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04-24-2006, 04:44 PM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Venlo/Netherlands
Posts: 66
| | It's remarkable to see how every contest the opinions about the contest instructions differ.
The goal was to make Aylaah more flattering while keeping the snapshot look.
When you Improve the looks of someone, it is inevitable that the person's appearance is going to change!
If you for example loose a 100 pounds of bodyfatt in one day, your friends wil not recognize you!
I don't want to offend anybody, Aylaah is not really fatt, but I think that the images with narrowed faces looked better. But hey... that's just my humble opinion.
Or did I not understand the rules correctly?
Anyway.... voting was very difficult. The ones that improved her looks, lost the snapshot look.
The ones that kept it as a snapshot, improved her looks hardly. Some of the images look like there was no more than just a 5 minute healing brush job done.
What's the challenge on that?
So I decided to forget the snapshot issue for the most of my votes and to vote for the ones that improved her looks only.
1 kvk (only one who kept it as a snapshot)
2 camile
3 mig_al
4 vikilee
5 laradfreder
Last edited by HannibalVector; 04-24-2006 at 06:25 PM.
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04-24-2006, 08:13 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philippines
Posts: 54
| | | Too many great entries, too hard to choose...
My first entry was on the March contest, there i changed the color and tinted the ferrarri, when everybody abode by the rules, i broke them. When i entered this contest, i decided to abide them.
We all wanted to go further, we all wanted to change the background, but changing it makes it not the original ain't it? Even the simple removing of the white line alters the original. Nobody would have not noticed that white line, but removing it, that you would have to consider.
So, i voted only on those who did not touch the bg and the white.
1. ferdberfel - niiiiccceee!
2. WendyBobz
3. creeduk - a bit too much
4. Photomegus - the blur was a bit too much
5. InfiniteMonkey - i'll have to give it to you man, your ideas are infinite!
Ciao!
Giga | 
04-25-2006, 03:23 PM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK
Posts: 1,587
| | | Did this the scientific way, Looked at them all and picked the ones I liked best, very hard choice, should be a prize for them all.
1 Doug Colwell
2 terivon
3 Soleah
4 HannibalVector
5 Lorraine | 
04-26-2006, 10:15 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 425
| | | 1. Doug
2. Verywierd
3. Bella
4. Nicky666
5. Soleah | 
04-26-2006, 01:00 PM
| | Senior Member Patron | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The frozen North
Posts: 299
| | | This wasn't easy. There was the obvious lack of consensus on what 'snapshot' means, among other things.
I really wanted to vote for somebody who solved the problem of the puky yellow background, but either I found them unbelievable (mine, for example) or too clever by half or lacking in some other area. I was also rooting for anybody who tried to solve the clothes (or lack thereof) problem. It seemed to me that the straps (either set or both) alone without the rest of the garment looked like underwear or a negligee or something no matter what you did to 'em and left us with, well, just too much skin. But, again, I thought most of those who tried to solve the problem fell down in some other area.
And I decided the instructions about image size were clear enough that - sorry - I just flat disqualified anybody who didn't at least come close.
So:
1. soleah: good skin retouch, good clothes fix
2. hannibalvector: good skin, liked the vertical crop
3. peth: best, most believable background change, but is the hair too much?
4. verywierd: nice all around but that shoulder glitch bugged me
5. artfolio: could have used more degrunge, I thought, but good otherwise
And thanks again to Aylaah
dc | 
04-26-2006, 01:31 PM
|  | Senior Member Patron | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 353
| | So many nice entries. Here are my votes:
1. soleah
2. Verywierd
3. aceman
4. nanis
5. MinnGal
Kudos to InfiniteMonkey on a great manipulation.
Cathy | 
04-26-2006, 01:31 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 67
| | | Used T Paul's explanation (post #11 ) of non-glamour retouching as my guide . Here are my votes--- 1. grafx
2. WendyBobz
3. Gary Richardson
4. gigadals
5. Soleah | 
04-26-2006, 08:02 PM
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chatham, Kent, England
Posts: 18
| | tomatos, tomatoes Wonderful to see so many variations on a theme. I can't wait to see what aylaah thinks of it all. I know some people have mentioned how difficult it was to know where to stop, but I still think it was interesting to see people using their imaginations to see how far they could push things and yet still justify their enterpretation of the brief, myself included.
With "The goal is to just make it more flattering while keeping the snapshot look" as my guide, these are my votes, with honourable mentions to follow.
1. Bella - for my money the simplest most effective retouch. No bells and whistles, just nice, understated and empathetic to the subject matter.
2. Gigadels - again, a very fine piece of work. Contrast a little too high for my liking and suffered excessively from jpeg artefacting, which although not a criticism of Gigadels skills, unfortunately did detract fro the image.
3. OnAir - I've noticed several people crying about entrants who have chosen to change the background. Personally I really don't see what the problem is. The brief was to enhance the image and if changing the colour of the background enhances the image, why not? Some took the premise a little too far and comped in other images, which is still ok, as long as the perspective and lighting is consistent, unfortunately few entrants were able to mask the images effectively and the end result just wasn't convincing enough.
Anyway.... I'm going off on a tangent again. Nice retouch Onair, Love the background colour and the overall effect. A little too much noise for my liking, but still very effective.
4. Dcolwell - Nice to see someone else using their initiative to play with the Snapshot theme. Very effective, although it does look like she has mans hands, so I'm not convinced she'll be too happy with this one. Don't think you needed to invert the alternate frames either. Still, nice work on improving her overall complexion.
5. Lonk - Loved the overall effect, only let down by the masking on her hair which looks blurred and unfortunately ruins what would otherwise have been an excellent enterpretation. Be interested to hear what aylaah thinks about the dress!
Honourable mentions go to HannibalVector, with a fantastic, if overenthusiastic effort and RetroRetouch with an interesting and effective slant on the snapshot theme.
Over to you Aylaah... | 
04-26-2006, 11:20 PM
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota
Posts: 6
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GREAT JOB EVERYONE!!!
I was interesting to see everyones take on it. I can tell I am in the presense of retouching greatness... 1. Soleah - Her over all skin tone is very good. I like the way you gave her a little makeup without going over the top. I find that very hard to accomplish. 2. Aceman - Very nice skintone and overall cleanup. I would have fixed her strap issue however. 3. BobJones - Great skintone and good job on the hair. Noticed an area on her right lower cheek however that looks a little off. 4. NJ_Shadow - I liked that you removed the frizziness of her hair but kept the overall shape, so it still looks thrown back. Skintone looks just the slightest bit on the orangy side. 5. Artfolio - Good job on hair. Skintone seems a little orangy, and I don't think I would have chopped off the top of her head. However I am very drawn to her eyes. | 
04-27-2006, 12:15 AM
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 17
| | | my votes since i am in the middle of shifting house & going on leave, I'll make my post quick and short...
1- bella
2- hannibalvector
3- doug
4- peth
5- aceman | 
04-27-2006, 01:29 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NJ
Posts: 179
| | | 1. HannibalVector
2. KVK
3. WendyBobz
4. gigadals
5. bella
All were great entries! | 
04-27-2006, 05:35 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flemington, NJ
Posts: 150
| | | Been back and forth, and over and over, all of the great entries. Finally I chose the ones I thought best kept the original snapshot feeling and had the best skin texture and tones.
1. Bob Jones
2. MinnGal
3. Very Weird
4. Bella
5. Soleah
Lorraine | 
04-27-2006, 08:38 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 9
| | | 1 - infinitemonkey
2 - hitmaniac
3 - aceman
4 - palomino
5 - sean2 | 
04-27-2006, 11:04 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 296
| | | This was hard I almost entertained the idea of skipping voting but taht would not be fair. In the end I tried to choose the more natural ones but I slipped in a cpl of exceptions I had also thinned the face so let that slide a little as long as it kept close to the original.
1. bella - light touch accurate work that's what topped it.
2. Veryweird - nearly put first love the work , eyes and skin great straps not as clean.
3. kvk - love it I think you may have inspired hannibal be nice if you left more of the hair
4. BobJones - Loved it clear sharp, took a little too much hair away.
5. HannibalVector - very captivating draws me to look like the hair is left could be less highlights
Had to mention: cybercat, nice natural bright, I did a similar move I guess we went too bright.
maddymaba, good job, natural, got rid of highlights, kept the straps and background which I actually prefer more realistic but the overall image needed to have more snap probably benefit from scaling down a bit.
gigadals - very natural again light touches but I felt some of the highlights could be done and a little sharpen. I agree looking at mine now it is a little overdone. | 
04-28-2006, 09:41 AM
|  | Member | | Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 33
| | | Vote 1. Doug Colwell
2. Palomino
3. Artfolie
4. Minngal
5. Nanls |
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