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TylerCruz
04-08-2004, 07:29 PM
Hi,

I'm a photo restorator, but I only do it as a side thing. Right now, I'm busy, but I have a client who needs something done. I'm basically looking to outsource this job. I won't lie - I'm making a profit from this, but still, I know that work isn't easy to come by, and so I'm offering you guys the opporunity to do this job for me for $50. I would pay via PayPal.

I will scan the image for you guys if you are interested. It's a very touch restoration: The photo is in tact, except for the lower left side, which was cut (clean cut) diagonally across. The missing corner/portion is about 9% the size of the entire photograph. The lady wants this to be 'created'. It contains the lower portion of a lady's dress, and whatever else you can 'forsee' in the background.

I pay via PayPal.

You must note this important piece of information: the lady will only be paying if she is satisfied with the work (you may ask why I conduct business like this, but it's a local thing, and a long story). Basically she will probably be satisfied with any decent job - all my customers have been thrilled with the work I give them - they have no idea restoration could be so good.

So, I'm going to be conducting this as a competition - basically whoever submits something I feel as great quality, I will use that one, and show it to her. If she likes it, and pays for it, then I will pay you.

If you feel awkward about this method, please don't try to restore it. To reiterate, I'm very sure that the customer will be happy, as long as the quality is good!

Please reply if you are interested!

Noelf
04-08-2004, 07:48 PM
I would be interested in working on the project, you can send the scan to me at noelf@nomigraphics.com and I'll see what I can do to it.

Or post a link to download the pic from :)

- Noel

TylerCruz
04-08-2004, 07:57 PM
I have scanned it and put it up at:

http://www.movie-vault.com/tpr/corner/corner.psd

It is 2 megs

It is black and white and doesn't need to be coloured, however after you recreate the missing section, you may want to improve the contrasting, etc.

Also please save your PSD, because I will ask for it (layers in tact, etc.) in case the customer wants a tiny change..

Any questions, just ask.

Thanks

TylerCruz
04-10-2004, 12:43 AM
Hi,

To make it easier on you guys, I uploaded the same image, but I cropped and rotated it for you, so you can get to work right away on the image.

http://www.movie-vault.com/tpr/corner/corner2.psd

Vikki
04-10-2004, 07:07 AM
I just want to make a couple of comments about this - just my personal thoughts......
This is quite the "challenge"
I can't tell if you're getting any responses to this, but if a customer presented this to me, I would probably decline the work or suggest a cropped restoration - minus the missing area.

If for some reason I did take the job, the cost to do the request work would be at least $175. You're talking about some major reconstruction here. Not only her dress, but her arm, hand and the background need to be recreated. It needs either some great artwork, or very meticulous cutting and pasting.

Your second post does not really make it any easier, as cropping and rotating were the only easy parts of that fix. If someone were having a hard time with that, they're in for a lot of headaches when they start to tackle the actual restoration.

I'm curious to see the outcome to this. Will you let us know?

Noelf
04-10-2004, 10:29 AM
I am unfortunately not going to be able to complete this one myself.

The amount of work necessary is beyond a 50 dollar fee, especially when it is spec work.

I do appreciate being allowed to try, but I wanted to be straight on it.

- Noel

TylerCruz
04-10-2004, 01:05 PM
No problem guys. I already stated that I was going to profit on this, but my idea was that not everyone manages to get their hand on clients. This is indeed a very difficult restoration, but definitely not the hardest one I've had to do. I appreciate your honesty though.

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 01:44 AM
To Dave,

I lost your email, but I checked my server for the image you uploaded. Quite nice! This is about 80% of the quality I'm looking for. My main concerns are how blurry parts of it is - lower portion of forearm, bottom of laundry, and bottom of skirt (although the skirt is difficult, I know). If you could clean this up by making these parts better, as well as doing a quick bit of cleaning on the top right (good old healing aid time!) then I will probably be using your submission (the only submission I received so far).

Your ground and shadows, lower left is perfect. The only thing I could possibly complain about is the angle - if you notice the shadows in the centre of the two women, you can notice they are going at a different angle.. but I'm just nitpicking now, the lower left is great!

BTW, the TIF you sent me won't open up in Photoshop for me for some reason. It gives me an error about layers and composite data, but I can preview it fine in the windows preview program thing that pops up... could you upload the PSD next time?

