Hi Folks :)!

Okay, I’m not sure of it's a copyright image.. But I have retouch it, just for fun but also to try for me new things!

Original (http://blog.vbios.com/res/image/publication/1129893462_2.jpg)
Retouch (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/angeliajolieretouchuiteindelijkecop.jpg)

And now is my question:
What do you think? And how would you do it? let me see:)!
All the Critique is welcome ;)!

Thanks!

Ruud.

Photoshop. it’s a Portrait of Angelina Jolie, Yeah she is already a beauty, I know;)

Ruud

Excellent job on the eyes!

A couple things I note.. lips lack "gloss", you lost her right shoulder altogether, her lower right chin area lost some pixels and the line is not smooth.

Skin tone and texture is good, but for the over all lighting on the face, I finde a little too much contrast between the left and right cheek areas. The left cheek may be a little too dark.

Good job.

Ruud

Excellent job on the eyes!

A couple things I note.. lips lack "gloss", you lost her right shoulder altogether, her lower right chin area lost some pixels and the line is not smooth.

Skin tone and texture is good, but for the over all lighting on the face, I finde a little too much contrast between the left and right cheek areas. The left cheek may be a little too dark.

Good job.

Thanks Swampy;)!

hmm, i dont understand how you mean that i misted gloss on her right shoulder? can you explain it more:)

I think you mean about the chins shadow line?
and about the cheeks i will make it lighter, thanks for the critique! im gonna do somthing with it.

i wil post the image again later when its changed;)


R.

Ruud

I have circled the shoulder area in the sample below where the definition of the shoulder line has been blown out.

As for her lips, they look dry and lifeless. They need more gloss or a wetter look.

After looking at your work in progress again, I must have had an anomoly on the screen redraw. The first time I looked at it her right jaw line looked crooked, but after re-opening the file, it looks fine.

Ruud

I have circled the shoulder area in the sample below where the definition of the shoulder line has been blown out.
Notice in Swampy's sig that they're using a Mac. Apple/Mac displays have a brighter gamma than PC/Windows displays. That section of the shoulder is very light but only the red channel technically goes beyond 255 - see attached images.

It all depends on your intended output I think but IMO this one's fine for my monitor.

Here is te changed retouched image again;)!

i did the lips, chin and the shoulder change.
(from the critique of swampy)

Retouch (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/verbeteringenAngelinajolie2copy.jpg)

R.

You said you weren't sure if that image is copyrighted. Not that I care, but you can assume ALL images are copyrighted unless they state specifically that they are not. Photographer owns what passes through that lense. By the time you see the picture in a magazine or on a website, someone else usually owns some version of it to some degree, if not completely. So, if it makes you feel better, you are probably violating two copyrights! :nod: But I won't tell! Shhh!

it's a nice retouch of a retouche dpciture...but I can't help to feel that i feel smore artificial now...




Gerry

i think u did a really good job on it.....very subtle changes but a big difference

Rudd

Much better on the shoulder area. :-)

I think what is bothering me about her lips is that her eyes have so much sparkle and the skin is very "powdery" (is that a word). Her lips look powdered and women don't do that. They go out and buy expensive lip gloss to shine up their lips. Also, you'll note her lips are glossed in the original.

I did a very light dodge on her lips. Especially the lower one that is reflecting more light.

Rudd

Much better on the shoulder area. :-)

I think what is bothering me about her lips is that her eyes have so much sparkle and the skin is very "powdery" (is that a word). Her lips look powdered and women don't do that. They go out and buy expensive lip gloss to shine up their lips. Also, you'll note her lips are glossed in the original.

I did a very light dodge on her lips. Especially the lower one that is reflecting more light.

oke I know wat you mean!;) but i think that that is just To much? but youre right about it, only i think that is to Glossy, ore how you say that? it just ehm? bleach out? but i'm gonna try it out! and we will see whats comming;)!

Ruud.

Okey here they are!
3 other versions of more 'gloss'

Version 1 of more 'gloss' on lips. (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/verbeteringenAngelinajolie22copy.jpg)
Version 2 of more 'gloss' on lips. (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/verbeteringenAngelinajolie2otherglo.jpg)
Version 3 of more 'gloss' on lips. (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/verbeteringenAngelinajolie2copy2.jpg)
let me know what you think;)

R.

HI Ruud overall nice retouch Swampy"s suggestions are good also though I noticed her left temple has a lot of noise or something else and color is not good
Zganie

HI Ruud overall nice retouch Swampy"s suggestions are good also though I noticed her left temple has a lot of noise or something else and color is not good
Zganie
thanks! you mean on the left by her ear?

Ruud.

Hello Ruud

that very interesting work

i am quite new to this retouch thing and would like to know please
how you did that photo -
perhaps step by step guidelines

i would like to try out some retouching aslo

thanks

Ruud

#2 is the best of the three. :-)

Ruud

#2 is the best of the three. :-)

okey:) im goning do now that ehm, noise on the left by her ear;) en then I will see what for critique/suggestions comming next.

Ruud.

