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06-26-2006, 10:33 PM
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| | | My latest Retouch. Please CRITIC See The Last Post By Me :d
Last edited by Godmother; 07-01-2006 at 04:29 PM.
Reason: Change last retouch
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06-27-2006, 12:00 AM
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| | | "mature content on"
not a member there......sorry | 
06-27-2006, 05:59 AM
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| | | Sorry I Forgot To Warn It
But is an artistic nude... I don't think this is tastless.
Last edited by Godmother; 06-27-2006 at 06:04 AM.
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06-27-2006, 06:58 AM
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| | | I think what Photo678 is trying to tell you is that the site does not allow guests to view the image. Instead there is a message stating 'mature content filter on'. Presumably they have a block on non-members viewing images. | 
06-27-2006, 08:06 AM
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| | | Yeap | 
06-27-2006, 12:52 PM
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| | | oh, yeah sorry....guests cant view mature content on DA....sorry for the misunderstanding.....
it looks pretty good though, great job. my only gripe is that above her eyes, but below her eyebrow seems too "rounded". i dont know if that makes any sense....but great job on the background and the color changes in her undies and the handle of the sword | 
06-27-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Godmother BE HARD ON IT | ...OK.
Firstly, not sure whats so 'Xtreme' about it but there you go. I dont think what you've done overall is an improvment to the picture at all. I dont think its flattering to the model or the sword.
From top to bottom.
I like what you did with the background - its a little moodier than the original.
The eyes are nice, though her right eye is a little malformed.
The makeup doesnt suit her colouring or the mood of the picture.
The jaw reshaping is well done, the body reshaping isnt. Appart from the tell-tale signs on her right shoulder, her whole size and shape is malformed. You've left her hips the same width but massively increased the curve of the small of her back and needlessly reduced her shoulders and arms, making her head look too big.
The breast reshaping is good but you should pay attention to the skin too, it could do with some mroe work.
Not sure why you changed the colour of the handle, I dont think its an improvement. Ditto with her knickers - I would have removed them or covered them up rather than make them white. | 
06-27-2006, 02:49 PM
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| | | Nice critic NancyJ:
I think you're right about the things you noticed, most of them I didn't notice my self.
I agree that the eye is a little malformed.
I agree with your "makeup comments" and with the hips shape being malformed. But I don't agree with you in other things.
I do think its flattering to the model.
I changed the colour of the handle to match her eyes.
I didn't cover up her knickers because I think THEY ARE SEXY, just thought the color didn't have anything to do with the image.
and last... I don't see anything wrong with her breast skin. May be you could tell me where to look. | 
06-27-2006, 03:52 PM
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| | | To be honest (and "hard" as you requested), I'd have to say I don't care for the retouch. Although it is meant to be extreme, I don't think it's extreme is a good way (I agree with many of the points NancyJ mentioned. )
The person looks totally different, but not in a better way. I think the original is more attractive. The body reshaping is not done well, and there are obvious signs of "work". The same is true for the shadowing. Probably due to severe contrast adjustments, the highlights on the image are now glaring hot spots.
It might be helpful, for those who post requests for critiques, to offer a bit of information about what they are trying/hoping to achieve with their rework, and why they posted the image in a particular forum. | 
06-27-2006, 03:53 PM
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| | | Just a thought!!!! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Godmother I Forgot To Warn It
But is an artistic nude... I don't think this is tastless. | Doug asked that this site be kept PG, you may want to run the image by him.
~Nancy~
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06-27-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nanls Doug asked that this site be kept PG, you may want to run the image by him. | Yes... you're right. I'll take it off and keep it clean (Even though I desagree with the rule  ) | 
06-27-2006, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NancyJ ...OK.
I dont think what you've done overall is an improvment to the picture at all. I dont think its flattering to the model or the sword. ....... |
I agree. Not seeing an improvement here. Just looks harsh. I like the original better. | 
06-27-2006, 10:10 PM
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| | | Rules Rules are made to benefit sometimes the minority with what is done here. To often we that are the majority acquiesce to those that want to bend the rules.
I'm glad that Doug made the decision to do as he did. That's all I have to say about that! | 
06-28-2006, 10:28 AM
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| | | Godmother, redheads are a particular weakness of mine, I have worked on several and found them to have the most difficult complexion to enhance. First, I do not care for the photo or your enhancement overall. I made a point of not reading the other critiques..
The eyes are too exagerated. Look long enough and she starts looking alien. Lip enlargement better. I hope that you had to use the sword, I wouldn't have picked it for a prop regardless of any subliminal intent, there's better. Why did you turn the undees white? The pink was better. None would be better yet particularly if you could take that opportunity to show us some really delicate - never touched by the sun - kind of texture and skin tone.
I feed strongest about the fact that except for removing a couple skin blemishes you did nothing to enhance her skin. Redheads are beautiful but they only rarely photograph that way naturally. I mean to say their skin always needs lots of help. Freckles, rash, dryness, tendency towards 'green' coloration. Its really not much fun being a redhead. I think you must (1) de-emphasize the freckles and make sure they don't have a green cast (2) try to achieve a creamy whiteness in the background skin color particularly getting rid of any rashy or dry looking areas - particularly, look at her wrists and hands, they show far too much age and irregularities, just like real life - lots of work needed here. (3) Pink skin tones don't work on redheads but you've added alot to her face. She looks either sunburnt or like she has a rash.
I like to try to end on a good note, but I don't think your enhancement is really much better than the original. | 
06-28-2006, 10:46 AM
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| | | What I dislike most is that sword being totally black.
An offer: Do you have a flat photo of that thing? I could make a 3D object and fit it to reflect the one in that image so you could paste it in |
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