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Old 12-28-2008, 08:38 AM
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So what my level now??

ok, its been months ago that im practicing retouching... anyone would like to tell me what is my level now in retouching?? ^____


Unretouch
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/URetouch.jpg

Retouch
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/NRetouch.jpg

Another sepia try
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/SRetouch.jpg

Credit to lipstick for the original image....

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Old 12-29-2008, 08:50 AM
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Re: So what my level now??

so nobody gonna rate me with my work.. ok

im just asking whats my Rank/Level is it

Crap
Beginner,
Advance,
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: So what my level now??

beginner . .
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:25 PM
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Re: So what my level now??

Marek,
I don't think anyone likes to rank someone. If they do, they're either being real honest or real unfair. Ranking is just too subjective. We can offer constructive criticism of your work though. But, we need to know a few things about the image first, i.e. ...
- what is your experience level (<1 yr, > 1 yr, >5 yrs, etc)
- what were your goals (portrait, glamour, artistic, composite)
- what did you work on (don't make us hunt it down)
- what should we not look at (hair, below the shoulders)

For example, some people post images where they did not use d&b, but chose to simply color correct an image using various methods. If we are not told this, we might critique it based on advanced d&b etc, which would not be fair.

So, we need something to go by. Then we can offer some more critiques.
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: So what my level now??

Maybe it's because my mother is a Red-head, but erasing the freckles just so you can get a perfectly smooth skin drops you to the "Beginner" category.

I will always save a freckles layer (blue channel, high-passed) just in case I lose some along the way.

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Old 12-30-2008, 12:10 AM
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Re: So what my level now??

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Maybe it's because my mother is a Red-head, but erasing the freckles just so you can get a perfectly smooth skin drops you to the "Beginner" category.

I will always save a freckles layer (blue channel, high-passed) just in case I lose some along the way.

I understand what you mean, but I'm curious why you darkened the freckles in your retouch - at least that is how it looks on my monitor - was this intentional? I liked her freckles in the original but I think they stand out a little too much in your retouch.

To the OP, I am too much of a beginner to give you any useful feedback, but I like the color adjustment you did, much warmer and prettier.
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:01 AM
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... but I'm curious why you darkened the freckles in your retouch
I think I just wanted to make a point.

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Old 12-31-2008, 08:21 PM
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Re: So what my level now??

Even though it's totally subjective, my impression of you based on the retouches provided is this:

You probably don't do it professionally -- the hair is a dead giveaway. A pro would have at least done something, anything to clean it up. You not even trying it (or telling us why you only retouched part of the image in your first post) suggests you retouch a picture based on what you like doing, and not what it needs.

Aside from that, her skin does look much healthier, but losing the freckles is something an amateur would do (or explain in your first post that she asked to have her freckles removed).

Be careful with losing too much detail and creating a waxy look, like you almost do in the forehead of your image. You've taken close to the maximum amount of detail you can while keeping it realistic. Careful with that, you're walking a thin line.

Beautiful job on the eyes, I wouldn't change a thing about them. Nice, subtle and aesthetically pleasing enhancement. Kudos!

Finally, that bright light source to the right of the top of her forehead draws too much attention. I'd mute it down a bit. We want: eyes, lips, nose, hair, shape of face. Try to lead the eye a bit more through clever use of selective blurring, sharpening, dodging, and burning.

On a 1-10 scale, 10-master, 5-average working portrait retoucher, 1-complete beginner you are

4/10 - SKILLED DABBLER

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Old 01-02-2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: So what my level now??

Its not fare to rate someone. You should work for it result is whatever depends on your skill.
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:18 PM
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Re: So what my level now??

If you are looking for a way to market yourself, then call yourself an intermediate retoucher. You obviously have some skill, but are not yet a pro. And you are obviously more skilled then someone who can crop, lighten and blur a little. Intermediate is a non precise description of someone in between. Even the term Pro can be very subjective and covers some brilliant retouchers, and some shockers that get paid well anyway.
The only real way to show someone what you can do though, is through your portfolio.
Learning an instrument doesn't mean that you have any real talent. Just like saying that anyone can do a graphic course or spend time teaching themselves to use photoshop, but the proof is in the pictures.
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