I'm very new to Digital Imaging and this is my first post here. I have a B&W image that I want to restore. It belongs to my mother and has been folded up in a drawer for about 50 years. Naturally it has some creases in it and the emulsion has come away in places. When I scanned it, because I couldn't get it very flat the image varies in contrast/brightness.

So any suggestions on where to start would be great.

Do I clone out all the scratches and missing emulsion first? Do I get the contrast/brightness right first for the whole image? Do I have to select parts of the image and try and match the contrast/brightness with adjoining areas?
What are the best tools in I have Photoshop CS to use?

Thanks in advance for you help.

Hi enigmatic,

Welcome to RP!

For pictures like yours, I usually start adjusting tone and contrast followed by scratches and all the rest....

There are many ways to adjust tone and contrast, and, to tell you the truth, I noticed I vary the techniques I use, depending on the picture and on the damage ...

It would be of great help if you could upload the picture, or part of it, so that we could have a look at it...

:wavey:

Hi Flora.....

Thanks for the reply. Hopefully I've attached a small section of the image which shows one of the 'bad folds'.


Colin

I would try a little harder to correct the fold before you scan it. Sometimes a few minutes of work will save you a lot of time and headaches in PS.

Mike

Hi Enigmatic, Mike,


I would try a little harder to correct the fold before you scan it. Sometimes a few minutes of work will save you a lot of time and headaches in PS.

....soooo true!!! :grin:

Enigmatic,

...I didn't think your picture was in such bad conditions ... at least the part you posted.... The 'biggest' job was actually removing the vertical scratch ....

Here is what I did:

Duplicated the BG Layer.
Used the Layer via Copy for the biggest damages (selected, slightly feathered, and copied good parts of the picture, Ctrl+J pasted them on their own Layers, 'V' moved them to cover the worst damages.
Used Clone + Patch Tools for the rest of the damages.
Created Luminosity and Shadow Masks (http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showpost.php?p=66622&postcount=28) , Ctrl+J copied them on their own Layers and 'played' with the blendings (Multiply, Overlay, Soft Light) to give more tone and contrast to the picture.
Finally, I slightly sharpened the image with a very soft Unsharp Mask.

Just let me know if you need more help ..... :wavey:

This is how I would tackle this:
Always scan in color, you will get a lot more information to work with.
Check each color channel to see if one of them looks good, with most of the detail intact. If so, convert it to grayscale and work on that.
Alternatively, you might also try converting to lab mode, and using the luminosity channel , doing the same as above.
I would adjust contrast with levels or curves. Do not use contrast/brightness and don't try to give it the contrast you see in photos nowadays. In my opinion, it ruins the image, produces shadows without details, blown out highlights, and an over all ugly image.
Start the clean up with the healing brush, and whatever you do, don't use the smudge tool!
Oh, I almost forgot, try to have fun.

Flora,
Something about the women's face looks odd. Did you possibly use the right side to replace the left, or is is me?

Hi Vikki,

Flora,
Something about the women's face looks odd. Did you possibly use the right side to replace the left, or is is me?

....Something does look odd .... even though I didn't swap-replace any part of her face .... just her hat and jacket.....

I might have overdone it with the Overlay Layer when increasing the contrast ... I'll go back and try to correct it....

Thanks...

:wavey:

Flora, it looks good - real sharp (as in brilliant-looking), with nice tone and detail. The woman's face isn't as wide as it should be.

Mig

Flora, I think you're right. It looks like the culprit is the contrast.
I adjusted the contrast on the original, using levels. I just made a square selection of a large area on the right side (good area), added a levels adjustment layer, and clicked "auto". This automatically created a mask of the area I selected. I then discarded the mask from the adjustment layer, which applies the adjustment to the entire layer. I then lowered the opacity of the adjustment layer, just a bit.
This still has more contrast than I care for, but I know a lot of people like that.
Having said all that, if you compare the two versions, look at the shadowed areas, especially around the eyes, nose and lips. Your contrast is a lot stronger in those areas, which may be why her face looks different.

And also the standard scanning tip if you have a creased original. Turn it 90 degrees and 180 degrees in the scanner and scan it again. This will change reflection off the cracks and you will get more detail out of it, accumulating the scans and use the best parts.

This is a brilliant tip somewhere else on this forum. Unfortunately I cannot remember who originally contributed it.

Hi all,

Mig

Thak you so much for you comment! :pleased:

Vikki

... I think I found the problems .... too strong localized contrast, first ....
and after swap-replacing the woman's hat, I hadn't erased well the part of her face still attached to it .... ( Gosh .... sometimes I wander what people, not involved in image manipulation, would think reading some of the things we write .... "eliminate/erase distracting bystanders or people .... replace eyes and other parts of the body .. borrowing various parts of the body...make it come alive" .... Adolf Hitler and Victor Frankenstein move over ... please! .. :D )

Vegard

Right!! I've read that brilliant tip many times as well .... and since I too couldn't remember who posted it first, I did a research and 'landed' here (http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28522&postcount=2)

:wavey:

"eliminate/erase distracting bystanders or people .... replace eyes and other parts of the body .. borrowing various parts of the body...make it come alive"

This is scary. You look so nice and normal on the picture, and yet your mind is a sick as mine! :vampire:

Right!! I've read that brilliant tip many times as well .... and since I too couldn't remember who posted it first, I did a research and 'landed' here (http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28522&postcount=2)


No, it isn't that one. I also did a search and was unable to find it, just another one who also was unable to find it, and repeated it! :lol:

I remember reading it right after I has scanned a photo of my mother from 1929, with several typical creases. I wore out the Clone stamp and had to upgrade Photoshop (no spare Clone stamp parts) :rolleyes: And then I read this tip. It may have been at DP Review... no, unable to find it again.

Flora, that looks much better! I'm curious though, why you use that method for toning and contrast.

Regarding the "tip", I know I have recommended that method myself, and it's a good thing to try. It doesn't always work, but when it does, I've gotten some amazing results. It can really cut down on cloning work. It works by changing the light that passes over the cracks. Once you layer these over each other, it cancels it out. Sometimes you can't get it to line up "exactly" but if you line up the damaged areas, and take a snapshot, you can use a history brush to apply just the good parts.

Was this what you remembered?
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8868&postcount=6

Vegard,

This is scary. You look so nice and normal on the picture, and yet your mind is a sick as mine!

Fact is ... not only such talk appears to be very 'normal' here ..... but the usual reactions to it are questions about how to do it in the very best way ..... :D ....

Vikki,

Thanks again for your feedback!

...I'm curious though, why you use that method for toning and contrast.

Actually, I don't .... well not for toning and contrast ... I use it for just a touch of enhancing at the near end of my retouching/restoration work ....

I might try it along the way though ... and, like for this picture, forget to erase it .....

For toning and contrast, beside Levels/Curves, I use mostly Luminosity/Shadow Masks .... playing with Blending and Sharpening ...

:wavey:

P.S. Yes ... It was your post I 'remembered' ... better said.... 'had forgotten' :happy: .... Thanks again for a brilliant Tip.

Firstly let me apologise for the delay in responding....I'm afraid the 'day job' got in the way.

Thanks for all the great advice and I'm amazed at what you've done with this small sample. I've tried previously and not come anywhere close to this standard after quite a few hours of trying.

So I'll take on board all your good advice and go play. This sample was only about 10% of the image so it's going to take me some time. When I get somewhere near your good standards I'll post the results for your comments.

Just out of interest I had trouble viewing the attachments. My firewall doesn't want to let them through so I had to temporarily switch it off....something I'm reluctant to do these days.

Once again thanks

Colin.

Colin, Which firewall are you using? With most of them it's the pop-up ad blocking functionality that interferes with RP. You shouldn't need to turn it off altogether - they are almost all configurable so that you can add retouchpro.com to the "override" or "trusted" list.

I'm using ZoneAlarm Pro. Not sure how to just let RetouchPro attachments through.

Colin

I don't have it myself (I have the free version which doesn't have a problem), but I gather from those who do that you need to:
Make retouchpro.com a trusted site in the Firewall section
Make sure it is listed under the sites in the Privacy section (add it if necessary)
Then go to Privacy -> Site List, select retouchpro, then select options (bottom right of window) and uncheck "Remove Private Header Information"

Was this what you remembered?
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8868&postcount=6

No...? The thing is I am absolutely certain it contained the explanation of your previous post here, "...It works by changing the light that passes over the cracks. Once you layer these over each other, it cancels it out...." and the post you're linking to doesn't contain this explanation. I also think (but am not certain) it was written by a man, someone called S* or W*.

Well, it doesn't matter. Now we've made so much noise about this technique that most members should have caught up on it, which is the most important thing :)

Argh, it reminds me I need to get my scanner to work again :(

Leah....

Thanks for the tips on Zonealarm but I still can't get the attachments unless I turn it off completely. The 'smilies' will come through but no attachments.

Flora...

I've had time to digest all the advice but I'm still a little unsure as to what you did. This is my first attempt at anything like this....

Could you take it a little slower, please? What exactly did you copy to a new layer...selected good bits or bad bits. You then moved them over to cover the damages.....moved what over?

Did you clone largish areas like a new hat for example?

Thxs
Colin

Hmm... are you seeing the thumbnails for the attachments but not the attachments themselves, or are you not seeing even the thumbnails? And what exactly happens if you click on a thumbnail (or a where-a-thumbnail-ought-to-be)? Do you get a blank popup, or no popup at all, or...?

Underneath the words 'attached thumbnail' there is nothing. However, if I move the mouse over to the left of the box underneath the words, a link appears to the attachment, which when I click, opens!!

Colin

Hi Colin,


Could you take it a little slower, please? What exactly did you copy to a new layer...selected good bits or bad bits. You then moved them over to cover the damages.....moved what over?

The technique I used for it, is explained in Katrin Eismann's book "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching" .... If you don't have it, you can read and download this Sample Chapter (http://www.digitalretouch.org/download/retouch_book.PDF) at her site.

The technique is described on Page 5 of this sample chapter under the heading: Hiding Clutter and Distractions.


Did you clone largish areas like a new hat for example?
No .... I usually never clone large areas .....

Please, don't hesitate to contact me, should you need more help on this.

:wavey: