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Peter S
03-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Its long past time that I posted one of my own pics.
This one taken when on a walk along the Thames.
My attempt was done with Art history and took me ages.

Peter

byRo
03-05-2007, 03:41 PM
Peter, that is just beautiful - really caught the mood.

Looks like you enhanced the strokes a little, just the right amount.


Peter S
03-05-2007, 04:22 PM
Peter, that is just beautiful - really caught the mood.

Looks like you enhanced the strokes a little, just the right amount.


Ro thank you very much. You being the master of the brush stroke, I would love to see your go at this. That is if you do one of course (no pressure) (honest)

Peter

Tom K
03-05-2007, 05:25 PM
Peter,
Not being a regular here, but seeing your artwork I just had to tell you
that your 'painting' is really great.... Tom :pleased:

Peter S
03-06-2007, 05:20 AM
Peter,
Not being a regular here, but seeing your artwork I just had to tell you
that your 'painting' is really great.... Tom :pleased:

Thank you Tom

This is just the type of feedback I love :lol:

Please be a more regular visitor I would really like to see some of your stuff, as I do with everyone's.

Peter

palms1
03-06-2007, 07:16 AM
Brings on memories of a nice summers day down the canals aah bliss

Palms

Ziaphra
03-06-2007, 08:57 AM
I love your rendition Peter...is there an AHB tut around? Do you need special brushes and can it be done in Paint Shop Pro? :D Sorry...just really eager to learn!

Swampy
03-06-2007, 12:41 PM
Peter

Great painting. I've never been able to get anything pleasing out of the Art History Brush and it's something we seldom see info on.

I know there are settings for the AHB (tight, loose, dab etc.) and pixel coverage etc. I would love to know what your basic settings were and which "brush" you might have used along with those settings.

Here's all the further I can seem to get with the AHB.

Peter S
03-06-2007, 02:38 PM
Peter

Great painting. I've never been able to get anything pleasing out of the Art History Brush and it's something we seldom see info on.

I know there are settings for the AHB (tight, loose, dab etc.) and pixel coverage etc. I would love to know what your basic settings were and which "brush" you might have used along with those settings.

Here's all the further I can seem to get with the AHB.

Swampy you should have seen my first goes at it, I wouldn't post them!!
This aint that bad.
The brush I used for this was one of Trimoon's, watercolour one (I know it doesn't look like a watercolour - artistic license), I think. He has several for download at his site.
Right a quick start (thanks to Palms).
Open your picture (Duh obvious isn't it)
Make any improvements you want, levels etc (I've been tending to start without lately).
If you make any changes create a new history point using merged layers, and point your history to this point.
Create two new blank layers call one background colour (middle one) and the other (top one) art.
Pick a colour from the picture with the eyedropper tool, and fill the background colour layer with it.
Change the blend mode of the art layer to Hard light (you can play with that later if you want).
Choose the Art history brush from the tool box (I know you know where this is)
Go to the tool pre set menu and choose a pre-set.
I think that the default ones are all set to 100% opacity, I've been lowering that to about 35-40% so as to build up brush strokes. (plus thats what I've noticed others have done with their stuff).
Start painting over the art layer, and see what comes out.
If you want more detail lower the brush size, good for facial details.
This can take some time to do its not always a quick style, especially with small brush sizes.
Depending on what you want cover the whole canvas or not, it's up to you.
When your satisfied with the look of it, what I've been doing is, duping the art layer, and passing it through Redfields Bas-Relief filter, (an outstanding plug-in, knocks spots off Photoshop's), though Emboss will give similar results. I usually overdo this, so fade the opacity of this layer a little.
Then I create a hue and sat AJ just above the background colour level and tweak the colours a little.
Some times if needed, which is most of the time of course,I run USM on a merged layer, just to bring out the brush strokes a little more.
A texture layer can be placed at the top of the layer stack, easy to overdo so I fade it slightly.

Hope this helps, and I hope it all makes sense, and I hope I haven't left out anything important.

My this has been a long reply from me, I'm not used to this maybe there should be an Art History forum here, as you said you have to search for info on it.

