View Full Version : Salvaging A Bad Shot? Critique time. cardmnal 02-05-2007, 02:51 PM The following photo (first below) was taken along Slide Lake Rd in early October. Many of the photos I shot that day came out well but this one obviously has issues as I think I just shot without checking any of my cameras settings. The more I look at it, the more I believe it can be salvaged and turned into a nice print.
I made various corrections to increase light, contrast, color etc. (second below)
The image still looks a little flat to me so I applied an extra curves layer (third below). This made it pop a little more but does it look over saturated now? Is it beginning to appear unnatural?
Something about it still bugs me but I cannot put my finger on it.
I would like critiques/suggestions for this photo and the digital darkroom results. Thanks in advance
The fourth version is an oil painting made in alien skin snap art I thew in for those of us who think every photo makes a good photo art subject.
Alan CJ Swartz 02-05-2007, 03:14 PM Hmmm, if you think your version is OVER-saturated, what will you think of mine! ;)
Only you know what you saw that day, but it looks to me like there are some lovely yellows and reds with the greens and browns, and the sky should have some color. OK, now I see you've already starting cropping the image, which is probably a good idea (even tho it takes away the contrasting blue in the sky) - let me see what I come up with as far as a crop... CJ Swartz 02-05-2007, 11:12 PM Version two -- I used curves in LAB with masks to see if I could add drama to sky while retaining colors that I think are in the meadow. Decided that there were sunlit areas and shady areas and used Overlay blend layers to paint in more sunlight.
Well, I wasn't there, so I can "see" it that way... CathyH 02-06-2007, 06:44 AM Hi Alan
I love these photos you are taking, what a beautiful area.
The colors seem to be a little too yellow/orange for me.
But mostly I think if you tried to do some paint with light effect and bring out the river and the road, that would help with composition.
Cathy DCobb 02-06-2007, 10:03 AM Lovely scene--Thought I would give it a try.
dc Daviskw 02-06-2007, 10:53 AM Everyone did such a good job with the photo that I had nothing to add...sooo I went another way... just for fun
Butch dorkyraych 02-06-2007, 11:41 AM Here's my try- First picture post-
I first went in and adjusted the curves, added a duplicate high pass on overlay, and then added a photo filter, and played around with with a few other adjustment layers- mostly color and brightness/contrast, added some highlights and shadows- and this is what I ended with. It is a little over saturated to me, but I liked it :hairbow: :) cardmnal 02-06-2007, 11:46 AM Okay, I think you all have me going in the direction I want.
First let me say thanks for the suggestions. Now let's see what we got.
There are two reasons for the crop I used. First I wanted to bring the mountains in the background as close as possible. Second, when I used a wider crop I felt as though I was looking out a car window...which I wasn't. For these reasons I decided to sacrifice the blue sky.
CathyH, I think you were dead-on about the yellows. I can't believe I didn't notice it in the sky and the snow on the mountains. I am not sure I understand what you mean by "paint with light effect and bring out the river and the road". I would sure appreciate it if you expanded on the suggestion. Maybe you could post an example.
CJ Swartz, I do agree with you that the image needed more drama in the sky. I selected it and added a medium blue photo filter at about 90% opacity. I am much happier with it now.
While I still had my selection active I inverted it and added a little levels adjustment to the midtones and shadows. it was very small but I suddenly saw that pop I have been looking for.
DCobb, Taking a cue from your rendition I did sharpen the photo just a bit. On shots like this I often prefer the focus to be just a bit soft to give it a painted feeling but, after looking at yours, I felt maybe just a tad more detail may help. I think it did.
You guys all rock!! :bow: :bow: :bow:
Thanks,
Alan Kraellin 02-06-2007, 12:25 PM cardmnal,
i think the only thing you've wrong on the first set, is you've enhanced the reds a bit much, and maybe the yellows just a bit. and this also applies to your last post. those reds are jumping out too much for the rest of the image. otherwise, i really like it.
i took a shot at this also but toned down the colors a bit and raised the contrasting somewhat.
dupe background.
brightness/contrast layer to bring levels up
curves layer for same reason
histogram adjustment
masked the 'crater' portion
color balance on selected area
hue/sat layer on selected area in the blues and yellows
invert selection
brightness/contrast layer on new selection area
hue/sat layer on selection
killed the selection
clarify on whole.
another brightness/contrast layer to lower lighting a bit.
done. unimatrix001 02-07-2007, 09:30 PM I like what everyone has done. It is amazing how many ways there are to do the same thing with these photos. I duplicated the background layer, add a levels adjustment layer set blending mode to screen, added a Hue Saturation level adjusted the master saturation to about +19, selected the sky and added a selective color adjustment layer, used these settings on the white color, cyan +39, magenta +22, yellow +14 and black -2. these are just my vision of the colors. Sweetlight 02-07-2007, 10:46 PM It was definitely yellow to begin with but a beautiful image. I have a similar shot taken in a little place called Pray, Montana. I like the crop and now the color is right on. Butch, that was a really cool variation you did, way cool actually.
c CathyH 02-17-2007, 11:33 AM Here is what I meant about "painting with light" to help draw the eye into the center. I hope you can see the difference.
I used a 50% gray layer set to soft light and then I dodged in some high lights and used the burn tool to darken some shadowy areas. Kraellin 02-17-2007, 01:38 PM cathyh,
when you say '50% gray layer', i assume you mean a gray set to 128 (or 127.5) and not 50% opacity on the gray layer, yes? CathyH 02-17-2007, 02:49 PM I'm sorry I wasn't very clear.
On a new layer go to Edit/Fill change the contents box to 50% gray at 100% and leave it on Normal but then I change the layer mode to soft light. Then I used the dodge and burn tool to add some high lights and shadows - at low amounts.
cathy chillin 02-17-2007, 06:59 PM I tried to find credible colors. BillFrey 02-17-2007, 08:17 PM Hi,
There's enough detail in the photo to do just about anything :)
I played with levels/curves and selective color to achieve this one. Cassidy 02-18-2007, 01:16 AM Alan, the 2nd image and the artistic one looks great. Hard to know what you were actually seeing at the time.
Had to have a go if you don't mind :)
Did a white to transparent gradient and overlaid to lighten the foreground, merged the layers and duplicated the image before running a heavy highpass overlay on the image. Shadd 02-18-2007, 11:41 AM Though I’d put a slightly softer feel with this one. u2chin 03-07-2007, 06:54 PM hmm, dont even remember exactly what I did ><
cleaned up the exposure, cropped, balanced the colors, and then added the sunlight, burned all over the place, and contrast here n there. I just added what I thought was missing as I went along =P | |