Critiques - - extraction

makeovermagic · #1 08-21-2006, 07:30 PM

i've done this extraction and am not too sure about it. what can i do to make it more believable?

marsha

Swampy · #2 08-21-2006, 07:37 PM

To my eye, the woman is out of proportion to the tree in the background and the lighting on her is too "even" and bright in relation to the light source that seems to be coming from behind/left of the tree.

Overall the extraction and replacement are pretty good and halos/fringing is not apparent.

JMHO..

makeovermagic · #3 08-21-2006, 08:12 PM

swampy, i appreciate "jmho" and thanks for your feedback.

is this any better? i added a soft light gradient layer and adjusted some of the "flash" look. i agree with your light source comment, but i am trying to give the illusion of a flash; hence, the lightness surrounding her - is it working?

thanks,

marsha

Swampy · #4 08-21-2006, 08:33 PM

Marsha, if it's flash effect you are going for, then either will work. I like the skin tones in the original better though.

My eye is still bothered by the aspect ratio. That looks like a pretty BIG ole tree to me and the model just looks out of proportion to the tree and rock pathway, grass behind her etc. Depth of field? I would either reduce her or enlarge the background.

Again, JMHO

makeovermagic · #5 08-21-2006, 08:46 PM

swampy, thanks, i enlarged the background and gave her back original tone.

marsha

makeovermagic · #6 08-21-2006, 11:53 PM

another shot at it -- i enlarged background more and worked on lighting.

Dm_Cher · #7 08-22-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by makeovermagic

i've done this extraction and am not too sure about it. what can i do to make it more believable?

marsha

I suggest other variant.

blue dog · #8 08-22-2006, 05:17 AM

Marsha,

I think that your last repost to Swampy is better and you've made a lot of the changes that I would have suggested.

I want to bring up another point that you may want to consider (keep in mind that I don't know what you are trying to accomplish). You've got all the basics down and done well. My comments are more broad stroke. FOR ME, the backrop is too surreal unless you redress her as a fairy. And, being particularly fond of fairies, I would like to see that. It might be improved by applying some significant lens blur or other technique to really take the details down to where it no longer looks so Disney. Also, the feel of the lighting on her does not match the feel of the scene, she is still too flat and lacking highlights in her hair, and realistic shadows.

Not knowing your goal, I might consider a different backdrop.

Brad

Swampy · #9 08-22-2006, 07:18 AM

Makeover... Enlarged tree version is so much better!! :-)

LonK · #10 08-22-2006, 01:14 PM

The problem, as I see it, is that in the original, she is sitting on an inclined surface. The new background places her on a flat (horizontal) surface, giving her an "out of balance" posture. Perhaps you could skew the new background image to make the ground inclined somewhat, rather than totally flat?

makeovermagic · #11 08-22-2006, 01:44 PM

lonk and brad, i attempted to combine your suggestions in this latest version, i.e., background distortion and lighting on her.

not sure if version 5 is any better than version 4 (above).

brad, to tell you the truth, i had been looking for a background for quite some time for her, and this was what i came up with, i had no real objective other than to change the background.

swampy, thanks.

marsha