As a result of a brilliant suggestion I just got, the CHALLENGE on this one is to use your BEST and most creative techniques to convert this one to any type of grayscale (aka: "black and white") you like.

You don't need to apply filters or plugins, but you may, as long as the final result consists of black, white and shades of gray. No color.

Wanna merge this with other images? Sure.

Replace the background? Sure.

Good luck and have fun.

~Danny~

Black and White and Gray
Here tis, OK.

Janet

Janet that is lovely!

Cleaned up noise
Ran the action
Touchups

This is not a very good photo to properly show the usefulness of the included action. A photo with more color variation works best. The action is very sensitive to small slider movements--especially in combination. It allows for an infinite number of pseudo-filters; ie: red, orange, green, etc...in several shades.

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Hi,this is my first post :-)
Here is my try using virtual photographer

Great results everyone and welcome along Nansi, looking forward to viewing more of your creations. :bigthmb:

Paint Shop Pro.8.1

Auto Contrast Enhancement
Desaturated to gray
Edge Preserving Smooth - 3
Duped bottom layer twice
L2 - Soft Light
Merged bottom two layers.
Top Layer - Levels/My High Key White setting.

On this same layer used the eraser throughout using
Dry Brush for her hair, default brush on her skin and to bring
back some highlights for her features.
For interest, added some texture to her straps and dress using
Van Gogh Texture along with a Camel Hair Brush low opacity.

Smudged skin entirely.

Merged all - duped bottom layer
L2 - Hard Light - 16% - Duped this layer
L3 - Multiply 30%
Merged these layers.

Lessened Brightness slightly.

Applied a criss-cross texture.

Thoroughly enjoyed this challenge and thanks for the wonderful photo!

Sidis, Nanci, and Neve, you have all done a wonderful job. Each is unique and each is distinctive. Very nice all.

Janet

First ran Neat Image. Channel Mixer set to Monochrome. Curves Adjustment layer (see attached). Ran Cartoon action.

Cheers
Dave

Mine is perhaps too simplistic compared to the great work posted so far. (Yours too Nanci - welcome :wavey: ) But it is my best sketch outline technique.

1. Resize & Decolored the image w/ channel mixer (mostly using red)
2. NeatImage to smooth everying out
3. HighPass 3.5 then Sketch>TornEdges 25/7/10.
4. Add layer mask to touch up rough spots. (esp. lips & eyes)
5. Put a light gray fill layer below the sketch
6. Add a fill layer of WashedWaterColorPaper. (Overlay, 62%)

-Mark

Oh...I love that Duv!!! Well done Mark too....I bet when you invert that it'll look like a chalk sketch. :wavey:

Thanks a bunch Janet. Great challenge isn't it...?

Very nice work, all.
First, using image-calculations and combinations which best suited me, for the b&w image. Then, used burn and dodge tools, also black, white and shades of gray paint, and finally difference blend with the orig b&w layer.

:bow: That's a beauty alright Jaykita....! Wonderful to view.

Nansi-nice crop.
Janet-like your 'painting'
Jaykita- wow.

I used channel mixer to get bw. Semi-glamour retouch, feivel's glow,both.

kiska

I just love all these different ways to do black and white images.

Duplicated background
Converted to b/w
Duplicated b/w layer 2 times.
Bottom layer chalkaholic then motion blur 90 deg
Next layer chalkaholic then motion blur 45 deg - overlay mode
Top layer Xero line art and buzz spread black - multiply mode.

Christine

Hi Danny,

Here's my attempt.

I did a bit of touchup work just to smooth the skin tones and duplicated the Layer.

I Blurred the top Layer and merged the two to create a soft focus effect. I then used two Hue/Saturation Layers to convert to B/W. I Created a composite Layer above these and used a Diffuse Glow filter effect and then a white to transparent Gradient. I also did a bit of dodging and burning to darken the lips and lighten the strap at the back of the dress a bit.

Regards

Con Looymans

Interesting challenge, Danny. Who needs colours anyway?

While I was doing this Con posted something similar, but Í got there by a different way...
Cropped, 10 min Toolkit (http://www.retouchpro.com/resources/fileinfo.php?id=40), High-Key, Smudge painting, Levels and vignette.

Rô

beacuse of the filesize limit.
I finally got around to playing with Bitmap mode.
This is three layers of greyscaled images, each switched to Bitmap mode in a different manner, and then back to greyscale.
To get a good image, though, you need 300 ppi, minimum.