To Everyone else:

If you're still interested, I took a little crack at doing this myself, and if you want a head start, you can use the file I have at:

http://www.movie-vault.com/tpr/corner/corner3.psd - if you use this one, I'd only be giving you $45, as I already started on it. You would need to remove the girl as well obviously, but this might help you if you don't know where to start.

Thanks.

Duv
04-11-2004, 10:04 AM
Hi Tyler

I made a few quick corrections and have uploaded again to your server. For some reason it is not allowing me to send PSD. Maybe sending TIFF with layers is causing some grief in Photoshop.
I only took this project on to see what could be done with $50 worth of my time. I realize that others may define their worth differently. To me, I wanted to complete the restore in 1 hour and hopefully at a level that would satisfy the customer. I enjoyed the challenge. It took 1 hour 20 minutes. I've posted it here and would appreciate any feedback.
Should you choose to use this, please make payment as a donation to Retouch PRO.

Cheers
Duv

Flora
04-11-2004, 10:22 AM
Hi Tyler Cruz,

I absolutely agree with Vikki in all the points she made .... and, as you might remember, I work best without "a head start" ... :wink:

Since nobody else has answered, I decided to post the restoration I've done.
Let me know if it could be satisfying for you.

One thing though, since I'm doing this for hobby, should you decide you like my restoration (I've saved the PSD format), I'd like you to make a Donation to RetouchPRO for the amount of money you mentioned.

:wavey:

ExclamPt
04-11-2004, 10:26 AM
How about a "pass the restoration" with proceeds going to RetouchPro?

What if someone takes Duv's or Flora's worthy effort, adds some more effort and passes it on?

If the final version is accepted, the proceeds can benefit us all.

Just a thought.

Flora
04-11-2004, 10:28 AM
Hi Duv,

You must have posted your post while I was writing mine....

I can see we think along the same line!!! :pleased:

Btw. great job! ... quite a challenge, wasn't it?

:wavey:

gland
04-11-2004, 10:37 AM
Flora about how long did the restoration take you? Nice job. I'm afraid at my skill level I'd be making pennies per hour...:)

Flora
04-11-2004, 10:40 AM
How about a "pass the restoration" with proceeds going to RetouchPro?

What if someone takes Duv's or Flora's worthy effort, adds some more effort and passes it on?

If the final version is accepted, the proceeds can benefit us all.

Just a thought.

Not a bad idea for a case like this ... :happy: ... The one drawback I see in it, is that for making it possible you should pass along a 50MB PSD file (such is the size of my final restoration!!!)

:wavey:

Duv
04-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Hi Duv,

You must have posted your post while I was writing mine....

I can see we think along the same line!!! :pleased:

Btw. great job! ... quite a challenge, wasn't it?

:wavey:
As usual Flora, your's is fabulous! Smart move in cropping it down. How much time did you put into it?

Cheers
Duv

Flora
04-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Hi Gary,


Flora about how long did the restoration take you? Nice job.

Thank you very much! ...
I don't know exactly how long it took me to restore this picture since I didn't work on it in one go .... I'm usually very slow ... but being a hobby .... well... I don't mind how long it takes .... ;)

Flora
04-11-2004, 10:54 AM
Hi Duv,

...we seem to keep on "cross-posting" .... :)

Thank you so much for your words!

As for how long it took me.... I'm sure you know by now, from my answer to Gary...

:wavey:

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 12:09 PM
To Everyone,

Duv, are you the one that uploaded the file Dave-corner.tif? I think so - that's why I thought your name was Dave, sorry.

Flora, once again your work sickens me. It's too good. I don't think you know photo restoration at all, but instead use your time machine to travel back in time and take the photo again... that's cheating!

I think I'm going to have to go with Flora on this one. The only thing I can 'complain' about it is that the wall seems to continue off at a different angle after the laundry...

Flora, I'll have my upload program changed to allow PSD uploads in the future, but for now, you could try renaming it to a .jpg, then uploading it. When I download it, I will simply rename it to .psd, and we will see if that works.

Please let me know once you've uploaded it (I receive no confirmation when it's uploaded).

If the client likes it (she will, I'm quite certain) and once I show it to her (should be within this week), I will make the donation to RetouchPRO. Your guys' loyalty to the site is amazing!

