View Full Version : Newbie to restoration needs help with red flares bobsquarepants 07-24-2004, 07:38 PM Hi all...what a great site this is! I have a photo here that must have been end of the roll or the camera had light leaks, I am not sure what the proper term of this problem is. Can someone point me in the right direction of a good tutorial on how to correct this image.
Thanks!
Darcy Gary Richardson 07-25-2004, 01:20 AM Hi Bob, have had a play with your image, it's a beauty. Not only does it have the obvious red flares, but also areas of totally different contrast and tone. I post my attempt, which is far from satisfactory, but the best I can do without spending hours on it. Hi Darcy
Gary did what I think is a pretty good job. I hope he posts his methodology. I'm sure it will help you in your efforts.
One excellent resource is Katrin Eismann's book "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching". It has extensive sections dealing with this type of problem.
Cheers
Dave bobsquarepants 07-25-2004, 10:15 AM Thanks for having a go at my pic, Gary did a great job in cleaning up the flare. I would like to know what the basic process was that you took, and thanks for pointing me to book Duv, I will see if I get a copy on Amazon. Gary Richardson 07-25-2004, 10:59 AM Hi Bob, it's a bit difficult to say exactly what I did, as I mucked about with it quite a bit, and remembering exactly what is not possible. However, I will give you the processes as far as I can remember them.
1. Copied Background (I always do this to preserve original for reference and to return to if I muck up too badly).
2. Selected top 1/3rd of image using marquee tool and feathered selection.
Adjusted tone and contrast using levels (adjusted R,G and B channels seperately)
3. Could'nt get a good result colour correcting strong red flare at bottom, so painted in colour taken from good grass area. (new layer set to colour blend)
4. Created other colour layers and painted in colour to clothing, skin and brickwork. ( blurred where appropriate with gaussian blur, adjusted opacity of layers for best effect).
5. When basic colouring looked something like I flattened image.
6. Created new layer set to soft light blend and 50% grey. Painted in darkness using soft black paintbrush set to 5%, lightness using soft white paintbrush set to 5%.
These are most of the main stages, there was other fine tweaking, but it was mostly judged by eye. I have to say at this stage that I'm not really satisfied with the grass area, and when I've got time I intend to try and improve it.
There are undoubtedly better ways to do this, this just happened to be the way I attempted it.
Hope this helps you with your own attempt.
ps. Also cropped image top and bottom, this was the easiest way to get rid of the strong flare at the top. Hi Darcy
As Gary alluded to, there are many different ways of getting to where you want to go in PS.
I focused a bit on the grass. If you know about channels, the blue looks pretty good. The red sucks bad. Try rought selecting ( 4-5 pixel) the red flare area. select the red channel. Go to curves and severly warp it to maike the selection black. Click on blue channel. Copy and Paste Into red channel. It should look pretty good. Go back to the RGB channel. The right part of the grass should still have pretty good original info. Go to Filters: Pattern Maker and make a pattern of good grass. Save as Good Grass and cancel. Change your Clone Tool to Stamp and with a moderate paint brush set to Color, paint over lighter less defined areas of grass. Then go to Filters: Other: High Pass: Set to 10. Click OK. Go to Edit: Fade: Change to Overlay and adjust slider to get desired results. This may be a tad confusing. Questions, just ask.
Cheers
Dave Hi Darcy
u just need the bush tool only set it to mode: color, get color from the grass and paint whit it try to make it more realistic to chanege brush op. 16% at mode: luminosity and same sample have fun!
saby bobsquarepants 07-26-2004, 04:48 AM Thanks for your help everyone...I have got a good starting point, and hopefully if i get some time this week I can try all of this out and hopefully post my results!
D. Flora 07-27-2004, 07:03 PM Hi Darcy,
Welcome to RP! :pleased:
I had a go to your picture as well... I used two Hue&Saturation Adjustment Layers to correct and slightly desaturate the 'Reds' and the 'Magentas' .... after that I did pretty much what everybody else did:
Created Emtpy Layers (Blending=Color), sampled 'good' colour from surrounding areas and, using a soft brush, painted the discoloured areas with it.
