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Old 02-28-2006, 11:13 AM
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Thanks for the comments Phil.

Yes, I think you’re right. I increased the saturation in her skin.
I think it looks better.

Steve. I also think that yours looked a little blue. Maybe it’s because the image is posted in ColorMatch RGB Profile and not sRGB.


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Old 02-28-2006, 11:24 AM
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Why does the world hate pale chicks? Not everyone has a hollywood tan - nor should they - it just doesnt suit them.
Cameraken - watch the scalp - dead giveaway that its a fake tan. Speaking of which - has the original had work done on it? Or has she just put makeup in her hair?
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:25 PM
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Light Retouch

Hi Phil. The retouch on my monitor actually is redder, not on the blue side. All monitors give us different readings. Some of the other examples appeared more on the orange or too bronze for my taste. There were some some good alternates on my take and I analyzed everyone's comments. To Nancy, the model was not really pale, actually she has a healthy glow. My attempt was too try out some techniques I have read about here like Ro's degrunge example. Some felt that it was best to leave the org as is, but I felt a little tweaking was in order, not too much. Thanks to everyone's attempt and comment. I want to keep trying out some new directions and ideas mentioned here also. steveb
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:53 PM
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At home now, so this is my version
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:07 PM
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Is it Blue

Well I recalibrated my tried and true CRT monitor and looked at Steve's Retouch and checked out some numbers. The whites of her eyes were 169R; 162G;182 Blue. Her skin in CMYK ( 16%C; 33%M;22%Y;0%K). Normal yellow for skin color is about 1/5 to 1/3 Greater than Magenta (According to Katrin E. Restoration and Retouchin Vol 3 page 124.)

One formula for skin mentioned here recently is: CLICK HERE

At any rate it has a bluish cast. Of course if thats the way you want it fine.
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:28 PM
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Why does the world hate pale chicks? Not everyone has a hollywood tan - nor should they - it just doesnt suit them.
Cameraken - watch the scalp - dead giveaway that its a fake tan. Speaking of which - has the original had work done on it? Or has she just put makeup in her hair?
nancy, actually, there is good reason for not favoring pale. the red of the skin comes primarily from blood. pale translates to death, that pale look of death, or, lack of blood.

when i first looked at the original picture, i thought, boy, vampire skin and was tempted to do a joke manipulation with fangs. so, it actually comes from a survival trait.

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Old 02-28-2006, 01:53 PM
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Phil. I am using an iBook G4, so the monitor can fool us all. I made a color correction and some other tweaks on this example and punched up the yellow to balance out the scale. These screens aren't as accurate as CRTs. Tell me how it looks on your screen and if it appears more balanced. Also, I want to try out some other examples with different color ratios when I can on some other files if you can check them out for me. Some of the other posted examples were very reddish on my monitor, how did you read them? Steveb
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:58 PM
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Nancy, that's a very good point and Craig that's a very good reply.

As I remember, I was the first to post an image (Patrick almost posted).
I just dived in with the skin colour "correction" on instinct. Like in Craig's reply, I just thought that it was needed. But now, with Nancy's observation, I've had to look again.

I defended her freckles (as in, don't throw away with the grunge) because they were a part of her appearance. Maybe I should have thought the same way about her skin colour.

I have seen beautiful images of pale-skinned ladies and in many corners of this world such skin is highly treasured. Perhaps it was just taking the easy way out to adjust the skin to a more "healthy" colour instead of grasping the opportunity to learn how to properly retouch pale skin.

Needs thinking about......*


(* although I know that the answer is 42 )
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:12 PM
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Well She looked a tad green on my monitor

I've included the numbers. The second picture I just corrected by the numbers and didn't look at the screen. I used K.Eismans' numbers for an average caucasion. (C-17%; M-32%; Y-53%; K-0%).
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:23 PM
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A test image

Well here is a test image. A nice gray gradient and various skin tones. Check the cmyk numbers and stuff. It could identify a calibration problem.
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