Vikki
04-11-2004, 12:21 PM
Duv & Flora, excellent job! I can't imagine how the customer would not be happy with what you've done.

gland
04-11-2004, 12:45 PM
Excellent indeed..:)
I can make the exisiting photo look pretty good but the reconstruction has me somewhat baffled. Looks like Flora borrowed a hand from the lady in the center of the photo.

Duv and Flora do you have any hints on how you did this?

Flora
04-11-2004, 01:02 PM
Tyler Cruz,

thank you for your great comment!!!

You are right about the wall .... I'm going to correct it before uploading the picture.

I'll also save & upload the full size as .JPG .... but you won't get any of the layers in this way....

Vikki,

Thank you so much for your feedback!

Gary

I actually borrowed the whole arm from the other lady ..... I pasted it over the 'missing' one and erased the part of it which covered the original 'stump' ( :o: ) .... I adjusted size, contrast and consistency of the pasted part to fade in the existing one....

:wavey:

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 01:08 PM
Flora,

I actually meant just rename the extention of the PSD file to .jpg so that my upload program will allow you to select it. Then when I get it, I will rename it back to .psd, and it should open fine in Photoshop...

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 01:40 PM
Actually,

I had my upload program updated!

http://www.movie-vault.com/tpr/tpr1.1.zip

It will now allow you to upload PSD files :)

Flora
04-11-2004, 03:17 PM
Hi Tyler Cruz,

...All done .... I'm uploading the 'monster' file/Image (nearly 50MB) to your site as .PSD file ...

It's going very slowly .... soooo .... it'll take a while .... As soon as it's uploaded I'll let you know!

:wavey:

P.S. .... I renamed most of the Layers .... but not all of them ...

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 04:00 PM
Flora,

There's been a bit of trouble - when I had the uploader upgraded to allow PSD's, I didn't know I needed to also update the accompanying data file. I just tried it with the new data file, and it uploads fine. I have no idea where it is being uploaded to if you are using the old one! Lost in Cyberspace somewhere I guess!

So my apologies.. please delete all the old files you downloaded from me, and download http://www.movie-vault.com/tpr/tpr1.1.zip again. I'm logged into my server, so I can see pretty much in real time what you are uploading, but you aren't actually sending it to my server now... try downloading it again.. it should work this time!

Thanks

Flora
04-11-2004, 04:06 PM
Got it!!

No problem .... I just wonder who is receiving a monster file from a perfect stranger!!!!! :lol: :lol:

I'll re-start the procedure just now!!! :pleased:

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 04:07 PM
I think that the programmer that made me the program, when he updated it to allow PSD's, that he tested it by using his own server (which the data file contains information of), and when he sent it back to me, this file came as well, and so my guess is that you were sending to his 'test' server.. which also explains why it probably went slow.

I have a dedicated server, so it should go fairly fast on my server.

Thanks.

Flora
04-11-2004, 04:12 PM
Everything seems to be proceding well and Yes!!! much, much faster!

Please warn your friend that nobody was trying to invade his server!!!! :wink:

Are you receiving it now?

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 04:34 PM
Hi Flora,

Yup, getting it fine - thanks.

[root@trinity Upload]# ls -al
total 44032
drwxr-xr-x 2 photo_upload photo_upload 4096 Apr 11 18:14 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 photo_upload photo_upload 4096 Mar 17 02:15 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 photo_upload photo_upload 17169550 Apr 11 11:55 Dave-corner.tif
-rw-r--r-- 1 photo_upload photo_upload 27848811 Apr 11 18:39 F_corner1.psd
[root@trinity Upload]#

Flora
04-11-2004, 04:55 PM
Hi,

Seems all done now ....

Could you, please, let me know if you got it and if you can open it?

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 05:52 PM
Hi,

I got it, but... ahhh! It says this file isn't compatible with my current version of Photoshop. I have Adobe Photoshop 7.0...

TylerCruz
04-11-2004, 10:15 PM
Perhaps you are using the new CS Photoshop? Would you be able to open it in Photoshop 7 then save it as a PSD 7 file?

Vikki
04-11-2004, 10:25 PM
Why not send a jpg?

TylerCruz
04-12-2004, 01:17 AM
She could... but it's better to send the PSD in case the client ever wanted some small adjustments..