Created Emtpy Layers (Blending=Overlay, Multiply) and, with a soft black brush I painted over the faded parts to enhance them.
Slightly sharpened the picture using USM.
:wavey: Flora
When I grow up, I wanna be jus like you!
Cheers
Dave
ps. Except in a guy sort of way. JustChecking 07-28-2004, 01:50 PM Flora, that's awesome! I could just copy/paste here what Duv said ;-)
btw, hi, i don't think we have met yet :-) Flora 07-28-2004, 04:07 PM Dave, JustChecking,
....thank you so much for your great comments! :pleased:
Dave,
ps. Except in a guy sort of way....
:D :D :D
JustChecking,
Hi! ... Now we have met .... glad you joined RP!
:wavey: JustChecking 07-29-2004, 06:22 AM JustChecking,
Hi! ... Now we have met .... glad you joined RP!
:wavey:
i'm also glad.. it's a great place full of great people... like you ;)
:wavey: bobsquarepants 07-29-2004, 02:47 PM Well finally got some time to try everyone's suggestions and here is a copy of the final product. I am really happy with the results, compared to the original.
Thanks again everyone for your help!!!!
Darcy Flora 07-29-2004, 02:52 PM Hi Darcy,
..What a great result!!! :bigthmb:
Just one small thing...the top of grandpa's shirt is still a bit more magenta than the rest of it ....
:wavey: bobsquarepants 07-29-2004, 03:25 PM Thanks...i notice a bit on the grey brick. Should be no problem to get that out.
Can someone point me to a good link in fixing up glare or reflection in glasses? Ive got another pic to fix up here.
D. Flora 07-29-2004, 04:10 PM From Katrin Eismann's book, you can find the part about removing glare from glasses here (http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=31701&seqNum=4).
Just scroll down the page to the 'Removing Reflections in Glasses' part ....
:wavey: bobsquarepants 07-29-2004, 04:49 PM Thanks Flora...I have the book on order...should be here tomorrow! :) Mosha 07-29-2004, 06:33 PM Dave quote:
"select the red channel. Go to curves and severly warp it to maike the selection black. Click on blue channel. Copy and Paste Into red channel. It should look pretty good. Go back to the RGB channel".
I'm trying to learn as much as I can, but have never worked with channels, so I do not know how to follow the above instructions, can you please elaborate a little more?, where should I click to select the blue channel and how do you copy/paste into any channel....and perhaps recomend a good tutorial about channels, I've seen that they are a powerfull tool in restoration.
Thanks Flora 07-29-2004, 07:26 PM Hi Mosha,
You can get to the Channels by clicking on the 'Channels' tab. (Figure 1)
Once in the Channels Palette (Figure 2), you can choose and work on each individual Channel by simply clicking on it. (Figure 3)
To copy one whole Channel into another press Ctrl+A to select it, then Ctrl+C to copy and, finally, activate (click on) the (bad) channel you want to replace and press Ctrl+V to paste the copied (good) Channel into the bad one.
Use the same procedure to copy and paste only parts of a Channel into another.. Select the good part with the Lasso or any other selction Tool, Ctrl+C to copy your selection and, activate (click on) the channel with the bad part you want to replace and press Ctrl+V to paste the copied (good) selection into the bad one.
Hope this helped.
:wavey: Mosha 07-29-2004, 09:23 PM Flora....You should be "Angel" instead... Gary Richardson 07-30-2004, 12:43 AM Nice job Bob, if I'm a bit late on this one, its 7.45 am here. You had'nt posted when I looked yesterday. Don Majoros 07-31-2004, 11:35 AM Flora simply beautiful.I read your explanation and could follow all but creating empty layers.You noted 2 empty layers.
Created Empty Layers (Blending=Overlay, Multiply) and, with a soft black brush I painted over the faded parts to enhance them.
Do you mean one on top of each other? Flora 07-31-2004, 11:51 AM Hi Don,
Thak you so much for your kindness!!! :pleased:
Do you mean one on top of each other?
Whenever I work on a picture and wish to emphasize something, I create 'empty Layers' (Overlay or whatever other blending I think necessary), which can be on top of each other or scattered among the other correction Layers.... Sometimes I need to 'merge visible' before adding new 'empty Layers'.
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