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Old 07-20-2010, 08:24 PM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

I'll check out your info. Btw, that's an impressive animation. Sets the rose apart nicely.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:16 AM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

Just making an example.
In the movie Avatar, which was probably one of the best 3-D movies to date, you can see obvious differences in filmography by watching the regular Blu-ray (which I liked better). Until I seen the blu-Ray, I did not realize how much detail I missed due to the 3-D effect, even though I seen the 3-D version in 70mm format at Imax. This may be due to the fact I was mesmerized by the 3-D.

If you take note, all of the film was shot to compliment the 3-D effect by exaggerating the linear perspective (the distance between objects) and arial perspective (the sharpness between distant objects) to a degree along with stronger foreground contrast. Having the closer colors slightly more vivid would enhance the effect as well. Of course these techniques could be applied to regular photography.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:44 AM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

LQQker,
Enhancing the sharpness between objects and the vividness is no problem. It's the linear perspective that bogs me down. How do you enhance distance on a 2D photo plane? Illusions are easy in vector drawings, but photos... that's the tough one, the nut I need to crack. Any more thoughts on it?
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:52 PM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

The "Master" painters throughout history would make the farther object hazier like this example. Might have some applications in PS.
http://www.allartclassic.com/author_countries.php?id=14
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Old 07-21-2010, 04:25 PM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

Good point, Steve.
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Old 07-22-2010, 02:02 AM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5yhxqkJiAQ

I think you need to take a basic video footage (moving camera), than you will take photographs in each place to keep same lighting and finally you will use a 3d software for same scenes (for example the broken glass in the air with changing light on itself) and than you will put everything together in SHAKE or MOTION or similar compositing software ??? I am not sure but I think I am close
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:36 AM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

why dont you just search on youtube for "Philips Carousel - Making Of" ?
there is at least two of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teoSDTJDjF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0MjC4mh0aw
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:50 AM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

Hi Temujin,

this is still not clear enough. As you can see, there is a combination of 2D & 3D objects, isn't? Are you aware of the software which was used? Could it be Shake? They show just very basic corrections - I am sure there is much more work behind ... And this is really not easy to shoot so long sequence and avoid any movement in the scene ... mozna se nam bude lepe komunikovat v nasi reci
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:36 AM
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creativeretouch: i think its pretty clear after seeing that making of videos, they just shoot whole scene by camera mounted on advanced rig. Actors just stay still in positions (they mentioned hiring people who is physically able to hold still position long enough)..also actors are supported by objects under them and wires (you can see it on cop smashed trough glass in entrance hall, he is basically sitting and his leg is supported by glass).

Other things (explosions, effects, additional CG parts) are inserted in postproduction (it actually doesent matter which compositing software you use)
with help of tracked camera to fit movement of additional parts.

They basicaly did something very simple, but its just good idea which looks expensive at the end.
personally i think that hardest part was preparation of whole set and all details before actual shooting.

I think you need very good equipment to make this, if you noticed that camera rig, tats not something you can rent for couple of bucks Sw is not that important.
You need some compositing sw (fusion, nuke...) 3d sw (maya, xsi, 3ds max...)
tracking sw (PF track, Boujou)...and maybe couple of plugins.

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Old 08-03-2010, 09:00 AM
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Re: TV Commercial 3D?

So I was pretty close. People in few positions look like a 2D photograph used in the final movie. It confused me

Do you really think you will get same result with iMovie as with Final Cut for example? Or iPhoto & Photoshop?

This is a professional advertisement which looks expensive as it is very expensive.

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