Flora
04-12-2004, 03:52 AM
Hi TylerCruz, Vikki,

Yes, I use Photoshop CS on this computer ....
Even if we hadn't talked about our Photoshop version, before saving the picture to upload, I checked about the 'file compatibility' ....

I've checked the 'Always' in the preferences box asking about 'Maximize file compatibility' .... and I know I didn't use any of the very new features in CS, not yet present in PS7 ....

..... I haven't PS7 installed on this computer .... I'll install it on my other computer and try .....

Downgrade file compatibility...maybe another CS bug????

Flora
04-12-2004, 04:36 AM
All done!

Installed PS7 on the other computer.

Opened the image with it ... (btw ....no problem whatsoever in opening and going through the Layers etc.)

Saved the Image (renaming it to "F7_corner1.psd") with PS7.

...and now I'm uploading it to your server ....

I'll let you know when the upload is completed...

:wavey:

Flora
04-12-2004, 06:00 AM
Upload completed.... :pleased:

Keep my fingers crossed.....

Please, let me know if everything works now....

:wavey:

Vikki
04-12-2004, 07:01 AM
If this fails, I would go with the jpg.
I'm sure if you asked, Flora would be able to fix any minor changes the customer had.
Also, the customer might be happy with the image as is.

ajcutler
04-12-2004, 09:44 AM
Flora:

An absolutely tremendous job of restoring the missing detail! I'm sure the Client will be happy.

Alan

TylerCruz
04-12-2004, 02:26 PM
Downloading it now, I'll let you know if I can open it - thanks!

TylerCruz
04-12-2004, 02:37 PM
Dang... same error! Only a small difference this time: this file shows the preview image when I click on the file in Photoshop.. the other one didn't.

It gives me an error saying it can't read the layer data properly, and gives me the choice of Reading Composite data, which when I do, nothing opens, otherwise Photoshop closes.

I guess I'll just take the JPG - I already wasted so much of your time. At least now we know that both our Photoshop's don't like each other, so if we ever transfer something to one another in the future, we know just to send the JPG.

So yes, please send the JPG, and save it as 12 - highest quality (Of course :) )

Thanks

Flora
04-12-2004, 04:37 PM
Vikki,

...we did have to go for the .JPG ....

Alan,

Thank you very much for your comment ..... I do hope the client will be happy ....for all of us .... :wink:

TylerCruz,

... so sorry it didn't work ......

One dumb question ..... could it depend on the 'upload program'?

Anyway .... uploading the .JPG format .... Uploaded!!!

Please let me know ....

Just let me know if your client would like any change .... or if you found out what the incompatibility problem could be .... and would like to try again ....

:wavey:

TylerCruz
04-12-2004, 04:51 PM
Hi,

Got it - thanks.

Kinda ironic, eh? You upload 100 megs of files, then a 500 KB file ends up being the one used.

You could be right about the upload program. If somebody else tries to send me a PSD file in the future, and it doesn't open for me, then I'll contact the programmer and see why it's doing that.

Thanks. The lady should be coming sometime this week (not sure on exact day), and I'll get back to you in this thread when she does.

Flora
04-12-2004, 05:06 PM
.... You know where to find me .... :wink:

Glad at least this worked!!!

:wavey:

TylerCruz
04-12-2004, 05:36 PM
I phoned her, and there was an unfortunate mix up. I won't get into it, but she sounds nice and I think she will go through with it. I e-mailed her the before and afters so she could look online.

I should receive an answer either today or tomorrow hopefully (I asked her to tell me either way).

Will keep you updated.

Flora
04-12-2004, 05:44 PM
Thanks!!! :)

TylerCruz
04-16-2004, 03:34 AM
No reply from her yet... I'm hoping she's just old and doesn't check her e-mail often... *crosses fingers*

Flora
04-16-2004, 04:04 AM
Hi TylerCruz,

Thanks for the information! :)

TylerCruz
04-17-2004, 04:33 PM
Some good news. I had e-mailed her again to follow up on why she didn't get back to me, and it turns out it was deleted as it was thought to be spam.

So I resent the image. Awaiting again for the answer!

TylerCruz
04-23-2004, 09:36 PM
Hi,

I've tried to get in contact with the lady again, but she refuses to answer me... I'm sorry. I will now require payment UP FRONT from now on.

