So; here is so far the most retocuhed photo i have ever worked on (througth not the best one):

http://www.altivan.com/RetouchRefake.html

Took like 1 and a half hours. Just put the curser over the image to see the original (you are not going to like the true...)

Any specific critique about the work is welcome.


PD: I am looking for a online part-time job, if interested (i am cheap! xP).

While I think you did a great job, I'm really not a fan of making people look completely different. The before and after girl don't look like the same person. Did you really want to go that far?

The handle bar is a little skewed. You can tell you put a bend in it.

Yes, it was like some of the girls that are only there because they are beautyful (just for call the attention of the viewer); this was just for practice. And is true, i should erase the background so there would be no distortioned bike.

Believe or not i dont like too much make someone completely different, but the market sometimes demand so; so...

I also have some stuff when the person remains the same, like this one:
http://www.altivan.com/retocuch1.html

That other sample looks good. The first one definitely does look great, don't get me wrong. I gues it depends on who the client is. I'd assume (I could be wrong) that if the girl saw that shot, she'd look at it like, "who the heck is that?" But if she's supposed to be a nameless face, it probably doesn't matter. I just can't see taking a portrait of someone for that person, and making her look not like her anymore.

You need to take a good long look at the edges of your selections.

In the first pic (the girl) if you look at her left arm (viewer right) you can still see the outline of where the arm used to be. Also the problem with liquifying like that is that you stretch the background image as well, resulting in a motor looking really odd.

The second pic, if you look at where you blurred the background (the window) again the selection of his arm is... well it can use some work.

In the first pic, I can't really say anything about it. It has a look to it that is catchy.
But I think that you made the mouth to small for her face. Also where you took the waist in on viewers right you have made her to slim and also the hip bone is now to pronounced.
I think that you also made her legs a touch to thin. Here left leg no longer looks like it belongs on that body. Try to cut the slimming in half and just bring out some of the shape with a brush instead.

Chris

You hurt my feelings; joking.
cricket1961; you say a little too much for -can't really say anything about it-; but for real: his face also got smaller so the mouth too, but yeha, looks like i overdo it on the mouth; and now that you say it i maked some kind of hole in the waist.

DJSoulglo; I saw the outline before, but the file was already online; was waiting to get some feedback before fix that, and also erase the distortioned bike. I worked on that window and the arm color, but looks like it wasnt enought.

If you want to see more of my works look at my webpage altivan.com; created by me also; i am still working on the translation of the english version.

I see quite a few areas that are distorted which are clear "giveaways" that the image has been tampered. The biggest being in the gap between her arm on the right ...

Her right hip bone is also very pronounced, which gives the appearance that she is extremely thin. I would also take some time to adjust the area on her right bicep where it meets her breast. The right knee cap area also looks a little awkward. She wasn't obese before so try to use her existing curve lines as a guide when altering her frame.

(you are not going to like the true...)


That's uncalled for. The girl was nice in the original and with a WELL DONE manipulation she could have look perfect and fit with the awful industry without losing her self in the process. That about your words.

Now, the retouch it self it's not professional. Not to mention you blured her up entirely (because every newb does it and also some of the "pro's" lol) but you still managed to left her skin bumpy (now that's a real challenge!)

You have lost control over the the face, it's not even "overdone" anymore it's way more than that. you have no jaw line, no depth in the features.

If the girl is skinny the shape of the arm makes no sense.

The hair... what's that? does any woman like greasy blurry hair? you have done nothing to fix the obvious problems of the original you spent the hour and a half making that girl what YOU think would fit the BIZ

Now, for the constructive part. I know that biz doesn't pay enough to care about the details (I ran through it not long ago ;) ) so it's up to you or you learn a fast way to end the job quick and nicely (degrunge + small liquify + curves & Levels) or you dedicate your self to learning and practice on fashion and beauty (those really pay for your dedication, every minute learning will be compensated)

This image could have been perfect and sexy and I'd love to show you my take on it. Promise not to spend more than an hour on it :)

Then I can give you the step by step of it.

xx

i like it...i think she looks a lot better...the work is pretty good too...there are some minor places as the others have mentioned but overall, i think it looks pretty good :D

i think she look to plastic and unreal after then before! more like a doll than a person

Well; that doll look more sexy than the real girl.

And lets face something, without liquify that girl doesnt get to much improved; her skin or makeup or wathever would not make it.

you dedicate your self to learning and practice on fashion and beauty Im getting on that; through i really suspect that they are not going to hire me ever, at least not if i dont emigrate to a country where the "fashion and beaty" are really an industry.

you have no jaw line, no depth in the features. That is what make her "unreal" like the last guy said.

Im getting on that; through i really suspect that they are not going to hire me ever, at least not if i dont emigrate to a country where the "fashion and beaty" are really an industry.

I'm Located in Argentina (Just by the end of the world you make a right turn... there it is) working full time for photographers mostly from London and NY.

x

Get to it :)

If you retouch it, they will come (lol)

I would agree that the original image isn't very good to begin with. I personally would not have chose it to experiment with.

This is one of those times Ant would say "Just because its better, doesn't mean it looks good" LMAO

I agree with Godmother, the girl retouch is overdone, it is just my opinion, but a good retouch have to look like that was the real shoot and this one is too fake.
The boy retouch is much better but I think it can be better putting same texture back to his face. Here is my quick fix so you see what I mean.:wink:

The idea is good but you copy the original defects and have way to much sharpening; when i read your post i think you was talking about something like the tip 5 named here: http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=209
That is basiclly create skin detail and make the form modifications to mathc the shape of the face.

May be it is too sharpening, for me its look ok. I don’t think I copied all the defects from the original, just some of the original texture using, as you said, the same technique that is described in the tip 5, running highpass and masking everything but some texture in his cheeks.
Anyways it was just and idea.

No problem.
I just retouch a photo from some man, a challenge on this forums, no blur, not even de-grunge:


I am almost a pro... ok maybe not, but getting close.
Critics not just welcome, required.
0% Blur

Before (http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2072/newnogp1.jpg)
After (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8384/yaquedodejedejoderwo8.jpg)
(both links so you can see easily the difference swithching the pages)

Another one of a girl, not so much accuracy like the before (but i give her a brand new teeth with no pain); first try of "de-grunge" technique.

Before (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2952/beautykhu8.jpg)
After (http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3153/beatytw7.jpg)

I am not sure if your only showing your work on her skin and teeth but her teeth look a bit better but still not very good. Her skin looks yellowish to me -- much more so now then in the original. She also has no detail under her eyes, which is fine for maybe a child or young teen but to me it looks awkward in this pic.

And what about the MALE; the quoted part on my another post; in the girl for my the only real problem was the no detail under the eyes.