View Full Version : I have to buy monitor today, is this a good one?


Marni48
12-29-2007, 10:58 AM
Can someone advise me on this monitor, good or bad? If not good, please let me know what is bad about this. Will the contrast ratio be ok? I have seen 1000-1 but in MUCH higher price?


VIEWSONIC VP720B 17" LCD MONITOR

TFT Active Matrix SXGA LCD
Display Area 17 inch
True Resolution 1280x1024
Contrast Ratio 500:1 (typ)
Brightness 300 cd/m 2 (typ)
Viewing Angle 140° horizontal, 130° vertical
Response Time 4ms (GTG)
Panel Surface Anti-glare

Input Signal Analog RGB Analog
Digital DVI-D
Frequency Fh: 24~82KHz; Fv: 50~85Hz
Sync H/V separated, Composite, Sync on Green (TTL)

Compatibility PC VGA up to 1280x1024
Mac Power Mac up to 1280x1024

Connector Analog 15-pin mini D-sub x1
Digital DVI-D
Audio 3.5 mm audio line-in
Power Built-in power adpater, 3-pin plug

Audio Speakers 2x1-watt

Power Voltage 100-240VAC; 50/60Hz (Switch)
Consumption 45W (Max)

Controls Basic Power, 2, up, down, 1
OSD Auto image adjust, contrast, brightness, input select (analog, digital), audio adjust (volume, mute), ViewMatch® color adjust (sRGB, 9300K, 7500K, 6500K, 5400K, 5000K, user color - RGB), information (resolution, H. frequency, V. frequency, pixel clock, model number, serial number), manual image adjust (H. size, H. position, V. position, fine tune, sharpness), setup menu (language, resolution notice, OSD position, OSD timeout, OSD background), memory recall

Operating Conditions Temperature
Humidity 0°C - 40°C (32°F - 104°F)

Marni48
12-29-2007, 11:12 AM
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR After all that, it's discontinued!!!!!

How bout this one???? Thanks so much for helping!!!!!!!!


ViewSonic VG930M 19"
type of display flat panel display / tft active matrix
built-in devices stereo speakers
width 16.9 in
depth 9.1 in
height 18.9 in
weight 13.2 lbs
enclosure color black, silver
diagonal screen size 19"
viewable size 19"
maximum resolution 1280 x 1024
PDA screen resolution 24-bit (16.7 million colors)
max sync rate (v x h) 75 hz x 82 khz
typical response time 8 ms
controls / adjustments mute, volume, brightness, contrast, h/v position, sharpness, input select, color temperature
display positions adjustments height, swivel, tilt
display screen coating anti-glare
backlight life 50,000 hour(s)
signal input dvi-d, vga
digital camera use security lock slot (cable lock sold separately), wall mountable
image color temperature 9300k, adjustable, 6500k, 6800k
maximum brightness 300 cd/m2
contrast ratio 700:1
image max h-view angle 160
image max v-view angle 155
analog video signal rgb
digital video standard digital visual interface (dvi)

chillin
12-29-2007, 11:40 AM
Missing price range...
I just got one for $256

Samsung 216BW 21.6" Widescreen Monitor
Screen size (diagonal) ? 21.6"
Widescreen Yes
Maximum resolution ? 1680 x 1050
Brightness 300cd/m2
Contrast ratio ? 3000:1
Response time 5-millisecond
Viewing angle width (degrees) 170 horizontal/160 vertical
Audio
Speakers included No
General features
DVI (Digital Video Interface) ? 1
UPC 729507801216
Manufacturer's part number 216BW
Dimensions
Height 16.6 inches
Width 20.2 inches
Depth 8.6 inches
Weight 17.8 lbs.

mistermonday
12-29-2007, 11:43 AM
Marni, the VG series is not the one you want for graphics. The VP930 is the one you should look at. I have used the VP930's for image editing and they are excellent. Accurate color, full viewing angle, and they are calibratable and you get excellent value for the money. It comes with Perfect Suite which I have used a number of times to calibrate the VP930 and the VP2130. You may find that calibration is so good for you needs that you can avoid buying a H/W calibrator. You may want to check out the VP2130 price. The price difference may be worth it if you can use the extra pixels and size.
Regards, Murray

Marni48
12-29-2007, 11:53 AM
Hi Murray

Thanks for answering, I have checked out all the VP series and I just can't afford them, they are over 650 with shipping. My husband will have a stroke!!!!! I just have to try to keep around 400. What about the above Samsung? I am thinking if I can get a monitor around 300+ and then the spyder for 130 I could be in the ballpark, what do you think? What is the most important thing to look for in the monitor? My brain is fried, I have been looking for 2 days now.

chillin
12-29-2007, 12:01 PM
I use Pantone huey Pro. It isn't high end but works for me.

Enkay
12-29-2007, 12:06 PM
Missing price range...
I just got one for $256

Samsung 216BW 21.6" Widescreen Monitor
Screen size (diagonal) ? 21.6"
Widescreen Yes
Maximum resolution ? 1680 x 1050
Brightness 300cd/m2
Contrast ratio ? 3000:1
Response time 5-millisecond
Viewing angle width (degrees) 170 horizontal/160 vertical
Audio
Speakers included No
General features
DVI (Digital Video Interface) ? 1
UPC 729507801216
Manufacturer's part number 216BW
Dimensions
Height 16.6 inches
Width 20.2 inches
Depth 8.6 inches
Weight 17.8 lbs.