Duv
04-23-2004, 11:46 PM
Hi Tyler

I'm sure Flora will agree. It was never about the money in the first place. A small contribution to this fabulous site would have been nice but we have all learned something here which is the main thing. Good energy from the start.

Thanks
Dave

TylerCruz
04-23-2004, 11:53 PM
Yes, I realize that, but I'm partly afraid that I have lost my credibility here. I wish there was a way to proove that I didn't just run away with the photo and not pay..

Duv
04-24-2004, 12:01 AM
Never entered my mind Tyler. We always feel a little bad when things goes sideways. It happens to me often.

PLEASE! Have a great weekend. The weather on Vancouver Island is going to be awesome!

Cheers
Dave

Flora
04-24-2004, 12:01 AM
Hi Tyler,

Thanks for letting us know...

As Duv said already, "It was never about the money in the first place." ....

Working with Photoshop is what I just love to do .... and I really enjoyed the challenge .... :happy:

:wavey:

Flora
04-24-2004, 12:07 AM
Yes, I realize that, but I'm partly afraid that I have lost my credibility here. I wish there was a way to proove that I didn't just run away with the photo and not pay..


.... Sorry I hadn't seen this before answering.....

I never thought it for one moment ..... besides .... you definitely wouldn't have 'run' far... :lol:

chris h
04-25-2004, 03:37 PM
Yes, I realize that, but I'm partly afraid that I have lost my credibility here. I wish there was a way to proove that I didn't just run away with the photo and not pay..


Of course there is, just pay the $50 anyway!

T Paul
04-25-2004, 04:26 PM
I agree with Chris. Realistically by hiring out a sub the burden should be on you if the client doesn't pay. Otherwise you do lose credibility.

Just my 2 cents....

~T

Noelf
04-25-2004, 04:53 PM
Just my thoughts. Now knowing that the client hadn't agreed to pay, it does look like you farmed out a job that you didn't want to take the time for knowing you might not be paid for it.

Flora is being nice about it :) If you had chosen something I had worked on, and then didn't pay I wouldn't be as happy :)

Nothing personal at all, just the way I think on it.

- Noel

TylerCruz
04-25-2004, 11:43 PM
When I phoned her and talked to her, she told me she was very interested, and sounded very nice and sure to go through with it. I don't know why she isn't responding to me now.

Noelf - I had posted this BEFORE the mix-up was noted.

Duv - You're in Nanaimo too? Uh oh! Maybe you are the one taking all the restoration clients from the city! Hehe. Do you do any restoration work for clients here?

Noelf
04-26-2004, 12:33 AM
"Noelf - I had posted this BEFORE the mix-up was noted."


I understand what you posted.

The reality was, you offered a job, someone did the job, and for whatever reason you didn't pay for the job. There was never a clause in the offer stating that the person who did the restoral would be paid if your client accepted the job.

You brought up how others might view you on the forum. I stated my opinion on the matter of someone offering a job, and then not paying for the completed job. And from the other comments I would have to say I'm not the only one with these thoughts.

I'm not trying to start an argument, I was just pointing out an opinion.

- Noel

kiska
04-26-2004, 03:32 AM
I agree with Noel and others. You ,in effect, made a contract with Flora to do the work for your client. The work was done to your client's satisfaction. The contract completed. Do the honorable thing and make the donation.

kiska

TylerCruz
04-26-2004, 03:34 AM
Without trying to make myself sound like an ass, please read carefully the original post before you try to come to any conclusion.


You must note this important piece of information: the lady will only be paying if she is satisfied with the work (you may ask why I conduct business like this, but it's a local thing, and a long story). Basically she will probably be satisfied with any decent job - all my customers have been thrilled with the work I give them - they have no idea restoration could be so good.

So, I'm going to be conducting this as a competition - basically whoever submits something I feel as great quality, I will use that one, and show it to her. If she likes it, and pays for it, then I will pay you.


The client never paid for it.

kiska
04-26-2004, 04:23 AM
I stand corrected. However, I was referring to the moral issues here, ethics, not the 'fine print'. My views only.
We disagree. Simply that. And isn't it a wonderful and fortuitous circumstance that we CAN!
kiska

Vikki
04-26-2004, 06:48 AM
you may ask why I conduct business like this, but it's a local thing, and a long story

I'm asking....I'm curious. What's the story?
Maybe I'm jaded, but your "disclaimer" and everything about this job has struck me as odd.
For instance:
When I phoned her and talked to her, she told me she was very interested, and sounded very nice and sure to go through with it. I don't know why she isn't responding to me now.
This doesn't make sense to me. You must have met her, to get the photograph, yet "sounded very nice" implies you never met her.....

