16715 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpcs.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 44912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpcs.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16886 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpda.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45767 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpda.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15193 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpde.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 48465 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpde.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16073 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpel.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 50084 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpel.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16721 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpeng.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 43860 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpeng.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 14863 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpes.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 46010 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpes.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15184 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpfi.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 46050 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpfi.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15281 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpfr.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 44711 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpfr.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 14819 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcphe.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 49612 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcphe.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16256 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcphu.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 50637 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcphu.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16555 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpit.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45515 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpit.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15230 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpja.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 74792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpja.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 14598 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpko.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 50982 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpko.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 14046 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpnl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 46548 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpnl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15117 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpno.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 44969 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpno.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15007 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcppl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 47662 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcppl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 16247 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcppt.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45093 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcppt.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15444 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpptb.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45313 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpptb.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15432 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpru.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 49208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpru.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15571 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpsk.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 48952 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpsk.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15368 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpsl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 48170 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpsl.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15615 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpsv.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 45731 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpsv.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15579 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpth.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 64229 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpth.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 18834 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcptr.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 47329 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcptr.hlp, 3/26/2002 00:29:00, 15173 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpzhc.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 50368 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpzhc.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 13365 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpzht.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 41949 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcpzht.hlp, 3/9/2002 17:53:00, 13386 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:41 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:41 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:41 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:41 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:48 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:48 18432 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:03 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:03 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:48 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 159232 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 35328 bytes
gameenum.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:08:21 10624 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 82432 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.2032 English Final Retail 2/7/2006 14:59:20 1224704 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 06:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:46 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:41 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1125 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 498205 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 148992 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:43 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 10.00.0000.3802 English Final Retail 1/28/2005 13:44:28 221184 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 385024 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:24 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2749 English Final Retail 8/29/2005 21:54:26 1287168 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3928 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:45 246302 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:15:22 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:58 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:42 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:08:02 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:58:38 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:58:40 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:58:41 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:58:41 4352 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 118272 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:43 1428480 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:57 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:44 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 01:56:46 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo 8 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
G2M Session Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
InterVideo Video Decoder,0x00700000,2,3,ivivideo.ax,3.02.0041.0081
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Nero Scene Detector 2,0x00200000,2,0,NeSceneDetector.ax,3.02.0000.0020
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Nero Digital Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,NeAudio.ax,3.02.0000.0020
DV Scenes,0x00200000,1,1,NVDV.dll,3.00.0002.0000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,10.00.0000.3802
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
CyberLink AudioCD Filter (PDVD6),0x00600000,0,1,CLAudioCD.ax,5.00.0000.2107
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
CyberLink Audio Decoder,0x00602000,1,1,CLAud.ax,6.00.0000.1407
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero Resize,0x00200000,1,1,NeResize.ax,3.02.0000.0020
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CyberLink Audio Effect (PDVD6),0x00200000,1,1,claudfx.ax,6.00.0000.1223
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Video Grabber,0x00200000,1,0,grabfilt.ax,
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
Nero Audio Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,3.02.0000.0020
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
Arcsoft MPEG-2 Writer,0x00200000,2,0,MPEG-2Writer.ax,
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Render Dib New,0x00200000,1,1,ezrgb24.ax,
Nero Digital AVC Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,2,NeNDAud.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Nero Digital AVC File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,NeNDMux.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Nero Digital AVC Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeNDMux.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Nero Digital AVC Muxer,0x00200000,2,1,NeNDMux.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Nero Digital AVC Video Enc,0x00200000,1,2,,
Ligos MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,lmpgad.ax,3.05.0000.0072
Nero QuickTime(tm) Video Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTDec.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Nero Format Converter,0x00200000,1,1,NeroFormatConv.ax,3.02.0000.0020
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
Nero Photo Source,0x00200000,0,1,NePhotoSource.ax,3.02.0000.0020
CyberLink Demux (PDVD6),0x00200000,1,0,CLDemuxer.ax,1.00.0000.2221
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero Video Analyzer,0x00200000,2,0,NeVideoAnalyzer.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero ES Video Reader,0x00600000,0,1,NDParser.ax,3.02.0000.0020
CyberLink Line21 Decoder (PDVD6),0x00200000,0,2,CLLine21.ax,4.00.0000.4520
DV Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,NVDV.dll,3.00.0002.0000
Nero Audio CD Filter,0x00200000,0,1,NeAudCD.ax,3.02.0000.0020
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,