I added a detail. I'm not sure if it's from the same version, though. Sorry.

beacuse of the filesize limit......To get a good image, though, you need 300 ppi, minimum.
A little work-around is to also post just a small part of the image - but this at full resolution, so that we can at least get an idea of how it looks.

Here's a pencil sketch (http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showpost.php?p=73226&postcount=69), tweaked and with a aniso'd outline added.
Rô

Here I used some layer masks.

Smooth skin, dodge, dodge, dodge, diffuse glow.

Hi,this is my first post :-)
Here is my try using virtual photographer

Nansi:

I'm glad you found us. Welcome aboard!

The Virtual Photographer plugin has SO MANY cool options it's hard to figure out which ones to use. (Click HERE (http://www.optikvervelabs.com/default.asp) to download VP.)

I like what you've done here. Keep 'em coming. :bigthmb:

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jaykita:

You've nearly outdone yourself (again). That's an exceptional look you achieved.

A+

~Danny~

Hi Danny, not usually my bag, but thought I'd have a go for a change.

Extracted Pamela and pasted to another pic. Desaturated, both layers, played with levels. Created new layer, played with levels and find edges filter. Finally adjusted opacity of top layer.

I don't even remember what I did here, but I like it!

-Jeff

Hi Danny, not usually my bag, but thought I'd have a go for a change.

Hey, Gary...

Glad you gave it a go -- just for something different. Stop back in any time! :)

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Jeff:

A good one anyway despite the memory lapse! (LOL)

~Danny~

For those who have the Virtual Painter plugin, notice the results when you apply either the Collage or Drawing filters: Bold black lines against funky colors.

If you set the foreground color to black, Select > Color Range will make a selection of these black lines which can be isolated onto a separate layer via Ctrl + J.

I applied Photoshop's Find Edges filter to another copy of the background, converted the Find Edges layer to grayscale (Ctrl + Shift + U) and applied Image > Adjustment > Levels to get rid of most of the midtone grays. I painted white here and there to clean it up.

The three layers (VP Collage lines, VP Drawing lines and Find Edges) were merged into a single layer... black lines on a white background.

I went to the Channels palette, Ctrl + clicked on the RGB channel to load the selection (marching ants).

Back to the Layers Palette, Select > Inverse (to select the lines).

Ctrl + J isolated the lines onto a separate layer. Below this layer I added a new layer, filled with white (for a background).

Back to the merged lines layer, I fiddled with Layer Style effects and settled on a modest Drop Shadow.

Different for me, anyway...

~Danny~

Just so clever Danny, what a great result!

Very much inspired by Jaykita's effort, I desaturated image then lightened via Curves. Opened in Painter for cloning.

Conte/Dull Conte 8/Hair
Blenders/Grainy Blender 20/Hair (Yes...I was listening Danny :happy: )
Oils/Medium Bristles Oil/Eyebrows
Conte/Dull Conte 8/Facial outlines

Saved and opened in Paint Shop Pro

Duped bottom layer – L2 Soft Light 50%
Merged. Duped bottom layer.

L2 – Flaming Pear Ghost/This gives a blacker outline.
Merged.

I cannot draw to save myself and drawing a straight line even worse. I enjoyed it all irrespective.

Thats excellent Danny, looks as if the black lines are floating above the surface. Have to make a note of this one...

Christine

I did something similar Danny by placing a new layer above original image and drawing an outline. Then filled the bottom image layer with a colour. Back to outline and selected, adding a drop shadow. I used the default paintbrush in Paint Shop Pro at 5 pixels for this terrible example of my wobbly lines... :lmao: Using Bladepro on the outlines would give excellent effects.

I did something similar Danny by placing a new layer above original image and drawing an outline. Then filled the bottom image layer with a colour. Back to outline and selected, adding a drop shadow. I used the default paintbrush in Paint Shop Pro at 5 pixels for this terrible example of my wobbly lines... :lmao: Using Bladepro on the outlines would give excellent effects.

Neve: These last two are great. The "from the center-out" gradient on the second one is especially effective.

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Christine...