Hello Ruud

that very interesting work

i am quite new to this retouch thing and would like to know please
how you did that photo -
perhaps step by step guidelines

i would like to try out some retouching aslo

thanks

Hi ilegales,

pff there you asking me something..
i cant really explain that pretty well.. but, i can give you some links to Tutorials on this website, that have really help me..

SKIN That Soft Dior Look for Portraits (http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=209)
SKIN The quick de-grunge trick (http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=213)
EYE Eye Enhancement (http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=61)
FACE Beautify a Face (http://www.lunacore.com/photoshop/tutorials/tut018.htm)
FACE Beauty retouching (http://www.graphic-design.com/Photoshop/glamour.html)
FACE Digital Cosmetic Surgery (http://www.tipclique.com/tutorial/photoshop/digital-cosmetic-surgery/)

and further, you get self experience as you go retouching for a time..

I hope I helped you!;)
Ruud.

Okey here it is!

all changed things from all you suggestion/critique, Till now;)!
ehm let me know what U think now.. i will post now the original, the retouched that i posted first and the over retouched retouched image!

Original (http://blog.vbios.com/res/image/publication/1129893462_2.jpg)
First post of retouced image (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/angeliajolieretouchuiteindelijkecop.jpg)
The final one! till now. (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/Ruudphoto92/plusglosspluslittlecolerenchangeplu.jpg)

thanks! Ruud.

Ruud thanks for those links

just an observation on my part is that on the final final version the lips are strange in that the lower lip pretrudes a lot more than the upper lip due to the darkening of the top and lightening of the bottom lip thus making the bottom lip appear closer to the viewer -

i prefere the lips on the previous version -

HOw are you getting the colour in this image ??

thanks

the after one is ready to be published on the musclemag

dontbugme, I think that is a compliment haha..? thanks.

ehm, the color on this pic? just color Balance;)! and i did a sepia layer on it, just 25% and then i set the layer on 30% opacity;)

Ruud.

Ruud i took a try on your photo tell me what you think

zganie

I am laughing out loud at all this 'retouching' of an already retouched image...

Doesn't matter what you do, it looks way too much, because it's already retouched. You just touched it a lot, no retouch.

okey, maybe youre right Ant, but i have just fun in retouching and i try to get more experience, i try new things for me, and practise just to get better, i'm 14 years old so i'm not a prof or something you know;) and i just retouch for 2 years now. But I respect your opinion (as a prof i think? because you last time was talking about a maybeline thing? or something), so thanks for your critique, I will do something with it!;) (and thinking again of the photo not already was retouched)

zganie, i think you did a good job! but i think by that 'glowing effect' you make it on real -not that my image looks real, its way to perfect, no one can be like that, i know, its like Ant say 'it looks way too much', because its already retouched;)- but now for youre image, by that 'glowing effect' you
-for example- doesnt see the skin texture anymore;)! but for the rest it looks good For me;)!

Ruud.

LOL well i am no fashion retoucher just wanted to mess with it actually,I do research on photography plus buy and sell photographs

zganie

I'm in the "no expert" side of things - and very little experience doing it... and Lord knows I like messing around with pictures too. I think people often over work the eyes... making the whites TOO white - but I see it a lot on professional magazines too, so maybe it's just me.

The lips in this picture... in the original it looks like she is puckering for a kiss, but smoothing it changes the whole picture story, so though the reworked lips look fine... I'm not sure it's appropriate.

Just my 2cents :square:

I am somewhat of a newbie to re touching. If you could share the steps to achieve this please email me photoshop.ky@gmail.com

Thank you
Klawson

I am somewhat of a newbie to re touching. If you could share the steps to achieve this please email me photoshop.ky@gmail.com

Thank you
Klawson

A request for a step by step tutorial via email really defeats the purpose of these forums where we share knowledge openly. I'm not saying that it is in any way "against the rules", but that if someone wants to write a step-by-step tutorial, their time and effort would be more effective if posted openly and shared by all.

I am somewhat of a newbie to re touching. If you could share the steps to achieve this please email me photoshop.ky@gmail.com

Thank you
Klawson

Youre totally right Swampy;)

ehm, Ileglales asked the same question, and i cant really explain that verry well, so i Set some links on this thread, ik will repead these:

SKIN That Soft Dior Look for Portraits (http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=209)
SKIN The quick de-grunge trick (http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=213)
EYE Eye Enhancement (http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=61)
FACE Beautify a Face (http://www.lunacore.com/photoshop/tutorials/tut018.htm)
FACE Beauty retouching (http://www.graphic-design.com/Photoshop/glamour.html)
FACE Digital Cosmetic Surgery (http://www.tipclique.com/tutorial/photoshop/digital-cosmetic-surgery/)

I hope I helped you!

Ruud

Hy everybody!
What do you think, this retouch technique?
Thanks,

Martin from Hungary

about the angelina photo: i think the eye color is a bit too artificial.
also, i don't really like the eyelashes. they seem smudged, they don't look realistic. i think they should be slimmer and curvier.

this is my attempt at "glossier" lips: