Contests - - Aug 07 Contest Discussion - Page 2

Photomaster · #16 08-04-2007, 03:01 PM

According to Vincent Versace, on the Digital Innovator DVD entitled Photographic Workflow, a properly retouched photograph should show no trace of the work performed. The viewer should get the impression of viewing a pleasing photo that has the elements of clarity, proper lighting, realistic color with normal looking hair and skin texture. The eyes should appear normal and be the central focus of the image.

A glamor photo normally has extreme softening with exaggerated eyes and lips. The photo appears as obviously retouched.

Gary Richardson · #17 08-05-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oltenius

Gary, take a look at http://jenniferaniston.celebden.com/
Dan

Nah, don't think I'll bother thanks.

I know who she is really, I was just being facetious.

But thanks for the thought.

lurch · #18 08-06-2007, 03:24 PM

I think my entry went past Photomaster's Versace ideal, but doing it sure was fun. There's a large number of good entries (I'm trying to say they were all good and that there are lots of them). What intrigues me is the latitude available for 'color correction on' an image containing a person you don't know. There are valid interpretations all over the map.

One observation - I'm awfully glad I don't do this for a living - would end up very hungry and sleep-deprived.

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LonK · #19 08-07-2007, 03:05 PM

Considering my previous inquiry about the difference between "beauty retouch" and "glamour retouch", I think Ant hit the nail on the head with this statement made in the business forum:

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Originally Posted by Ant

... There is no glamour retouching in NY nor other big cities around the world. It's a small town, soft and normal porn, girl on a car calendar, erotic, your mom at Sears thing. There is no real client for glamour retouching. If it's to be a glamor type shoot (very rare, but this term glamour has such a loose definition it seems) then it is done at the shoot, not all in post. This glowing, smoothing thing with tons of makeup like work just isn't out there. Strike "Glamour" from your vocabulary. It's only real usage would be within the discussion of "Boudoir","Cheesy", "Low rent", "Bad Taste","Pageant" "porn", etc.

Swampy · #20 08-07-2007, 03:29 PM

I tend to agree with Ant. I think of all the shots I've seen that peple may call "glamor" , but all that high key, plastic skin look could be called "effects" more than "glamor"

Ant · #21 08-07-2007, 04:37 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamour_photography

Natalia hangs here too (Godmother) - makes me shiver http://www.glamour1.com

ScubaMargie · #22 08-07-2007, 09:10 PM

I've just been looking through the entries and I think this months contest is going to be very hard to vote on. Well done everyone who has entered so far.

dweekley · #23 08-09-2007, 05:20 AM

I decided to jump in and post my first challenge attempt. Doing the retouch was fun but I have to say that getting the exact height and width was frustrating. If sharing the technique isn’t against the rules I’d sure love some tips! There are so many great entries, it’s going to be hard to vote. I can see that participating will really push me to try to improve.
Doreen

Swampy · #24 08-09-2007, 08:52 AM

Doreen

You can use the "Image Size" dialog box if you use Photoshop to set the pixel dimensions, but you have to turn off the "Constrain" option.

bella · #25 08-09-2007, 12:07 PM

No Irshgrlkc, you are not sleep deprived, I thought she resembled Jennifer Anniston too.

Ms Bay · #26 08-09-2007, 02:56 PM

Seeing that this question is really getting to a lot of us about this particular entry. I would like to say how I interpreted the rules and what I did.

The rules specifically state that the photo should look natural with subtle changes. So, what I attempted to do was color correct the photo, then "clean" it up and enhance her eyes, hair and lips very little, while leaving the pores of her skin not so "china smooth", but a little more pourous to make her look more natural rather than "make-up made up". I also left her eyebrows as they originally were except for a little darkening, because I considered that a part of the naturalness (is that a word?) of the photo. She is a pretty girl as the picture stands once that was done.

That's how I interpreted the rules. I hope I succeeded in that attempt. Great entries everyone, and good luck!

dweekley · #27 08-09-2007, 06:21 PM

Thanks Swampy, I thought taking constrain off would distort a person but I've never tried it so I'll give that a try.
Doreen

Swampy · #28 08-09-2007, 06:56 PM

Doreen, it will distort the image, but it's probably the best you can do to get it the exact size required by the contest rules. I was 5 pixels off and got "caught" (thankfully) by Ro. :-)

Kraellin · #29 08-09-2007, 10:04 PM

frankly, i lost all concern for the 'natural' vs 'glamour' as i began working. i think she's a natural and adding 'glamour' just seemed wrong.

but i have another question. patrons and moderators are allowed to post 200k images as opposed to the normal 100k. in the normal forums this isnt a concern, but here, in a contest, to keep the playing field equal, it seemed more fair to post at 100k. so, i did. besides, 200k would probably just show my mistakes up even more

Graphics23 · #30 08-10-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Swampy

Doreen, it will distort the image, but it's probably the best you can do to get it the exact size required by the contest rules. I was 5 pixels off and got "caught" (thankfully) by Ro. :-)

All I had to do was open the Image Size dialog and with Constrain Proportions checked simply enter 545 in the Width field, the Height field changed to 800 automatically. No distortion.

ImageSize.jpg

Regards,

Michael