Glad you liked another of my "happy accidents," that resulted from experimenting with no particular destination in mind. :wavey:

First I converted her to BW with Fred Miranda's BW Workflow Pro using the high contrast filter, then I took it into Painter 8 used Lighting effects with a single spot. Back into Photoshop hue saturation to brighten eyes a little, added empty layer touched up hair with clone tool & healing brush, added another empty layer changed the mode to soft light painted with a black brush at 10% opacity to darken shadows a little more, added a levels adjustment layer moved black slider to 38 with a tiny brush at 20% opacity outlined eyes, darkened eye shadow, emphasized eyelashes, darkened corners. Added another layer to smooth skin and parts of hair, then used Photokit Sharpener to slightly sharpen eyes and eyebrows, nose and lips. Voila. What fun.

Vicki

Such a variety of great results!
Here's a pencil sketch with corel photopaint.

This has become quite a popular thread. I can certainly see why. I love the variations and differences we all have. The work is stunning.

I wasn't happy with my first one. It didn't quite turn out like I had planned. This one is much more my style. It was done with a variety of layers, all of them with one setting or another of the Filter>Stylize>Trace Contour. Each layer was inverted and the lines were either minimized or maximized according to whimsy.

Janet

COOL Janet! How have I missed 'trace contour'?????

hard to explain.

Playing with the layer mask of a smart blur-edges over a copy again, and ran the Torn Edges filter over what I had already painted in the layer mask, and voila! Decided to desaturate it and like it.

Looked at Jaykita's great work and tried to paint in her cheekbones shadowing -- mine just looked like she smudged her face with soot ;) !

Lots of creativity going on -- great to look at all the different variations!

Thanks, Janet, I'd forgotten about contours.

I had made a little action for tracing contours. It was fun to do, but then I couldn't find anything useful to do with it.
So maybe this is the right place.

Rô

...Voila. What fun. Vicki

Hi Vicki...

Glad you had fun.

This is a terrific first pic (and writeup) in the Photo-art forum. Congratulations. I hope we'll be seeing more of your work in the future.

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CJ, Ro, Glikster, Janet, jaykita... You guys *ROCK*!

~Danny~

Help! Somebody stop me!!
_______________
Janet was my inspiration on this one. Thanks, Janet.

my first attempt... :happy:

And a great first attempt it is too. Welcome to the forum Nkollias.

Ohhh, Jaykita and Byro, I like your interpretations ever so much.

Janet

Well, Uncle Danny, this has been a feeding frenzy.
I guess all us lost souls crave direction and discipline.

kiska

I'm still hungry! :devious:

Art history, aniso'd outline, watercolour, lighting effects, kitchen sink..... :dizzy:
Rô

Well, Uncle Danny, this has been a feeding frenzy. I guess all us lost souls crave direction and discipline.
Credit goes to the very inventive member who suggested this twist via the "lurker" thread. :)

It just goes to show I should ask for ideas more often. :)

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To create this little 4-up interpretation I got to messing with some Photoshop filters (identified in the pic) that I don't usually tinker with. Each corner was futher modified by cloning or using the Healing Brush to touchup blobs or blank areas.

Thanks for the inspiration, gang!

Painter 8.1

Filled an empty layer over original image with Black as if for cloning. Clicked on transparency button and used "white" chalk. (Unticked "Use Clone Color")..

Great results Danny, Love the stamp best though!

This doesn't do her justice at all!!!

This doesn't do her justice at all!!!
...but look at the inventive technique you tried and shared with the rest of us.

That in and of itself is worth its weight in gold. :bigthmb:

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This one...basically three layers, each from duplicates of the original BG:
* Top: Photoshop Dry Brush (twice). Added a hide all layer mask and airbrushed with white to restore some facial detail (eyes & mouth, mostly)
* Middle: Impresssionist > Charcoal > Default. Added a hide all layer mask and airbrushed with white to tone down some of the edginess of the layer below.
* Bottom: Impressionist > #djroils24 custom setting.

Added a Channel Mixer adjustment layer to the top of the layer stack, checked the Monochrome option and fiddled with the sliders.

~Danny~

Oh my! What a rare result here Danny and thank you too for "sharing"...that's the name of the RetouchPRO Game! :wink: :)

Played around with Danny's suggestion about using Smart Blur, Edges only. Masked out Pamela and changed background to frosted ice sheet.

Cheers
Dave

Oops. Here's another one using 3 actions: Wow Enhance/Desaturate_Portrait/Pencil Artwork

Cheers
Dave

Picture Dave!