Duv
04-26-2004, 08:24 AM
When I phoned her and talked to her, she told me she was very interested, and sounded very nice and sure to go through with it. I don't know why she isn't responding to me now.

Noelf - I had posted this BEFORE the mix-up was noted.

Duv - You're in Nanaimo too? Uh oh! Maybe you are the one taking all the restoration clients from the city! Hehe. Do you do any restoration work for clients here?
Here's what I think. Tyler you're very young, probably still living at home. You're not listed in the Nanaimo phone book nor does Information have a listing for you. Anyone who puts "HeHe" in a communication to me indicates a degree of immaturity. Either you've just got caught with your finger in the cookie jar or you really didn't think things through properly before starting this thread. I'm a little bit embarrassed that this minor brewhaha has emanated from Nanaimo. Personally, I'm not going to visit this thread again. Flora and me and everyone else plays in this exellent forum for the right reasons. I hope you have learned from this experience.

Dave

Juliana Ross
04-26-2004, 08:46 AM
just my two cents, but the responsible and honourable thing to do here would be to suck it up and make the $50 donation to the site.

regardless, the work was done, time and effort were put into it....you solicited it, you are responsible....suck it up and be a man

besides, ripping off artists is really bad karma

and I am damned ashamed to share my nationality with this guy....apologizes on behalf of all the Canadians for the toad.

juliana

Chip Hildreth
04-26-2004, 09:13 AM
This has been an interesting thread to watch, The turn it has taken is disappointing. I think Dave has a pretty fair read on the situation and I agree in general that this has been a lesson in how not to do business. ...actually, a fairly inexpensive one. I've cost myself hundreds of dollars and countless hours of work with my own poor judgement and mis-understanding... many times.
Flora, in my opinion, has sailed through this like the champion I think we all know her to be.

TylerCruz, at least three people did work on your behalf... your integrity IS in question for many people here and there really is no way to redeem it without stepping up and making the full $50.00 donation.
I don't believe you got paid and then kept the $50.00 for yourself. I believe you probably mis-understood the client's committment and farmed out a job you didn't actually have. That's a mistake and a lesson in business.
To maintain your integrity, you have to pay for that mistake. To me, the choice is, your honour among your RetouchPRO colleagues... AND YOURSELF, or $50.00. That should be an easy decision for anyone; trust and integrity are priceless, $50.00 is a couple of tanks of gas.

Juliana Ross
04-26-2004, 09:28 AM
darn I broke the rules and flamed lightly

sorry everyone, and in penance I went and made a donation for ten buck(since I can step up and own what I must)

TylerCruz
04-26-2004, 01:36 PM
Wow. Simply, wow. It's The Crucible all over again.

I shall not ever step foot here again. Mods, you may delete me from this forum.

Juliana Ross
04-26-2004, 02:04 PM
wow, way to abdicate responsibility....this sure did not look like the scene from "The Lottery" to me ( to trade literary reference ) :)

**chuckles evilly** and refrains from further infractions which might compell me to empty my bank account

Juliana Ross
04-26-2004, 03:14 PM
uhm.....i looked at all this guys previous posts.....

i found that he asked for "help" on another image ....the results of which appear on his online portfolio page......

busted!

chris h
04-26-2004, 03:38 PM
TylerCruz come back, you've kept me amused for the past 3 weeks!

Chip Hildreth
04-26-2004, 04:11 PM
[QUOTE=Juliana Ross]darn I broke the rules and flamed lightly

Ahh, more of a light bun warming than a flame.



Oh, and please don't apologize for sharing someone's nationality. I'm American, and there ain't enough space on Doug's server to hold all the apologies I'd have to make!

Rexx
04-26-2004, 11:32 PM
uhm.....i looked at all this guys previous posts.....

i found that he asked for "help" on another image ....the results of which appear on his online portfolio page......
I don't agree. Flora's version was much better. Hers was even in tone. His is splotched. I believe the one on his page is done by himself. And getting help to learn a technique is perfectly valid.

So let's not execute him for a crime he didn't commit! :)

Flora
04-27-2004, 05:31 AM
Hi everybody,

... first of all, thank you very much for all the kind words that have been said about me in this Thread!

For all Tyler might have done wrong, which, in my opinion, is mostly due to immaturity (as it has been already pointed out), I'd like to 'clear' him of the doubt that he might have used my restoration for his Website Portfolio .... He did NOT! It's his restoration.

Just to finish on a happy note .... I do hope he got to that result by following my 'step-by-step' description.... it took me quite a while to write it down... :D ...

:wavey:

gland
04-27-2004, 08:29 AM
I think it's time to put this thread to rest...:)

Juliana Ross
04-27-2004, 09:30 AM
before you close it...

I stand corrected, and apologize for my error :)

(makes note to stop looking at stuff on the POS workstation)

Chip Hildreth
04-27-2004, 10:25 AM
Agreed, should be put to rest with respect to TylerCruz who has probably suffered plenty at this point. The subject of work for hire through RetouchPRO however, should maybe get a more objective treatment without it having to be at someone's personal expense.

One reason I say that is, as soon as this thread was initiated, it occurred to me that I know someone who could benefit from the skill and generosity available in this group. It's a local county museum curator who has both documents and photos in need of restoration or digital conservation. I haven't figured out how he could tap into RetouchPRO for some help but he does have a budget. It's a small budget which would not cover professionally contracted restoration but it could possibly help pay for RetouchPro by way of members doing work for donations sort of like Flora intended.
Keep in mind that I'm thinking here, not arranging a project... I've only mentioned it to him once and that was casual.
It would be worthwhile to explore this sort of concept though, in a non-specific way just to see what ideas pop-up. It might lead to a source of funding to RetouchPRO.

I hope I didn't just step in...

Doug Nelson
04-27-2004, 10:34 AM
I'm not comfortable acting as a broker, but we do have a classifieds forum for just this kind of thing.

Dinagaran
07-26-2004, 04:38 AM
Sir,
I am working 4 Kodak digital lab in chennai, India. I like to work with u. I'am having Five year's Experience in Adobe Photoshop works.

More experience in...

Photo Retouching works
Black & white to color works
Damaged photo's Altering works & all occassions creative, templete works.
And iam ready to work with u and T&C also.
Send ur jobs to my mailid

Please contact my E-mail ID: sreegopi@dishnetdsl.net


Here with i have attached my samples....

Send ur reply ASAP.

A.Dinagaran
India

rondon
07-26-2004, 09:17 PM
You're a little late with your bid there AD but you get my vote.

Dinagaran
07-27-2004, 02:15 AM
Sir,
I am working 4 Kodak digital lab in chennai, India. I like to
work
with u. I'am having Five year's Experience in Adobe Photoshop works.

More experience in...

Photo Retouching works
Black & white to color works
Damaged photo's Altering works & all occassions creative, templete
works.
And iam ready to work with u and T&C also.
Send ur jobs to my mailid

Please contact my E-mail ID: sreegopi@dishnetdsl.net

Here with i have attached my samples....

Send ur reply ASAP.

A.Dinagaran
India

Dinagaran
07-27-2004, 06:44 AM
Hai rondon,
I got your mail. Thank you. How can i get your jobs. please sent the information.

Email ID: sreegopi@dishnetdsl.net

F64jms
09-22-2004, 03:47 PM
I could add a hand also

saby
09-23-2004, 02:21 AM
I just want to make a couple of comments about this - just my personal thoughts......
This is quite the "challenge"


Hi All!

this is very good picture for a mini challenge

saby

Steve Taylor
09-25-2004, 04:49 AM
Wow. Simply, wow. It's The Crucible all over again.

I shall not ever step foot here again. Mods, you may delete me from this forum.

Fifty bucks says he shows up again under a different name. :tongue:

Dinagaran
09-27-2004, 06:34 AM
Hai,

Iam finished your mini challenge. how is it.
How to get your jobs.

This site file size only accepted 100k.b, so . please visit 500k.b file on your mail.(dnelson@retouchpro.com)

100k.b file also attached with mail.

My mailid: sreegopi@dishnetdsl.net
I am waiting for you.

