I am trying to retouch pageant portriats and i am trying to get the porcelain look heres a website of something like the look that i am trying to get www.beckycarter.com (http://www.beckycarter.com)

Thank in advance :)

Try Glitter Guru. http://www.glitterguru.com/ and her book is here (http://www.amazon.com/Glitterguru-Photoshop-Concept-Cool/dp/073571133X/sr=1-1/qid=1171579011/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7362955-1272955?ie=UTF8&s=books) .

She has a lot of tutorials designed to get that glamour/pageant look.

wow! some photographers do cross the line to get these types of photographs! It would be interesting to learn this! But all the pictures look the same to me...the eys and mouth is almost identical! the "flash reflection" is the sam ein each pictures! this is for drawings on new layers and very detailed! she doesn't get it all right on the smiling pictures....they looke weird arouind the teeth and mouth area...IMO!

some eyes are made bigger then they are, example of that is the last picture on the right there...the girl with the black dress...

so to sum up my ideas

- heavy skin retouching, to the point of drawing
- reflection in eyes painted in(details in eyes as well)
- eyes made bigger, probably with liquify tool

that's what I can see here...

Gerry

To me they all look perpetually surprised. :) Though this is the look for pageants I guess.

Gerry... You have a good eye and I agree with all you said. Those double catch lights in the eyes are spooky! LOL

Like you, I find these retouches more like illustrations than of _real_ people. JMHO.

Thanks everyone i agree most of her pictures are kinda spooky and i'm not wanting to do just what she did i just wanted more of the porcelain look :)

I am sure that there are tutorials here (have recently joined and not had time to check them out) but you can go to Photoshopmoma.net and use her tutorial to learn this retouch technique. She does not teach the fake look but you can take it a step further and get the pageant look. I am very new at retouching but you can look at Challenge #32 where I used her technique. It was a baby so I was careful not to go too far with the makeover. You can take it as far as you want to.

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its done with templates, eyes from photoshop(google for photoshop artificial eyes tutorials), get a doll and get her hair and replace.

The glitterguru skin techniques are too old.

Doll Hair! Now I get it and I have dolls to copy hair from. I have the templates for eyes but have never got them to look real. Guess by looking at the pageant site that they don't look real. I think I will continue with the eye retouch from Photoshopmoma for now. Thanks again.

Yeah i would agree with kinda spooky....they all look like little human-plastic-dolls, or something :)

Wow!
This border lines really weird IMHO. I'm shocked that parents would indorse this total misrepresentation of their children. I hope I never meet anyone that would exploit little girls like this- it's sickening. :sad:

Regards,

RS

the american culture has some weird "branches" tha spread out! Some very nice, but some are very weird to the point of bizarre! The parents who strive to push their children trough beauty pagents when they are 2-3-4-5 years old. What do they learn? That looks are everything, their mind will be focused on looks and they don't know anything else!

Well, this was not going to be a discussion! Sorry if anybody didn't liek what I wrote, but I had to get it of my chest! I'm a bit upset by these pictures really! Poor children!


Gerry

You might try running a heavy dose of noise reduction on a duplicate layer, add a mask so it only effects the skin. Don't forget to paint on some blush.

Thanks everyone.... Just to let you all know i am not trying to get the same look as that website i too think it's way out there it was JUST an example of the mask layers and such to get the smooth porcelain look thats IT.

I'm going to have nightmares of Barbarella dolls, for weeks.

Thanks everyone.... Just to let you all know i am not trying to get the same look as that website i too think it's way out there it was JUST an example of the mask layers and such to get the smooth porcelain look thats IT.

I totally understand, I'm not pointing fingers at you.

Regards ,

Richard

I did a tutorial last year on how to get the Porcelain Skin/Dior Look in portraits. Its at this site.

The tutorial is a bit detailed - because it goes from basic Photoshop techniques into advanced retouching. It covers the porcelain look, glamour, and retouching in general. The advantage of the techniques described is that you can infinitely adjust the realism/smoothed ratio to any degree to suit your own preferences. The areas you would be using start about a third of the way down into the tutorial.

The link is here. http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=209

Ray12

Did you ever find a tutorial for this look? If not try http://myjanee.home.insightbb.com/tutorials.htm

There is a porcelain effect tutorial here.

There's no magic in that look.Use noise ninja and boost it until you get that doll-like effect. For eyes,use to lights upront stacked up(if you are photographer). Use dodge to whiten the eyes. then create a new layer and paint the eyes with blue,overlay it. That's it. EASY