Thank you Elle! The background on the first pic really doesn't do justice to the ice. We had a beautifu, sunny day on the island today. I broke the ice on top of our Koi pond and it had this wonderful bubbly texture. Holding it up to the sun was spectacular. Couldn't capture it in the image though. Keep on truckin' !
I really like a lot of the stuff you're crankin out!

Dave

I love black and white. I ran a good buzz on her, then did VP watercolor, kinda heavy, then PM hand drawing, then merged with the original that was buzzed.

The second one I buzzed the PM hand drawing first to eliminate the "dirt"

Amy

I had to give this another shot...

BG same NeatImage smoothed starting point as my 1st post
A: Copy BG. AccentedEdges
B: Copy BG. NotePaper. Invert. (Difference. 100%)
C: Copy BG. Cutout. (Overlay, 45%)
D: The torn edges outline sketch from my 1st post. (Multiply, 33%)
E: MergeVis (A,B,C,D). AngledStrokes (Normal, 49%) Layermask to refine
F: MergeVis(A,B,C,D). DiffuseGlow (Normal, 27%). Layermask to refine
G: Curves Adj. to darken the lighter areas some.

This made a respectable pencil (plus charcoal?) sketch I think.

-Mark

Dave: Very inventive frosting concept and the inverse white on black BG is striking.

Amy: Always glad to see your creativity. Keep 'em coming.

Mark:
re: This made a respectable pencil (plus charcoal?) sketch I think.

I agree. Ya done good. The NotePaper-Invert-Difference combo is awesome. You've inspired me to tinker! :)

Trying to improve on sketching her in Painter. Wanted a softer look as I felt the last one was too harsh, hard looking. This took a while but enjoyed the exprimenting as always in Painter.

P.S. This wasn't cloned, I used a sketch outline using Xero Pastellise filter applied in Paint Shop Pro first. I worked with the photo alongside my canvas in Painter. Deleted the pastellised outline when finished and placed new drawing onto a new white layer. Did some touching up in Paint Shop Pro after.

increeeeeedible results, people :bow:
who would believe you can get so much from b&w? ;) hehe



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just used channel mixer (50, 70, 30, -20, mono), stamp vis, 4 copies, and used the "pencil" in curves on each layer, simple horizontal lines...

Nice renditions of this image.

Cropped
Added some canvas
Removed dress straps
Virtual Painter
Xero Clairity
Desaturated
Contrast adjustments
Hand work on some areas to blend

:nod: Very nice indeed Lqqker.

A great pic but I was having difficulty resolving the breast line angle. Lqqker, I think you're tight crop has solved that problem.

Dave

Lqqker...

You hit a home run on this one.

Exceptional job.

Here's my Pamela.

I used an art history tutorial I found in the tutorials forum, then messed around a bit with Gaussian blur on every area but her face. I used Leah's B&W from color tutorial to take the color out.

heres my first try
cut her out with wand tool made a bit lighter
dropped back in to picture then gave it a photo layer.

I do so love experimenting. I never know what kind of results I'm going to get; and I'm often surprised. This was one of the happy surprises.

Ran Mike Finn's cartoon action, which as fine, but I wanted more. So I posterized the original and smoothed the edges with median and gaussian blur then posed the Finn action on top, once with multiply and once with screen. Sweet result.

Janet

heres my first try
cut her out with wand tool made a bit lighter
dropped back in to picture then gave it a photo layer.

Hello, Quickmagic...

Welcome to the Photo-art forum.

Glad you gave this one a shot. We always enjoy having new folks join in the fun.

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Janet: We posted almost simultaneously.

"Wanting more" = stretching and growing. That's a good thing.

~Danny~

Ran Mike Finn's cartoon action, which as fine, but I wanted more. So I posterized the original and smoothed the edges with median and gaussian blur then posed the Finn action on top, once with multiply and once with screen. Sweet result.
incrrrrrrredible result!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

and thanks for the details! :thumbsup:

:bigthmb: Good one Janet, a happy find indeed for you!

Desaturated, ink outline, Faded, then Flaming Pear Kyoto Color. Messed with the curves. Drank some tea, watched Fedderer win. Saved for web.

Ah yes. I remember this. Very nice Alfredo!
I was a little intrigued after running Dave's Infrared action how the nose and far cheek disappeared leaving the details to the imagination. Finished with Filters Unlimited Aged Film.