I'm actually considering buying that one monday in the 20in version. Tight budget and the reviews and specs seem good. Anyone else has views on that? It's the Samsung 206BW

http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Samsung%20SyncMaster%20206BW%20Monitor:1994677751:page=details;_ylt=Al_YJ.inaSQEE3AjlldVLCznn7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiZ2o2Y3ZwBHNlYwNzaWJzcGVj

It has 16.7 million colors and a contrast ratio of 800:1 and 3000:1 dynamic... Supports a high resolution. Has a wide enough viewing angle. Seems like a good deal but I'd be interested in others opinions.

Marni48
12-29-2007, 12:11 PM
ViewSonic VP2030b 20.1" LCDMonitor-Black

Found it for 410 on Amazon. Whats your opinion? I guess it comes with the calibration suite also???

20.1 color TFT active matrix UXGA LCD
Display Area - 16.1 horizontal x 12.1 vertical; 20.1 diagonal
Optimum Resolution - 1600x1200
Contrast Ratio - 1000 - 1 (typ)
Viewing Angle - 170 degrees, vertical & horizontal @ contrast ratio > 10 - 1
Technical Details
Model: VP2030b
Item Package Quantity: 1
Type: 20.1" color TFT active matrix UXGA LCD
Display Area: 16.1" horizontal x 12.1" vertical; 20.1" diagonal
Optimum Resolution: 1600 x 1200
Contrast Ratio: 1000:1 (typical)
Viewing angle: 170 degrees horizontal, 170 degrees vertical
Response Time: 8 ms gray-to-gray (avg); 16 ms black-white-black (typical)
Brightness: 300 cd/m2
Light Source: Long life, 50,000 hrs. (typical)
Panel Surface: Anti-glare
Analog Video Input: RGB analog (75 ohms, 0.7/1.0 Vp-p)
Digital Video Input: DVI (TMDS, 100 ohms)
Frequency: Fh: 24~92kHz, Fv: 50~85Hz
Synch: H/V separated (TTL), composite sync on green
PC Compatibility: VGA up to 1600x1200 non-interlaced
Mac Compatibility: Power Mac G3/G4/G5 up to 1600x1200; PerfectSuite and pivot function not support by ViewSonic
Analog Connector: 15-pin mini D-sub

mistermonday
12-29-2007, 01:09 PM
Marni, the VP930b is only $321 Cdn = $310 US at PC Cyber anywhere in Canada. The prices should be no higher at similar PC shops in the US. The VP2030b is $432. Where do you live?
Best Rgds
Murray

Marni48
12-29-2007, 01:22 PM
Hi Murray

I am in the USA, Florida. The best I could find is Buy.com free shipping.

I can't find the other one anywhere, they are out of them. I would LOVE to pay that amount for it.

Marni48
12-29-2007, 01:38 PM
Hi Murray


VP930b

Ok, I am REALLY loosing my mind, I searched all over the place and now I find it, I think the cyber gods are in cahoots to drive me into la la land. Is this the one you recommend then? If so, I am going to buy it and go and have a stiff Martini LOL LOL
Marni

mistermonday
12-29-2007, 01:57 PM
I think you will be pleased with it.
Best Rgds
Murray

Enkay
12-29-2007, 02:35 PM
I think you will be pleased with it.
Best Rgds
Murray

doesnt the samsung i quoted have better stats for a lower price? Screens are confusing the shit out of me... I was going to get a viewsonic and the guy at the store told me I was better off with the samsung.

mistermonday
12-29-2007, 03:02 PM
Enkay, Not all viewsonics are suitable for graphics - but the VP series are. The Samsung may be just as good but I have not tested it. Unfortunately the summary spec sheets don't tell you some of the things you really want to know:
- Can it be calibrated?
- Does it come with Calibration S/W?
- Can you adj the color temperature and if so over what range?
- How accurate are the colors?
I will look around to see if I can find any reviews from graphics community
Regards, Murray

Enkay
12-29-2007, 04:25 PM
Thanks, I would appreciate that as I'm currently quite lost as to which monitor will give me the best value for what I need with the budget I have... Just bought a new camera so the screen budget went down the drain for now haha. I saw a good review for the 19in version of that samsung on a photography website but I have no clue what their credibility is. The viewsonic you suggest seems quite nice as well. I also hear dell makes good monitors. Too much options!

Kevin Connery
12-29-2007, 05:34 PM
doesnt the samsung i quoted have better stats for a lower price? Screens are confusing the shit out of me... I was going to get a viewsonic and the guy at the store told me I was better off with the samsung.
The Samsung 206BW is based around a TN panel which only supports 6-bits of color depth/channel. It fakes 8-bits with hardware dithering. This speeds up the panel's response, but does so at the cost of color accuracy. Great for games; NOT recommended for photographic work.

Enkay
12-29-2007, 05:36 PM
The Samsung 206BW is based around a TN panel which only supports 6-bits of color depth/channel. It fakes 8-bits with hardware dithering. This speeds up the panel's response, but does so at the cost of color accuracy. Great for games; NOT recommended for photographic work.

Haha well that's good to know!

Which one would you recommand then?

Is there also any way to find out about those "hidden" things because on the specs sheet it just says 8 bit depth...

Kevin Connery
12-29-2007, 06:11 PM
I'm out of date in the LCD market (which changes almost hourly!), but there's a nice technical thread about the underpinnings in this hardforum thread (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1039222).

Essentially, you do NOT want TN technology. IPS or S-IPS technology are theoretically best, but the PVA and S-PVA are likely as good in real life. (Samsung's T-series of displays use PVA or S-PVA, for example, and are quite good.)

You can get a fairly current listing of what technology is used for a given display using the tftcentral panelsearch (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/panelsearch_content.htm)--or just enter IPS and see which models use that IPS or S-IPS technology in their panels.

chillin
12-29-2007, 06:22 PM
I just calibrated for the first time the Samsung 216BW. It looks the same as my old Envision (color wise).
"Beware...no tilt with the stand" for the Samsung.