Sep 05 Contest Discussion

[T Paul]

Add your comments, questions or general discussion about the Sep Contest entries as well as the contest itself here. This is also a great place to share your techniques or ask others about theirs.

[Loverly]

When I tried to open the Tiff file it opened with Quicktime and wasn't savable.
Is it a lot larger than the jpeg or are the about the same size just a different format?

Loverly

[T Paul]

The best way to download the images is by rightclicking (or Cmd/Ctrl clicking) on the link and using "Save Target As".

[Dreamypix]

What did we ever do to you Doug!?! Wow, this has the be the ultimate challenge. I am curious to see what the results will be. I have never done an Oil painting before. Does anyone have any links to some good tutorials so I can get an idea of how to achieve an oil painting? Thanks!

~Amber~

[Kraellin]

now, if i can just find that script for auto-cleaning/restoring.....

definitely sadistic, doug

Craig

[byRo]

I've been sitting out the challenges - but this one, you can count me in!
This is going to be real interesting.

Rô

[NancyJ]

oh boy! I've got a long weekend booked in for this one

[fpellerin]

Wow,

there's a few hours work! I must be masochistic 'cause I have to try it!

[suchyy]

I like this one, and i will surely take part in this competition.

[Kraellin]

well, if Ro's in then i'm out. no way to compete with him (just kidding).

but, i do have one small suggestion here. not all of us use photoshop. thus, books on how to use photoshop arent really much of an incentive as a prize to me. now, i dont really enter these to win the prize; i just enjoy the challenge. but, it might make a bit more sense to have something that could be used by ALL the contestants.

frankly, i'm a little embarrassed even bringing this up. i mean, it's a free prize and we're not paying to enter the contest or anything; it's done purely out of the generosity of the moderators, and probably mostly doug. but, the simple logic of it bugs me a bit. and it's not like i've even been a close contender in any of these, but if i were the only one to enter and thus maybe win (no guarantees even if i were the only one to enter since i cant vote for myself ), it might be nice to have a prize i would actually make use of.

maybe a plugin that works for all PS type plugin applications, or a retouchpro t-shirt or something that everyone who won could use?

please, i really DO appreciate that there's even any prize at all, and i'd enter most of them even if there werent. but it would just make a bit more sense to me that the winner would actually make use of any prize given, a new car, a trip to the caribbean, a weekend in vegas....

and doug, thank you for doing all that you do. we love this place.

Craig

[Doug Nelson]

Everyone can feel free to email their favorite vendor and say "Hey, why don't you contact Doug over at RP about donating a prize?". If you think this month's contest is tough, try asking a complete stranger to give you their products for free

[Gary Richardson]

Usually only works when you have one of Mr Colts products in your hand, rest of the time they seem to ignore you.

[Marthig]

Craig, Doug and Greg !!

You guys are a riot exchanging comments, I laugh so much !!
Craig, you have marvelous ideas for prizes, a new car, a trip to the caribbean I mean, those are reasonable requests Doug, why couldn't we get any of those !

And Greg, I think that trying to get something out of a complete stranger with Mr.Colt's products in your hands is called "armed robbery" and that is a no no -or so I was told. Still a good idea though .

And Doug this new photo contest is the ultimate terror for a newbie (meaning me of course) I will still give it a try with not many hopes to win --so you may save the car for another more accessible contest. Though I think we should address our "complaints" to T Paul who accepted the "kind" offer to use that photo.

I downloaded the larger tiff and wonder how will my PC react when starting to work with it if to start it is 12,8 mb and 3285 x 4096 at a resolution of 400 pix/inch !!

Well one thing is certain it will be great fun !!

Thanks T Paul and Doug

Regards - Martha

[Loverly]

Ya' all better stop chatting and start werking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a SERIOUS contest!

Hee hee
Loverly

[byRo]

Just to get a little discussion going.......

Directions:
Restore and turn the file into full-color oil painting.

Literally?

I could well imagine myself trying to go direct from the "damaged" original to the painting without actually restoring (*). Would I get kicked out? I suppose not, but best to clear this up first.

Rô
*Tried it once and failed miserably - but that's experience.

[kiska]

Rô, that thought had occured.

[T Paul]

If you want to restore by painting that will be acceptable. The key is that it must be a finished full-color oil painting--so the missing parts and so on must be corrected. I guess you may say that this is a 3-part contest:

1. Restore
2. Colorize
3. Change to an oil painting

You can choose in what order you approach it and how you plan to accomplish the tasks.

[Marthig]

Some help please ?

I tried to use (for the first time) the history brush in the image, but there is a "forbidden" icon and a message appears indicating that the type of color characteristics do not allow to use the history brush.

I converted the image to RGB and it was set as an 8bit RGB image, after receiving the message about the colour I set it as a 16bit RGB but still it would not let me use the brush. Is there a way that I can use that tool, is it useful for this job? I use PhotoShop CS2.

Thank you - Martha

[PhotoB]

I am not familiar with a forbidden icon for colorization. Have you cropped the image after the point when you want to "history" back to? That's the only time I have seen a forbidden icon...

[Shalford]

Marthig Hi

Have you changed the dimensions of the image in any way?
Or the resolution of the image.
The history brush will not work if you want to go back to a state before image or resolution changes.

Regards

[PhotoB]

i have an attempt for my entry. Do we post here?

[byRo]

Originally Posted by PhotoB

i have an attempt for my entry. Do we post here?

No

The competition has three separate threads
- This one - which is for discussion;
- The voting thread, which stays locked closed until voting starts;
- The entries thread here where you should post your rendition....if you hurry you'll be first!!

Good luck,

Rô

[byRo]

Originally Posted by Marthig

I tried to use (for the first time) the history brush in the image...

Is that the History Brush, or the ART History Brush?

- If it's the History Brush then my advice will always be the same - Don't use it ever!! Putting things in layers is always better practice.

- If it's the ART History Brush then fine, welcome to the fun side of PS.

Rô

[Kraellin]

Everyone can feel free to email their favorite vendor and say "Hey, why don't you contact Doug over at RP about donating a prize?". If you think this month's contest is tough, try asking a complete stranger to give you their products for free

doug,

i contacted Ford, G.M. and Chrysler. they all oddly gave me the same phone number to contact for this sort of thing: 1-800-555-lmao. so, point taken

Craig

[byRo]

Originally Posted by T Paul

If you want to restore by painting that will be acceptable. The key is that it must be a finished full-color oil painting--so the missing parts and so on must be corrected. I guess you may say that this is a 3-part contest:

1. Restore
2. Colorize
3. Change to an oil painting

You can choose in what order you approach it and how you plan to accomplish the tasks.

T,

Risking being awfully terribly pedantic (and getting a post from Duv about the benefits os the proximity of sand and sea water). That's not quite what I meant.

Actually it would be more like...
1. Restore (No)
2. Colorize (No)
3. Change to an oil painting (No)
1. Do an oil painting based on the original image ( )

Rô
(sorry Duv, old habits die hard)

[Dreamypix]

Does anyone else think the man in the photo resembles a bit of Robert Deniro or have I been staring at this thing waaaaaay too long?

~Amber~

[T Paul]

Originally Posted by byRo

T,

Risking being awfully terribly pedantic (and getting a post from Duv about the benefits os the proximity of sand and sea water). That's not quite what I meant.

Actually it would be more like...
1. Restore (No)
2. Colorize (No)
3. Change to an oil painting (No)
1. Do an oil painting based on the original image ( )

Rô
(sorry Duv, old habits die hard)

I believe Doug intended to test your restoring skills to the max verses creating an oil painting based on the original image.

[Marthig]

Thanks a lot to PhotoB, Steve and byRo!

PhotoB and Steve you are right ! actually I had just finished cropping it when tried to use the History brush (not Art history Brush byRo), only removed the outer frame of the original image and then thought (to start Somewhere!) to try the history brush that's when the "no-no" icon appeared

Anyway byRo, I have just realized that what I wanted was the Healing Brush. Also the first time I try to use it, I find it quite similar to the stamp tool !

I still don't understand the use of the History or History Art brushes -in a few more years perhaps ?-

Again many thanks to all for responding

Regards - Martha


P.S.: Dreamypix I find the man's face quite familiar but not to Robert de Niro, some famous achiever like Edison, Bell or maybe a US President ? Perhaps we have both been looking at it toooo long !?

[Dreamypix]

Thanks, Martha! At least I know now I am not alone in staring at this thing and seeing famous faces. It was Deniros latest movie, Hide and Seek, that made me think that. He wears glasses in that one. Looks similar to me except the nose, Deniros is alittle longer. Anyways...Better go rest my eyes for a fresh look tommorrow.

~Amber~

[Lorraine]

Martha and Dreamypix --

I've been staring at this photo and thinking he looks like someone famous as well. To me, he looks like US President Harry Truman.

http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/0000018c.jpg