I think I need a drink now :nod:

Peter

Swampy
03-06-2007, 02:54 PM
Thank you so much, Peter! A great explanation. I think I was worrying too much about the AHB settings -- Tight curl, dab etc, but I can see with a small brush how you can get more detail. I was just getting big spatters. And I never gave a thought to see what Adobe had set up in the tool Presets for the AHB. Doh!

Again, much thanks for taking the time. :-)

Peter S
03-06-2007, 03:26 PM
Thank you so much, Peter! A great explanation. I think I was worrying too much about the AHB settings -- Tight curl, dab etc, but I can see with a small brush how you can get more detail. I was just getting big spatters. And I never gave a thought to see what Adobe had set up in the tool Presets for the AHB. Doh!

Again, much thanks for taking the time. :-)

Just thought maybe do a Google for pre sets. If you do, I think they go into the tools folder not the brushes.

Peter

Swampy
03-06-2007, 04:04 PM
Good idea, Peter.

I did the "Face with Character" poitrait Here (http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/turning-portraits-into-digital-sketches-oils-watercolors/14297-face-character.html#post149213)

It's still awkward, but I see what you mean about keeping the brush size small and lowering the opacity.

Thanks for the help! :-)

Peter S
03-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Good idea, Peter.

I did the "Face with Character" poitrait Here (http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/turning-portraits-into-digital-sketches-oils-watercolors/14297-face-character.html#post149213)

It's still awkward, but I see what you mean about keeping the brush size small and lowering the opacity.

Thanks for the help! :-)


I keep telling then size IS everything. (they still laugh) :lol:

Peter

Janet Petty
03-06-2007, 05:20 PM
Swampy (and others) Here are a couple of wonderful tutorials on using the AHB.

http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=164

http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=3

Hope these help,

Janet

dkcoats
03-06-2007, 05:55 PM
I consider this:

http://martindigital.com/AH_Ballet_Tut/

the definitive tutorial on the Art History Brush. It changed my AHB life. The author, Joe Martin, is an AHB deity and a first-rate artist whose work is remarkable for its profound sensitivity to the subject matter. The tute includes some of his nifty brushes.

I can't recommend this tutorial highly enough. Really.

Peter S
03-06-2007, 06:14 PM
I consider this:

http://martindigital.com/AH_Ballet_Tut/

the definitive tutorial on the Art History Brush. It changed my AHB life. The author, Joe Martin, is an AHB deity and a first-rate artist whose work is remarkable for its profound sensitivity to the subject matter. The tute includes some of his nifty brushes.

I can't recommend this tutorial highly enough. Really.

Looks like a good one there. Pity the brush presets link doesn't work.
If you've got them and its OK to share, could you post them here as a zip file????

Peter

palms1
03-07-2007, 01:55 AM
I consider this:

http://martindigital.com/AH_Ballet_Tut/

the definitive tutorial on the Art History Brush. It changed my AHB life. The author, Joe Martin, is an AHB deity and a first-rate artist whose work is remarkable for its profound sensitivity to the subject matter. The tute includes some of his nifty brushes.

I can't recommend this tutorial highly enough. Really.


I second that and the brushes are brilliant


Palms

Ziaphra
03-07-2007, 02:27 AM
I love this image so much I thought I'd just do my thing!

patriciakay
03-07-2007, 07:14 AM
Peter this is a great photo....like your rendition of it too...great job with the AHB! Thankyou for the info on how you did!

Palms...very nice...do i detect a touch of aniso???

Swampy...Like yours looks as if painted by hand on paper...

Ziaphra....also very nice....like your style...

If anyone would like me to zip Joe Martins great tool presets just send me a PM with your email addy...He is the master of the AHB brush...I love his artwork!

One from me...buzzed a little,brought details back with the AHB and used curves in Photshop, framed with an action....

Patricia..... :grin:

Britsdad
03-07-2007, 07:52 AM
Love them all, but Peter, this is just amazing! the way it looks so oldie worldy, it fits the subject spot on....And yea I wish the link in Joe's tute worked, it just isn't on the web at all, unless someone knows different.
John

dkcoats
03-07-2007, 09:49 AM
Peter, I tried to attach the brush presets but, alas, the .zip file is too big.

I see, though, that Patricia has kindly offered to email them to anyone who wants them. Thanks, Patricia.

Trimoon has some good AH brushes, too, by the way.
( www.trimoon.com )

Peter S
03-07-2007, 01:45 PM
Peter, I tried to attach the brush presets but, alas, the .zip file is too big.

I see, though, that Patricia has kindly offered to email them to anyone who wants them. Thanks, Patricia.

Trimoon has some good AH brushes, too, by the way.
( www.trimoon.com )

Darn it DK you beat me to it.
Yeah big thanks Patricia they look great.

Peter

Gaulois
03-07-2007, 02:37 PM
I am new here and don't have your guys knowledge, but I believe I can appreciate nice art.
The original picture you posted had nothing special in itself, but what you have done with it is just outstanding. :bigthmb:

Peter S
03-07-2007, 03:50 PM
I am new here and don't have your guys knowledge, but I believe I can appreciate nice art.
The original picture you posted had nothing special in itself, but what you have done with it is just outstanding. :bigthmb:

Wellcome to RetouchPRO
Thanks for that.

Just a question, it looks like you have attached my own picture here, a mistake maybe???

Peter

Gaulois
03-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Wellcome to RetouchPRO
Thanks for that.

Just a question, it looks like you have attached my own picture here, a mistake maybe???

Peter

Not a mistake, just a reference to what I was talking about.

byRo
03-07-2007, 07:02 PM
I would love to see your go at this. That is if you do one of course (no pressure) (honest)Peter
With a nice pic like this, you don't have to insist much.


Kraellin
03-07-2007, 09:19 PM
some nice renditions. i particularly like yours, palms.

i revisited something i havent done in a while, clone painting. i mixed this with Paint Shop Pro's brush strokes filter.

patriciakay
03-08-2007, 12:03 AM
You are welcome to Joes brushes...i dont think i could live without them....

Gaulois....Welcome to RetouchPro....It will be fun if you join in and post your work too....this is how we learn and continue to do so....never ending!!!!

Ro... Like your crop on the second and both are really nicely painted...

Craig...This one is just like an oil painting on canvas...very nice....did i read you have Photoshop now??? Maybe i dreamt it...Now you can use all the great actions from atncentral....Buds frames are what i am using at the moment!!!

Patricia.... :dizzy:

palms1
03-08-2007, 06:02 AM
Thank you Craig

Did you do yours in Paint Shop Pro? it looks very painterly some nice brush work there

Palms

Kraellin
03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
thanks, patricia :)

yes, i have photoshop now, but have barely even opened it. lots of other things i'm currently studying and too many pots on the stove tends to get nothing cooking.

and thanks, palms :)

yes, it's all Paint Shop Pro, clone and brush strokes.

GerryB
03-09-2007, 11:01 AM
I tried a Watercolor technique from a new book I just bought.

pavel123
03-09-2007, 03:49 PM
Just playing with different filters.

Peter S
03-09-2007, 04:45 PM
I love your rendition Peter...is there an AHB tut around? Do you need special brushes and can it be done in Paint Shop Pro? :D Sorry...just really eager to learn!

Ziaphra
Sorry I completely missed this post. I hope you read the one to Swampy a little down from yours, it would give you a start. Also if you check some of mine and swampy's posts there are some links to follow.
Once again sorry.
I'm sure you've done all this but had to post.

Peter

Ziaphra
03-10-2007, 03:30 AM
Not to worry Peter...thanx!

Thought I'd try something else...looks like crackle glaze!

pavel123
03-10-2007, 07:15 PM
Experimenting with Painter 10.

Britsdad
03-19-2007, 03:06 PM
Hi all......Just had to have a try at this one, I, like Peter, did this with the art history brush, and it took me ages aswell. Hope you think I did it justice.....
John

sylvia1065
03-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Very nice jobs done here!
Done with the pattern stamp tool...
Sylvia

alexmeta
03-20-2007, 12:13 AM
...Very good arts.

AHB

pavel123
03-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Not sure why ... normally I do not do "Beetle Juice" kind of illustrations, but here it goes.