Cheers
Dave

Adjust curves.
Duplicate layer and desaturate.
Duplicate that layer and invert. Blend=color dodge.
Apply Gausian Blur.
Levels adjustment layer.
Merge visible (3 layers).
Apply crosshatch filter.

Here's my version, and a cropped closeup to better show the effects.

This is becoming addictive. I may soon be in need of a 12-step program.

Is there another challenge image with which we can play?

Shoshanna
http://www.pbase.com/shoshanna

Here's my version, and a cropped closeup to better show the effects.

This is becoming addictive. I may soon be in need of a 12-step program.

Is there another challenge image with which we can play?

Shoshanna
http://www.pbase.com/shoshanna
Shoshanna (beautiful name!). Welcome aboard!
I know what you mean about this becoming addictive. For me, happy addictive! I love your pencil sketch. Inspirational and can't wait to try it out myself!

Thanks, Judy, for both the compliment and the welcome! Now I'm searching through this site for another challenge image on which to experiment-- is it okay to work on those that may be a bit out of date?

Are new photo-art challenges posted on a regular basis-- once a week, twice a month, or something along those lines-- or is it more haphazard?

Having first fallen in love with photography as the result of growing up surrounded by the work of the great early-20th century photographer/pictorialist William Mortensen, I've always had a passion for artistically transforming my images. I began in the early 1970s, applying a wide assortment of techniques both in and out of my darkroom and using everything from Marshall's Photo Oils to brush-applied Farmers Reducer to pumice stone, boric acid, and charcoal rubs.

After turning the focus of my work from the traditional to the digital darkroom in 1990 I've been digitally transforming photos into sketches and paintings, expanding and improving my techniques and experimenting with new and better software as the technology has continued to evolve.

I would rather be doing this than just about anything else-- with the single exception of painting with brilliant, buttery acrylics on a good canvas, which I also love-- and having the opportunity to play with the challenge images in a no-pressure, deadline-free environment is very relaxing and a lot of fun.

Thanks for having me!

Take care,

Shoshanna
http://www.pbase.com/shoshanna

Are new photo-art challenges posted on a regular basis-- once a week, twice a month, or something along those lines-- or is it more haphazard?


I'm very glad to make your acquaintance Shoshanna. You are the second person I've met to have the name Shoshanna. It is a beautiful name.

In answer to your question, photo-art challenges are posted often. They are every bit as varied as the multitude of people who frequent this forum. You won't have any trouble at all finding pictures to work on.

And if you feel like exploring, by all means do. The older challenges have some wonderful pictures that benefit us all when they are used. I liken it to getting out that box in the corner, which has been put away for a long time, and discovering a treasure you thought had been lost.

Have fun. Be creative. Enjoy.

Janet

I like what you did. It reduced it to the essentials. Her eyes, lips, and jaw line are what intrigued me about the image.

After turning the focus of my work from the traditional to the digital darkroom in 1990 I've been digitally transforming photos into sketches and paintings, expanding and improving my techniques and experimenting with new and better software as the technology has continued to evolve.

I would rather be doing this than just about anything else-- with the single exception of painting with brilliant, buttery acrylics on a good canvas, which I also love-- and having the opportunity to play with the challenge images in a no-pressure, deadline-free environment is very relaxing and a lot of fun.

Thanks for having me!

Take care,

Shoshanna
http://www.pbase.com/shoshanna
Shoshanna...you've come to the right place, dear. Our "photo art" sub-forum is teeming with members who simply THRIVE on digital tinkering. Here is a community of people who actually encourage you to ram your creative energies into the photos that we so lovingly post in this section. These have to be copy-right free. Go on, they're yours to play with. You may add a few of your own too for the rest of us to enjoy! It's a great place to relax and have fun. You are so right about that!

Here's my version, and a cropped closeup to better show the effects. Very interesting approach. What program/plugin, etc. did you use. I don't recognize this effect.

This is becoming addictive. I may soon be in need of a 12-step program.
The Doctor (me) is almost always in (in trouble, that is)! :)

Is there another challenge image with which we can play?
There are many. You may engage any of the photo manipulation threads [u]anytime[/i] you like. There's no time limit or restrictions whatsoever on participation.

I'm looking forward to seeing the next ones you try. :)

~Danny~

Shoshanna, super result from your addiction. I'm sorry to say there's no known cure for it except a power cut :lmao: :lmao:

Thought I'd have another go in Painter trying the Pencils. Tweaked in PSP8.1

Some wonderful interpretations here, everyone. I gave her a new background and inverted it, then ran Mike Finn's Sketcher, did some dodging & smudging to remove some of the specks, played w/ layer modes, and applied Dave's Ethereal Glow @ 70%.