Duv
09-27-2004, 08:32 AM
Hi Dinagaran

Not a bad restore. Just a couple of comments. Colorizing is a different skill set. I don' t think the colors are plausible and you should look for links and tutorials on producing more accurate skin tones. On the woman's "borrowed" arm, you need to change the lighting on it. Also, the way you have done the dress, she looks like she is floating in the air.

Good Luck!

Dave

Flora
09-27-2004, 10:55 AM
Hi Dinagaran,

I think your work is very good ....

I agree with Dave about the colours and the Lady in blue with no feet ....

Unfortunately, the person who offered this job is not at RetouchPRO any more so, this job offer is no longer available ....Sorry about that .....

Good luck from me too...

:wavey:

kishroegiduturi
11-16-2004, 07:20 AM
Mr Dinagaran, your restoration looks ok, but you need to improve. It looks that you are at a very infancy stage when it comes to coloring. You claim that you have 5 years experience in photoshop works. The colors don't look good. Anyway you should gain much experience in terms of quality (not years) in order to get overseas orders.

jim1971
05-01-2005, 04:59 PM
have you written any tutorials on reconstructing body parts? you should!! the lady on the left thats ripped in half ,the job you did recreating the hand is just incrediable. every time i try that it looks artificial and end up just cropping out that area..didnt realize how much more i have to learn about this art. but ive come this far, i cant stop now

prbp
05-03-2005, 08:28 PM
Hi,

I would be interested in the work at a little less than the $50 you have said

We do bulk work hence can you let me know the quantity & the best rates you can give

PRB

Dinagaran
05-29-2005, 10:44 PM
Hi,
Sorry for the late reply, because i was sick.

Now iam ready to do your job. Please reply me.


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Hi,

I would be interested in the work at a little less than the $50 you have said

We do bulk work hence can you let me know the quantity & the best rates you can give

PRB

nicks
05-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Hello,

I am new to the forum, I am working as a freelance photo restorer & do bulk work of photo restoration & retouching at fix price.

This is wonderful forum and the particular thread is superb.

I just joined and was looking each category of the forum.. and here in this category I found this thread with 5 rating and start reading it... I read the whole thread and at last I learn something, which I wanna mention here... But before that Flora your work is excellent and after looking at your reply I found you very generous person.. you are gr8.

Ok Now I learn following things.

1. Don't ever work without at least 50% advance payment.
2. Don't send .psd file for approval.
3. Even don't send the high resolution (printable) .jpg file until you get confirmation of payment.
4. Clear your terms to client before order and at least charge some minimum amount even if client don't like the work, after all time is money.
5. Be generous like Flora..
6. And the most important ask for help of kind members of this forum if you get stucked ...... :)


Well, I have only one question for now to ask is, Can I use the photos available in this forum as a challenge to use for my site with my own restoration for sample purpose ( I will restore it again )??? Also let me know how to get snaps to use for samples?

What I m doing right now to get more samples is, I have offered "pay whatever your want" for any kind of photo restoration, retouching work if client allowed me to put photos on my site...

I have just start my site its right now on geocities.. and what work I have done before ( when I didn't have site ), I don't have contact details of them to take permission to put their restored photos on my site...

So, Here I would like to let the clients know that ... You can send me your work and allow me to use it & you can pay whatever you want.

please review my work here http://www.geocities.com/kandy_gr8/ ... please give me feedback about my quality of work. I want more difficult restoration to put on my site...

I hope the members will help me...

Thank you.

- Nik..

glotus
10-22-2005, 09:10 AM
Dear sir,


i am agree to you, you can send me files i will try to do. i am working as
restoration from last four years. so please send files to me for work
awaiting for you reply my mail id is girish.mundanthara@gmail.com

giri

RooB
10-23-2005, 01:27 PM
Don't ever work without at least 50% advance payment.


I use the same business method the original poster uses myself, with a minor difference-- I do the work first, if the customer is not happy with the results they owe me nothing. However, what they do not get is a high resolution final for the approval. Once the job is complete, I send them a lower resolution proof with a branded watermark. If they approve the proof then I accept the payment, and once cleared, I return the full resolution file. Yet never the layers.

Usually, when someone sees the restoration and knows they can't use the proof because of the branding, they'll pay for the final because they really do want the picture, but if you give someone the final result and a chance, many will not pay.