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AFrazier
04-13-2008, 06:41 PM
Attached are a before and after of my cat, Winston. I've been working for some time on a black and white technique that will hopefully be relatively universal. This is one example of that effort, and I was hoping to get some feedback on the photograph (some opinions on composition), and the quality of the black and white image, as per the developed technique.

Since this is the first thread I'm posting in here, let me say (in accordance with the guidelines), that I have roughly twelve years experience with Photoshop. I've been using it since version 4.0. I've also been into photography for a while. While I'm relatively new to this forum, I'm not new to photo restoration, repair, photography, etc.

The image, prior to the black and white conversion, began with a few touch-ups. I opened the fill lights in camera raw to bring out the details in his fur. I also adjusted the temperature to about 6500°.
In Photoshop proper, I sampled a piece of the wall (Filter-Pattern Maker) and used the patch tool to blot out the majority of the chair in the foreground. I used the Polygonal Lasso Tool along the edge of the window sill on a new layer and filled it with the same pattern (Edit-Fill-Use: Pattern), and tweaked the shadows and highlights until it matched just right (Image-Adjustments-Shadow/Hightlight). The rest I touched up with the healing brush as needed until the image looked clean.

Now, there are lots of ways people have for converting to black and white. This is my version, and I'm posting it here so I can get some feedback on it. Do take a moment to view the images, and by all means, take some time to try the technique on a few images of your own and see how you like it. I've found that it works on most animals, landscapes, oldies photos, portraits, and just about everything else. I find that it even provides a good platform for sepia toning and colorization.

To convert to black and white, I used the following steps (and you can make this an action by clicking on the Window option and the Actions menu to bring up the Actions pane. Then click on the icon to the left of the garbage can at the bottom, which will say "Create New Action" if you run your mouse over it. Click that icon, name the action something like "Black and White Conversion," and select, if you wish, a hot key to run the action from the drop down menu next to where it says "Function Key") ...

01) Begin by going into the Image menu, under the Mode submenu, and convert the photograph to RGB Color if it isn't already on this setting (if, for example, the photograph was made black and white through a Grayscale procedure).

02) Go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select the Channel Mixer. Click on Monochrome. The default values are sufficient for this step. The Preset will read “Custom,” with an Output Channel of “Gray.” Red should be set to +40%, Green to +40%, and Blue to +20%, for a Total of +100%. The Constant is 0%. Click OK.

03) In the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, select Black and White. The Preset you want in the drop down menu of the dialog box is Blue Filter. This will set your Reds, Yellows, and Greens to 0%, and your Cyans, Blues, and Magentas to 110%. Check the Tint checkbox and leave the default values (Hue: 42°, Saturation: 20%). This will change your Preset selection to “Custom.” Click OK.

04) Go back into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select the Black and White option again. This time, the Preset you want in the drop down menu is Maximum Black. All of your colors will have 0% values (Reds, Yellows, Greens, Cyans, Blues, Magentas). Check the Tint checkbox as before, but adjust the Hue to 25° and the Saturation to 10%. Click OK.

05) In the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, select Curves. The Preset you want in the drop down menu of the dialog box is Strong Contrast (RGB). None of the settings will need to be altered. Click OK.

06) In the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, select Brightness/Contrast and increase the Brightness to 20. Do not check the Legacy checkbox (though some may be tempted to do so). Click OK.

07) In the Image menu, under the Mode submenu, select Lab Color to convert the photograph to a different rendering type.

08) Under the Image menu, select Apply Image. When the dialog box comes up, Select Channel “b” and check the Invert checkbox. The blending mode you want to select from the Blending drop down box is Vivid Light, with an Opacity of 5%. Click OK.

09) In the Image menu, under the Mode submenu, select RGB Color to convert the photograph back to RGB color mode.

The final step is to tweak the shadows and highlights.

10a) If you are creating an action, go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select Shadow/Highlight. If the “Show More Options” checkbox is not checked, check it, which will open up the full dialog menu. Under the Shadows section, set your Amount to 20%, the Tonal Width to 50%, and the Radius to 60 px. Under the Highlights section, set your Amount to 20%, the Tonal Width to 50%, and the Radius to 60 px. The Black Clip and White Clip at the bottom under the Adjustments section should be set to 0.01 by default, which is fine. The Color Correction and Midtone Contrast should both be set to 0. If they aren't, set them to 0. Click OK.

If the image is too dark, fine tune by repeating step 10a manually and adjusting the shadows slider 5-15% with the same settings in Tonal Width and Radius (don't make any Highlights adjustments).

10b) If you are not creating an action, go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select Shadow/Highlight. If the “Show More Options” checkbox is not checked, check it, which will open up the full dialog menu. Under the Shadows section, set your Amount to approximately 20-35% (whatever looks just right), the Tonal Width to 50%, and the Radius to 60 px. Under the Highlights section, set your Amount to 20%, the Tonal Width to 50%, and the Radius to 60 px. The Black Clip and White Clip at the bottom under the Adjustments section should be set to 0.01 by default, which is fine. The Color Correction and Midtone Contrast should both be set to 0. If they aren't, set them to 0. Click OK.

That should do the trick.

If you find on some very few photographs that the tint is just a touch too strong, you can go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, select Hue/Saturation, and lower the Saturation until it looks right (though I've only encountered it once).

I'm eager to hear some feedback.

DannyRaphael
04-14-2008, 11:09 AM
Generally speaking this is one of the MOST THOROUGH and well written "how to" posts I've had the pleasure of reading since becoming a RetouchPRO member many years ago. Well done. (Can you hear the applause?) :bow:

Secondly, as one who is a huge BW enthusiast (see this thread:
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/photo-art-101/4769-tutorial-05-converting-color-image-black-white-grayscale-bw.html)

... I was facinated by your method. It's like none other I have seen before. (I will update the noted thread to include a link to this one.)

Great subject (I'm a cat fan) and capture, too. Perfect candidate for conversion to BW.

I really like the results you got, esp. the subtle color tones and the revealed detail from the shadows.

Back to method... As one who doesn't not have the ability to visualize the desired outcome before starting out on a multistep process such as this one, I would be prone to use adjustment layers in steps 02-06 rather than use commands from the Image > Adjustments menu - unless they can be applied to Smart Objects, ground I have yet to cover.

Likewise I'd roll steps 1-6 into a Photoshop action to give me the ability to easily recreate the effect on different images using the default settings and/or tweak settings upon action completion.

Action-wise the Apply Image and Shadow/Highlights steps would present minor challenges. I look forward with experimenting to see how to best integrate/automate these aspects of the process.

Thank you very much for sharing your expertise in this noteworthy contribution to RetouchPRO. I hope we'll be seeing more of your BW methods in the future.

DannyRaphael
04-14-2008, 12:00 PM
It would be helpful, too, if you uploaded the image that was adjusted in ACR and Photoshop beforehand to reveal the detail buried in the shadows. The pre-work done here IMO is as important as the toning effects.

0lBaldy
04-14-2008, 02:25 PM
Danny, That method looks VERY promising!.. It looks GREAT and has lots of depth.. Very Classic.. and I love the tone!
(How 'bout us PS7, PSP users who do not have some of the menu items, any hope?)

AFrazier
04-14-2008, 02:58 PM
I did actually turn those steps into an action. I just hit F5 to convert, and I tweak afterwards if need be. As I said ... thus far I've only run into the need once. An image was already in such a state of contrast that this process, instead of giving it a mild sepia-like tone, turned it rose instead. So I lightened the saturation a bit. And sometimes step 10 requires the shadows to be a little higher than 20% (sometimes as high as 35%) depending on the picture (I'll post one shortly to demonstrate). Outside of that, I haven't really had any problems so far.
One thing I am thinking about that I might want to begin the process with, though, is a conversion to grayscale. That would put any and all images on the same gray balance prior to conversion, making the results a little more uniform.

Here also is the post-adjustment/pre-conversion of the photograph. I didn't even think about that, but you're right. If someone wanted to try it to reproduce the results, it might be nice to give them the final product (color-wise) that I'm displaying.

AFrazier
04-14-2008, 03:06 PM
Many thanks, by the way, for your support and encouragement. Feel free to play with the picture, and the site is welcome to use it if they want to (pre or post correction versions).

AFrazier
04-14-2008, 06:28 PM
This is a sample of a wedding shot I retouched and converted from a cheap grayscale B&W. Because the woman's skin had a dark cast to it, I needed to open the shadows by an additional 15%, as described.

DWThomp
04-14-2008, 06:51 PM
Thank you very much for a great method. As a fan of b&w I'll definitely add this one.

AFrazier
04-14-2008, 07:26 PM
Thank you very much for a great method. As a fan of b&w I'll definitely add this one.

I'll take that as a positive that you like it. :)

Any suggestions on anything that might be a little better (aside from the lab color opacity and shadows adjustment presets in an action)?

AFrazier
04-14-2008, 09:50 PM
Too bad us PS7 users are left out in the cold.. I like the finished look of this process

It can still be done. A lot of the CS3 options and tools are just condensed algorithms of longer processes. Photo filters, for example, can be done the hard way with overlay layers, fills, and opacity.
I still have 7.0 on my computer (I have a bad habit of not deleting old versions of useful programs). I could see if the process (though probably a tad longer) can be achieved through that version. I'll have to play with it.

0lBaldy
04-14-2008, 10:01 PM
It can still be done. A lot of the CS3 options and tools are just condensed algorithms of longer processes. Photo filters, for example, can be done the hard way with overlay layers, fills, and opacity.
I still have 7.0 on my computer (I have a bad habit of not deleting old versions of useful programs). I could see if the process (though probably a tad longer) can be achieved through that version. I'll have to play with it.

That would be wonderful and greatly appreciated! Thanks!

palms1
04-15-2008, 07:11 AM
Danny, That method looks VERY promising!.. It looks GREAT and has lots of depth.. Very Classic.. and I love the tone!
(How 'bout us PS7, Paint Shop Pro users who do not have some of the menu items, any hope?)

I had a quick read through of the tut and i think it can be done in ps7 ( i am sure Danny uses ps7 or he did till recently)
the main one that we dont have in ps7 is the shadow and highlight, at atncentral there is a action for this ( i use sherri's shadow/highlight action, or contrast mask v2 by cspringer this is one of my favorite actions at the moment you can do loads with it )
hope this helps you till Danny gets here with some better info

Palms

Janet Petty
04-15-2008, 07:28 AM
Until the Shadow/Highlight feature, I used a simple solution called a contrast mask. The beauty of this is that the effect can be scaled down and a mask can be applied to cover up the areas one doesn't want changed.

Make a copy of the background.

Invert it (it becomes a negative)

Add a slight Gaussian blur

Change the blend mode to soft light (or something else)

Lower the opacity as necessary and mask as necessary.

The tute mentioned by Danny is GREAT for a richer, more in-depth photo.

I hope this helps.

Janet

DannyRaphael
04-15-2008, 09:43 AM
I moved/consolidated the Q/A posts on this method from the "Nathaniel Photo art thread" into this one.

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For those who don't have CS3 and hence the B&W cmd/adjustment layer, I got "pretty close" using steps 1-2, 5-9 then adding a hue/sat adjustment layer ([x] colorize, 25, 19, 8) and using a contrast mask technique to open up the shadows and another Curves adjustment to fine tune the contrast.

Thanks to all who jumped in to assist our PS7 friends. I went over to the CS3 dark side a couple weeks ago. So far, so good. :)

AFrazier
04-15-2008, 11:27 AM
I'm already working hard on an exact PS7 replica of this CS3 technique. We'll see how close I can get. :) I, too, am recently a PS7 user. CS3 has a lot of fun new features, but PS7 was my bread and butter for a long time. I'm sure I can find a way to duplicate the effects.

AFrazier
04-15-2008, 10:46 PM
To convert to black and white using Photoshop 7.0, I used the following steps (and you can make this an action just as in CS3 by clicking on the Window option and the Actions menu to bring up the Actions pane. Then click on the icon to the left of the garbage can at the bottom, which will say "Create New Action" if you run your mouse over it. Click that icon, name the action something like "Black and White Conversion," and select, if you wish, a hot key to run the action from the drop down menu next to where it says "Function Key") ...

01) This step is the same as CS3. Begin by going into the Image menu, under the Mode submenu, and convert the photograph to RGB Color if it isn't already on this setting (if, for example, the photograph was made black and white through a Grayscale procedure).

02) This step is also the same as CS3. Go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select the Channel Mixer. Click on the Monochrome checkbox at the bottom. The default values will need to be adjusted in PS7 (unlike CS3). The Output Channel will be “Gray.” Red (which will be +100% by default) needs to be set to +40%, Green to +40%, and Blue to +20%. The Constant is 0%. Click OK.

03) Since the “Black and White” option doesn’t exist in some of the earlier Photoshop versions (like 7.0 in this instance), in the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, select Selective Color. Click on the drop down box for Colors. Select “Whites” from the menu. Adjust Cyan to –6% and Yellow +12%. Repeat the process for the “Neutrals” and “Blacks” colors from the Colors drop down menu box. When you’re done, click OK.

04) Again, lacking the filters in CS3 through the “Black and White” option, the Maximum Black with tint has to be simulated through two separate steps. Go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select Hue/Saturation. Leave the Edit mode on Master and adjust the Hue to –30 and the Saturation to –65 (I tried voiding this step … it is actually necessary for the toning). Leave the Lightness at 0. Click OK.

05) Now, go back into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select the Selective Color option again. Select the “Whites” color as before. This time, set your Cyan to +11%, your Magenta to +10%, your Yellow to +12%, and your Black to –16% (leave the “Absolute” radio button checked). Go back into the drop down menu and go to your “Neutrals” color. Set your Cyan to +9%, your Magenta to +9%, your Yellow to +12%, and leave your Black at 0 (again, leave the “Absolute” radio button checked). Go back into the drop down menu and go to your “Blacks” color. Set your Cyan to +11%, your Magenta to +10%, your Yellow to +12%, and your Black to +5% (leave the “Absolute” radio button checked). Click OK.

That should have reproduced the CS3 “Black and White” portion of the process almost identically.

06) Next, go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select Curves. There aren’t any presets in PS7, so the Strong Contrast (RGB) setting from CS3 has to be simulated manually. Create three points on your curve line (besides the two in the corners), then click on the bottom of those three. Down at the bottom of the Curves dialog box, there are two edit boxes (Input and Output). For the bottom of the three points, type in 31 for the Input % and 26 for the Output %. Click on the middle point and type in 41 for the Input % and 40 for the Output %. Click on the uppermost of the three points you created and type in 70 for the Input % and 80 for the Output %. Click OK. (See image 1)

07) In the Image menu, under the Mode submenu, select Lab Color to convert the photograph to a different rendering type.

08) Under the Image menu, select Apply Image. When the dialog box comes up, Select Channel “b” and check the Invert checkbox. The blending mode you want to select from the Blending drop down box is Vivid Light, with an Opacity of 5%. Click OK.

09) In the Image menu, under the Mode submenu, select RGB Color to convert the photograph back to RGB color mode.

The final steps are to tweak the shadows and highlights.

10) In CS3 you can simply use the Shadow/Highlight option, but once again, Curves are going to have to do the trick (which is really all those new tools do anyway … adjust curves). Go back into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select Curves. Again, create three points on the curve line. Click on the bottom most point (of the three, not the corner point). Type in 25 for the Input % and 30 for the Output %. Click on the center most point. Type in 50 for the Input % and 50 for the Output %. Click on the upper most point of the three and type in 75 for the Input % and 70 for the Output %. Click OK. (See image 2)

11) Lastly, since Curves don't bring out the highlights in the image like the Shadows/Highlights option in CS3, you'll need to do that another way. Go into the Layer menu and select Duplicate Layer.

12) Select that layer in your layers dialog box and go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, and select Equalize. Set the layer opacity to 20%. Duplicate the Equalized the layer and set the opacity (of the new duplicated layer) to 15%. Duplicate this layer and set the next new layer opacity to 10%. Then duplicate that new layer and set the layer opacity to 5%. Link all four duplicate layers together and merge them. Then set the Blend mode of the merged layer to Luminosity. Adjust the opacity as desired for the amount of darkness/lightness or detail (I've actually found that 100% opacity, or default, looks about consistent with the CS3 version at this step, if not a touch lighter).

13) When you are satisfied, merge the equalized layer down.

If the image is too dark, fine tune by creating another duplicate layer, Equalizing it as in steps 11 & 12 (without the additional duplicates), set the layer Blend mode to Luminosity, and adjust the layer opacity as desired.

That should do the trick.

If, as before, you find on some very few photographs that the tint is just a touch too strong, you can go into the Image menu, under the Adjustments submenu, select Hue/Saturation, and lower the Saturation until it looks right.

I will say that the results aren’t absolutely identical, but they are darn close. The tinting isn’t quite the same in the PS7 version, but it’s not far off (the CS3 version is still definitely better).

0lBaldy
04-16-2008, 10:27 AM
AFrazier,:bow:
WOW, Thanks for your persistance and hard work on the PS7 version!

DannyRaphael
04-16-2008, 10:32 AM
AFrazier,:bow:
WOW, Thanks for your persistance and hard work on the PS7 version!Ditto... an exceptional contribution top to bottom.

Littlecoo
04-16-2008, 07:02 PM
AFrazier, your technique does a beautiful job on all the images I've tried it on so far. I am impressed with how delicately it brings out fine detail and texture (and dust on negatives lol). I'm a big fan of B&W, and I still shoot and process B&W film when I can, although not much selinium toning tho it is now starting to grow on me, I might play around with it some more- split toning with sepia would look nice in certain images.
It is so refreshing to see monochrome conversion done well- and easily!
I love it :bigthmb:
Thanks for sharing this, mate :bow:

I attached one of the images I was playing with, whilst not the greatest photo in the world, I was interested to see what it would make of the white dove and I was pleased with the results.