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Old 07-28-2008, 02:34 PM
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I need honesty! First time doing facial shaping.

Not so sure about this one. I never take it this far, but i guess i just wanted to see what i could REALLY do. Ive always been against making the perfect look completely different, but i guess i do need atleast one example of range.

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http://i36.tinypic.com/iwn5mx.jpg

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http://i34.tinypic.com/wqt0g1.jpg

After:
http://i35.tinypic.com/no9hxi.jpg
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:27 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

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Old 07-28-2008, 05:36 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

I think the mouth is too small in retouched version. It think it would look a lot better with bigger mouth. Other than that I think you did a nice job!

Oh, and too much skin retouching for my taste
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:05 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

Thankyou for the critique!
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:52 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

I think you took it too far - she looks like a mannequin to me. I would like to see some texture in her skin. I think I would blend back in some of the original. Good for a first attempt though - probably better than I did with my early attempts. Keep practicing - you'll master it. Practicing with a determination to do better than the last time does wonders.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:04 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

Really? I think it still has its texture(in the hi-res you can see it much better). I also blended it back to the original(after the facial reshaping). Hmmmm. Maybe i should try taking the opacity down lower when blending it back?
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:11 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

Over all I think she does look much better but several things do bother me some. Actually, I personally do like the lips in the retouched version. The nose looks more refined and the ears and eye brows look better. I don't like the eyes though. They don't particularly sparkle in the original, but appear cloudy with a brown ring around the outside edge in the retouched version. Also her right eye is bigger then her left. I would bring it down in size. I do like that you made the eye make up darker and smoker. You rounded off her left cheek deemphasizing her high cheek bones. If anything I would have gone the other way. I like what you did with her chin, big improvement. I would like to see just a little more line around her mouth. Also, I like the original below the chin. Meaning the neck and shoulders way to flat. But yeah I do think your headed in a good direction.

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Old 07-28-2008, 07:21 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

I just layered the high res and studied it further. You've done a great job with the mouth and nose and ears. I can see that there is texture in the skin that I didn't see in the small version. I agree with some of the things that JD Spears noted. I like the original better beneath the chin - I find it more interesting. Also - there is something about the eyes that bothers me. I think part of it is that there are no sharp reflections in the colored areas as exist in the original. Could probably also use a bit of a "catchlight". I think I would just paint in color mode over that area so as not to lose detail. All in all a very good job.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:15 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

Thanks so much guys. JD i think i was trying to make her face a bit more Femme? Ya know? I think her bone structure is different mainly because i lowerd the chin and filled the dented areas by each ear. And JD and Richard, i now see what you mean by the cloudiness of the eyes, i need to add those sharp speckles of light into there.

Thanks Guys!
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:07 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

I can't speak for JD, but the area I was talking about was the bone structure below her neck and towards her chest.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

Well done for your first attempt.
The only major thing that I can see is the jawline, I would suggest that you reshape either one to match the other(your choice).

The following suggestions are only minor ones and a personal choice.

1. The hair on the forehead above the arch of the eyebrows( above the temples) looks like it's coming down from the hairline and touching both eyebrows, I would suggest you remove that.
2. Reduce the size of the reflection in both eyes.
3. Whites of her eye's just a touch brighter.
4. The outline of both pupils needs defining more.
5. Her right ear looks slightly wider than her left.
6. You have removed the crease from the right side of her lips but left a bit on the left side.

Like I said before, well done on your first attempt, it's just a matter of practice, good luck.

Barry

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Old 07-28-2008, 11:07 PM
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Re: I need honesty! First time doing facial shapin

Thankyou Barry!
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