How could I do something different, look at whats gone before all brilliant.
Well I tried, and here it is.


BTW if your going to have a go at this make sure you read the first post.


Peter

The little lady in shades of gray.

Steve C.

did a channel mixing layer then a face light then bacground light in layers

zganie

I needed a diversion to fine art. I dupped for three layers, used Mathmap to desaturate the image (like the result better then regular desaturation; just more excuses to play with my new toy), set the result to Grain Extract. Merged the Top two layers and set the resulting layer to divide to get the Highkey/contrast result. Final regular desat step and some contrast enhancements. :)

My version..alittle small :) sorry.

Wonderful inspirational efforts from everyone :)
I'm still pushing buttons and today I found the salt and pepper filter, how on earth do you remember them all!

I do know I'm going to have to get a tablet, it's hard using the mouse, and upgrade my old 'puter. I downloaded Painter but the poor old girl just froze on me lol!

Still, there's lots to learn with what I've got and here's my take on Pamela.
Touched up skin, smoothed, highlighted eyes and mouth and into the lightroom....see I'm starting to remember what I've done ;)

Here's my attempt. A fairly straightforward B&W conversion. I wanted to go for a high key look so lightened the background did a bit of dodging and burning, duped the backgound layer and ran it through Diffuse Glow and reduced opacity.

Using Channel Mixer, but different settings on two different parts of the pic

funny, my niece's name is shoshana.

A bunch of color half-tones and a bitmap overlay with layer masks.

Sketch in Photoshop, then chalk brushes in Painter, some texture, charpening in Photoshop.

I didn't have time for this month's contest, so here's my attempt at vexelization in B&W.

Lonnie, teffific rendition.
Could you share your technique?

Pavel

Color dots

lovely woman; nice renditions.

still working on the new style thing...

Alex and Craig, where are the black and white versions? :wavey: :wavey:

Janet

Moire Chantel

Thanks, Pavel.

My vexelization was made the easy way (i.e. I don't draw very well.)

First I made a full glamour retouch in B&W (attached). I made the vignette with 4 passes of angled perpendicular gradient fills.

I was ready to call it a day, but decided to experiment with Artistic Poster Edges followed by Artistic Cutout. Sorry, I don't recall the settings I used in those plugins. Lastly, I ran a moderate high pass sharpen. It was more of an accidental result than a purposed one.

I did this with PhotoImpact, but should easily translate to any other editor.

BTW, I love your sketch too and would also like to learn how you did that.

Lonnie, thank you for walk through.

I did a B&W sketch in Photoshop (attached) - a combination of layers made with
1. desaturate/duplicate/invers/color dodge/gaussian blur
2. desaturate/duplicate/invers/color dodge/mimimize
3. high pass/torn edges
4. original B&W photo
5. grey bg

merged with layer masks

merged layers, opened in Painter, used chulk brushes (mostly tapered artst chulk) on a clone.

Moved back to Photoshop, charpened and added background

Hope that answers your question. If need addtionoal details please let me know.

lol, janet. i totally forgot. ok, here's the b&w :)

I know its an old thread, but I think its got a few more miles left in it yet.
Once again I couldn't decide which so posted both.

Peter

A lot of you have gotten to this long before I did. Been busy and haven't been keeping up with challenges. Must though to keep in practice. Being new at this I didn't know whether to usr B&W mode or just to desaturate the color when done. So anyway it went liike this -- First I smudged and got her all glamorized. Got rid of loose hair ends and wisps. Created a background tha would hold after going B&W. Then I "desaturated". Then added some lighting. I did this in about 30 minutes so a lot of loose ends but it turned out fare I think.

Thanks for all of you that help us out here and share with us technique etc. We all can learn from each other.

bcarll

Well, it is black and white. :)

Peter, you are really doing some top notch stuff these days. This one of Pamela in BW is superb. I'm glad you revived this thread.

Janet

I agree with Janet, Peter glad you revived this one, The second one is my fav on this one (glad i am not the only one who has trouble deciding which to post, I suppose the answer is to stop at the first one and not" think what if i do this ")
bcarl very nice shame you have been busy
lkroll i really like that one
I used dither free on the first
then a painting

Palms