Critiques - - Glamour retouch critique needed

shumski · #1 05-21-2006, 06:02 AM

Hi fellows!

Let me know what do you think about this works:

http://www.magnat.org/temp/retouch/kareliya.html
http://www.magnat.org/temp/retouch/luiza.html

Many thanks,
Yahor

Arandel · #2 05-21-2006, 08:56 AM

Yahor,

First of all: welcome to the RP forums. Then to comment on the photos you attached links to, I would say they look very professional. The retouching done - assumably by you, is sparse, which considering the quality of the pics works well together. However, in your shoes, I would try to eliminate the darker areas under their eyes and smooth out the feet in the "Luiza" one. But then again, it all depends on the purpose of this project and what you are trying to achieve: perhaps you could fill us in on that, as it would help us to provide you with helpful feedback. Regards,

Arandel

shumski · #3 05-21-2006, 09:10 AM

Dear Arandel,

Many thanks for your response.
The main purpose of the retouching was to save a naturalness of the photos, conception of a photographer and make the photos more attractive. Therefore I tried to don't make a tough correction.

This is the test work. If everything will be okay I begin to cooperate with this superb photographer.

Best regards,
Yahor Shumski

Arandel · #4 05-21-2006, 09:57 AM

Well I do believe you're on the way of achieveing your aim then. My suggestions for additional retouching would be:

For "Luiza": take out the lines under her eyes as they make her appear tired. The bone protruding from her left elbow is distracting, so try to level that area out. On that topic I would also advice you to pay attention to her bosom, as her breasts come across as uneven: do something (enlarge and level) the left one. While working in that zone, trim her armpit some more. Possibly beautify her knees, and then finally perfect her feet.

For "Kareliya": tidy up the eyebrows - remove stray hairs between them and the hairline, which you could straighten out a bit as well. The lashes need to be made consistent, since the lower part in their present shape slopes away from the rest. Clone out the red lines in her eyes, and eradicate the hint of bags under her eyes. On her left side (the blurry part), close to her mouth, there's a shadow indicating a major wrinkle - remove it!

With that typed out, I do have to ask if the photographer him- or herself has some specific preferences regarding retouching?

I do hope everything pans out for you the way you want,

Arandel

Arandel · #5 05-21-2006, 10:10 AM

One more thing though, as I just looked through your website (http://www.magnat.org): there is a photo (in its before and after version) posted there of Alicia Keys - which I recognize to be the work of Glenn Feron (http://glennferon.com/). Now, I'm aware of the fact that there is no text of you claiming authorship, but at the same time it's lacking referral to the real owner. This is illegal as you know, so why not exemplify with your own images instead?

Frank Lopes · #6 05-21-2006, 10:46 AM

Shumski, some of the images that you are using, I could be wrong, but I think came from retouchpro.com

I counted at least 3 different ones:

http://www.magnat.org/photo/retouching1
http://www.magnat.org/photo/retouching2
http://www.magnat.org/photo/retouching3/

It appears you used some of the posted/retouched images in the challenges area of retouchpro.com, to work on them and improve them. Unless you were the one that posted them, it could be seen as inappropriate.

Just my opinion...

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumski

Hi fellows!

Let me know what do you think about this works:

http://www.magnat.org/temp/retouch/kareliya.html
http://www.magnat.org/temp/retouch/luiza.html

Many thanks,
Yahor

shumski · #7 05-21-2006, 11:03 AM

Hey guys

This is my works. I took Challenge Images and photo of Glenn Feron and retouched them by myself. As you have seen, I'm quite skilled for such work.

Yes, it isn't good to use photos without permission. I deleted the photo of Glenn Feron. I just don't pay attention to my website and and haven't made any advertisings. www.magnat.org/photo is only a pilot version of the webpage.

Thanks,
Yahor Shumski.

Kraellin · #8 05-21-2006, 12:46 PM

shumski,

welcome to RP.

i looked at both images and i worked on one of them to illustrate some advices. the 'luiza' image looks like a studio shot, even after your retouch. the photographer was probably going for some interesting atmosphere and settings, but seems to have left it short as far as it being a real sort of dungeon or whatever type feel to it. in other words, it looks too posed. with a bit of lighting and cropping changes you can add more 'atmosphere' or convincing feel to it. i'm posting two examples of what i mean. they are by no means the only thing that could be done.

on the other image i somewhat object to the 'correction' of the nose. i know this is done at times for the sake of 'beauty' but in this case, i'd prefer to see the nose as it is. it's her nose. it is what it is and it's something that makes her, her.

both of your retouches were nice and most of what i'm talking about is simply preferences or opinion, so take it as such.

craig

shumski · #9 05-21-2006, 02:05 PM

Thanks for you post!

The skin color of the first model and nose the second one were done as the photographer asked me. I had no way for variations.

Kraellin · #10 05-22-2006, 08:58 AM

shumski,

ah, ok. in that case, if you followed what was needed and wanted, then there's no need for a critique; the client was happy (the photographer) and you've done your job.

craig