RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Critiques
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Chat Room


Critiques The place to get serious, in-depth analysis and opinions of your work

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-28-2006, 10:07 PM
makeovermagic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 179
1st photo repair/colorization critique

hi all -- this is my first ever attempt at fixing a scratch in an old photo and colorizing -- how did i do?

everything that i did in this photo i learned from the fantastic RetouchPRO threads -- so thanks to everyone who contributed to my learning!

i am forever greatful!!

MOM
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-01-2006, 01:23 AM
asterix's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bulgaria/Sofia
Posts: 3
Desaturate a little colors. Hear and eyes especially. I never seen eye-color like this. Underline the left cheek bone. Other is ok. Regards for your first colorizing.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-01-2006, 05:36 AM
Ed_L's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: northwest Indiana, about 45 minutes from Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,824
First, let me say welcome to both of you if I haven't already done that. I agree with asterix about the color, *especially* the eyes. The vignette is a nice touch.

Ed
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-01-2006, 05:53 AM
NancyJ's Avatar
Senior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 729
Very good work, especially for a first attempt.
I think the saturation is fine, although the eye colour is an unusual shade (for a human being anyway). Looking at the original I would have guessed a pale blue eye colour, or if you're happy with the green, I would use a different shade - less yellow.
I dont like the vignette on such a tightly cropped picture. Perhaps consider extending the canvas slightly so the vignette takes away less of the picture.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-01-2006, 06:28 AM
philbach's Avatar
Senior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Seabrook Island, SC
Posts: 1,166
First Retouch

Very Good Retouch. I made some changes. I varied the luminosity on the right side of her face to reveal some contours (I wish I could draw better). I also decreased the yellow tint to her skin.

Minor corrections on a very good restore
Attached Images
File Type: jpg After1.jpg (27.1 KB, 60 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-01-2006, 07:36 AM
makeovermagic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 179
thank you all for the kind words - i fixed the eye color (i hope) and tried to tone down the yellow skin (although it's not as yellow on my screen), so i hope i didn't make it worse -- on my screen it gives her a little more contour. i also extended the vignette a little bit.

thank you all again. this is a gift for my mother-in-law, and i know she'll love it (she wanted me to add the color).

MOM
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-01-2006, 01:26 PM
Kraellin's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: somewhere over there
Posts: 8,736
Blog Entries: 4
very nice clean up. professional. i wouldnt worry too much about the green eyes. i dated a woman once who had one green and one brown eye and the green was very close to that. she was always a bit self-conscious about it and ended up wearing colored contacts to correct it, but i always found it a bit fascinating.

i do like that you brought her forward more in the 2nd rendition, but i do believe she could stand a touch more color in her cheeks. not saturation, but color.

other than that, i think it's a marvelous job and reminds me of those 30's studio hand coloring jobs, which your mother-in-law would probably appreciate.

craig
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-01-2006, 02:30 PM
makeovermagic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 179
thanks kraellin -- this has been a lot of fun to work on so i appreciate your comments.

i'm having trouble making the cheek color look "natural" -- but i did add some more color - although i'm not sure it made all that much difference.

MOM
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-01-2006, 03:49 PM
Kraellin's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: somewhere over there
Posts: 8,736
Blog Entries: 4
you're welcome.

but what i was talking about was adding more color overall. the original shows a fairly pasty image. there is some shading, but not really enough. and whereas i've just had a rather lengthy discussion with nancyj about 'pale', i'd add a bit more color if for no other reason than to give the image a bit more depth and contrast.

i worked on one of yours and attached it. i'm not a great colorizer and others could do this better, but it shld give enough of an impression to see what i mean.

but, in all such matters, the real question is, what does the client want? so, if you are the client and you like yours better, then you've done great!

craig
Attached Images
File Type: jpg FBRbef-aft-1-k-1.jpg (93.4 KB, 21 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Ed_L's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: northwest Indiana, about 45 minutes from Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,824
Quote:
Originally Posted by NancyJ
Perhaps consider extending the canvas slightly so the vignette takes away less of the picture.
Yes! The picture is tightly cropped, probably in the camera. Extending the canvas should help a lot.

