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Old 05-06-2009, 02:47 AM
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Beauty Retouch

Hi guys,

I havent ever actually really introduced myself, only read hear and there - but never comment.

I want to become abit more active here (so it seems,this is the most active forum in the retouching category ^^).

A link to my last retouch (down on recources of photos to retouch hehe): http://nienna1990.deviantart.com/art...ouch-121569530

so, any critiques? somthing I havent noticed? I would really appreciate it.

Natalie.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:12 AM
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Re: Beauty Retouch

Ahhh! Floating head!!! Hehe, kidding

It's a nice, stylish retouch. What was it for? You'd normally see this kind of retouch in fashion, when it's given that style to compliment or add mood to the clothes. It would be out-of-place, in say... a portrait retouch.

Great job on the hair clean-up, dodge and burn contouring, and overall complexion at the end. Seems like you added noticeable noise, which is another fashion industry thing. Are you learning to retouch by copying fashion magazines by chance?

A warning on the eyes, and I see this a lot in newbies. In the original image, her face is lit by diffused light. The whites of her eyes are covered in a light, diffused shadow. After you retouched her, you altered the lighting to fashion spotlight, which would cast more shadow on the whites of her eyes. They look too flat now, just a bit in the top and bottom to show that they're round.

The composition is a bit odd -- a floating models head coming out of nowhere. I'd crop out the dark space beneath her head, or lighten her body up enough that we can see her shoulder's silhouette. I notice the pictures called "Stunned girl", but in your retouched you lowered the eyebrows, causing her to look more interested than stunned.

Nice, stylish retouch. You'll do great for some fashion magazine.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:48 AM
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Ahhh! Floating head!!! Hehe, kidding

It's a nice, stylish retouch. What was it for? You'd normally see this kind of retouch in fashion, when it's given that style to compliment or add mood to the clothes. It would be out-of-place, in say... a portrait retouch.

Great job on the hair clean-up, dodge and burn contouring, and overall complexion at the end. Seems like you added noticeable noise, which is another fashion industry thing. Are you learning to retouch by copying fashion magazines by chance?

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Im not so sure I get what you mean by what you said.

The way I see it, This is a portrait. which means the photo is mainly focused on the face of the model - this is a beauty retouch - This type of retouching is not at all done in regular fashion shoots. In fashion shoots they hardly focus on the face of the model.

"Are you learning to retouch by copying fashion magazines by chance? " - Huh? XD

Anyways, I tried fixing it abit - took note to myself on the floating head - you were right about that, so I croped and added hair where it was missing .
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:19 AM
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Re: Beauty Retouch

I think u went a bit too far with the general toning... too contrasty (u even have a pure white in the forehead that wouldn't print correctly.

here is a more detailed critic.

Keep up the good work.

If u want me to elaborate on something just let me know.

www.nataliataffarel.com/Fixes.jpg

Skin looks VERY GOOD
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:30 AM
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Re: Beauty Retouch

While the composition of the photo is a portrait, the retouching style is usually found in high fashion magazines. It's a common muted color, high contrast look that gives the models and clothes a moody, edgy look.

If someone asked for a beauty retouch and got this, they probably wouldn't be very happy. While beautiful and stylish, this retouch is simply too over-the-top for most portrait/beauty work. It's much more suited to fashion in my opinion.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:32 AM
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Re: Beauty Retouch

Mind if I ask where you learned this particular style? Was it a site/book particularly geared towards standard beauty/portrait retouching?
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:34 AM
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Re: Beauty Retouch

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I think u went a bit too far with the general toning... too contrasty (u even have a pure white in the forehead that wouldn't print correctly.

here is a more detailed critic.

Keep up the good work.

If u want me to elaborate on something just let me know.

www.nataliataffarel.com/Fixes.jpg

Skin looks VERY GOOD

Thanks Natalia!

I appreciate your critique very much.

I dont understand how I didnt notice that little blup near her face XD!.

The eyebraws - they werent even to begin with, and they just lookd different, but whos to say its bad?

Fixing the hair - I should work on that abit more I guess

And about the lips - I didnt understand what you meant.

Thanks! I will post later maybe an updated version.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:45 AM
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Mind if I ask where you learned this particular style? Was it a site/book particularly geared towards standard beauty/portrait retouching?
All - self taught.

Ok, I see what you mean by a little over the top - so It probably wouldnt be for a make up artist client ^^.

Besides, I went to the direction of this style of retouching because it shows what I do and can do, not what I would normally do. The Image lacked depth and was too flat.

Sure, I can easy the retouch up abit, but then it would just be like any other simple retouchnig job I have done. All I have to do is upload the simple retouching using only the D&B layers.

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Old 05-06-2009, 10:15 AM
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All - self taught.

Ok, I see what you mean by a little over the top - so It probably wouldnt be for a make up artist client ^^.

Besides, I went to the direction of this style of retouching because it shows what I do and can do, not what I would normally do. The Image lacked depth and was too flat.

Sure, I can easy the retouch up abit, but then it would just be like any other simple retouchnig job I have done. All I have to do is upload the simple retouching using only the D&B layers.

File Added.
Hate to tell u, but skin looks WAY BETTER in this one

A very good sample of going too far.

I'd use this skin and the other hair.

I always like to keep the original underneath it all and every 30 minutes or so... look at it so i don't go crazy

u have a good eye and u keep improving your techniques just don't over do it.

about the eyebrows... I liked the lifted eyebrow because it gave the model an expression and u took it out... again retouching it's not always about riddance.

Keep it up
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:46 AM
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Re: Beauty Retouch

Well, Thanks Natalia for all the advice, I sure needed it.

(the original is allways on the bottom, and I look at it almost every minute). Anyways, Toned it abit more and your right- now that I look at it, it looked too much.

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