Ed
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-01-2006, 04:57 PM
makeovermagic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 179
thanks craig for the added color - i attempted once again to add more color to the cheeks and altered the skin tone a bit - not sure if this is helping or hurting.

ed - based on the original crop of the picture i stretched the vignette as best as i could and widened the picture a bit to accomodate the extra width, but i'm not sure i achieved much -- if i were to extend the bottom of the picture a bit exposing more of the bottom of her jacket and elongating the picture a bit and then stretch the vignette down, do you think that would add anything?

MOM
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-01-2006, 09:11 PM
Ed_L's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: northwest Indiana, about 45 minutes from Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,824
I think you need to be careful that you don't distort the image by "stretching" it. When you increase the canvas size, you would probably have to use selections to move pieces into the newly acquired white area (on a new empty layer). It wouldn't have to be absolutely perfect because the vignette would cover most of it. But it would take some work. What you'd be trying to accomplish is to make the original appear to have been made with the camera a little further away from the subject. Then the vignette would look better without appearing to cut into the image so much.

If you cropped the original image to get what you have, you might be able to leave more of the image showing. That would eliminate "piecing" it together to make it look better. Good luck with it.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-01-2006, 11:41 PM
Kraellin's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: somewhere over there
Posts: 8,736
Blog Entries: 4
mom,

ok, let's go back a bit. on the original image you posted, make a new blank layer. on that layer take your airbrush brush and pick a color relatively close to the color you have for her skin. set the airbrush to a very light opacity, low density and a medium to soft 'hardness'. i dont know that all those equivalents translate directly to photoshop, but they shld be similar.

add some color to the entire face. you may want to darken the picked color just a bit or add some red to it, but we dont want too much alteration here from the original. avoid the eyes, lips and teeth, but dont worry too much if you dont. you can always go back and erase. set the blend mode of the blank layer to soft light.

when you've got the face with a bit more color, use a gausian blur to blend it. how much will depend on how well you painted. something around 10 to 20 shld be about right, though. now erase the bits that are outside the skin area or that got into the eyes, lips or teeth.

that shld add some basic color to the image and tone down the brights a bit.

i wont try to tell you what colors here, but now add another blank layer and pick another color and do some shading. gausian blur again and set blend to soft light.

keep doing this with various colors till you have what you want. it's a very easy technique and allows you to correct very easily or even erase completely if you dont like it.

the pink you added on the last one was too much, i think. if you do the same thing on a blank layer with a soft light blend and gausian blur it, it shld blur and blend a lot better.

i shld also point out that i still think you did a good job on the orignal and when you get to a point like that, if you get into something else you dont like, start back from there.

you shld also be aware that there are others who do this stuff much better than i. if you can attract vikki here or flora, you'd get some better help

craig
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-02-2006, 06:08 AM
makeovermagic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 179
thanks ed and craig for the additional comments -- i'm working on it and will post when it is complete.

MOM
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-02-2006, 08:23 AM
Kraellin's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: somewhere over there
Posts: 8,736
Blog Entries: 4
mom,

you're welcome.

it's actually a good excercise for me as well. i need practice in the area also. see what you think of this one. it used the technique i described, but at the end i added a selection on her skin and used the hue/saturation tool to alter the color a bit more back to pale.

craig
Attached Images
File Type: jpg FBRbef-aft-1-k-1c.jpg (93.7 KB, 13 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
please critique this photo zganie Critiques 4 10-24-2007 11:15 AM
New to Photo Impressionism - Please Critique esrazor Photo-Art 101 6 06-13-2007 12:17 AM
restored photo for critique and help! auroraskye Critiques 8 09-24-2006 01:46 PM
help and critique on old photo, military badges? WhidbeyPix Critiques 6 01-22-2006 12:06 PM
Preschool Photo Critique Dreamypix Critiques 19 11-23-2005 10:58 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Copyright © 2008 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved