RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Critiques
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Critiques The place to get serious, in-depth analysis and opinions of your work

My place for critiques

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-08-2015, 02:01 PM
andy_wpo andy_wpo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 29
My place for critiques

Hy everybody,as title says,i made this thread to post my retouch pics and see if they are good or bad,cause in my eyes they look superb,but that isnt necessary the truth.So here is a first picture....

http://i.imgur.com/cikPQku.jpg
after
http://i.imgur.com/XifLMww.jpg
Reply With Quote top
  #2  
Old 09-08-2015, 03:16 PM
Tulack Tulack is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 191
Re: My place for critiques

I don't see any retouch. Just tone mapping plugin
Reply With Quote top
  #3  
Old 09-08-2015, 08:49 PM
klev klev is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,109
Re: My place for critiques

Tulack is right that it just appears to be a tonemapping plugin, but aside from that, I think the after looks worse than the before. It's quite random, and I believe you should rethink your approach.
Reply With Quote top
  #4  
Old 09-09-2015, 02:42 AM
andy_wpo andy_wpo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 29
Re: My place for critiques

It's not a plugin,i use gradient map,curves,levels,masking,etc.But in what way i should rethink it??
Reply With Quote top
  #5  
Old 09-09-2015, 03:37 AM
klev klev is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,109
Re: My place for critiques

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_wpo View Post
But in what way i should rethink it??
The shot is about the bike right? I think the shot could be better composed with respect to the bike, but I'll concentrate on the post work.

The background is now more distracting and closer in color to the bike. You made the bike blend in rather than stand out. You didn't accomplish much else. You added way too much contrast to that background.

See you overdid a few aspects and then you didn't really do anything else. This is completely different from the reference you showed me before. There like I told you they limited the range a bit and tinted the background toward green. They did not add that kind of contrast. If you compared to your reference while you worked on this, you would be able to see that it's obviously wrong. On the bike itself there's a lot you can do to improve the way some of these parts read to the viewer. I can't get a lot from looking at the seat or the painted portions here.

I'm concerned by your response that this may have taken quite a bit of time. I think you should break the task into much smaller pieces and ask for help on individual parts as you get stuck. You will learn more that way.

Consider a couple things. Can you achieve the right balance between the background and the bike? Can you get the right look in terms of color and highlights to the tires or brake system? What about the painted parts? Being able to succeed at any of those will be much more valuable than asking for a critique on this. You're likely to learn a lot faster if you take that kind of approach.
Reply With Quote top
  #6  
Old 09-09-2015, 12:54 PM
andy_wpo andy_wpo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 29
Re: My place for critiques

Tnks klev very much for your response.I understand what you say (i think) but like i said pics "look good" i my eyes,so its pretty hard to know whats good or bad.If i post a pics on facebook i get likes just cause they are friends,but i need someone from "outside" to really show me what i do wrong.
Reply With Quote top
  #7  
Old 09-09-2015, 12:57 PM
andy_wpo andy_wpo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 29
Re: My place for critiques

So here is another picture

The first its made in Lightroom,second one in Photoshop and Lightroom

http://imgur.com/wuf8WMd,0418cCG

http://imgur.com/wuf8WMd,0418cCG#1
Reply With Quote top
  #8  
Old 09-09-2015, 09:41 PM
0lBaldy's Avatar
0lBaldy 0lBaldy is offline
Senior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,580
Re: My place for critiques

andy_wpo, If you use Photoshop you can post fairly large pictures which are under 100k using the 'save for web' function in Photoshop as described here:
Size, Quality and/or Format your Attached Images.. (Click here)

How to attach Files/Images to your Posts or Threads:
(Click here)

Always attach an under 100K version of your photos please (so the threads remain useful in the future, regardless of external links). If you want to post a larger resolution that is over 100K then you can host your image elsewhere and attach a link in the thread; As you have done.

I had a play with your motorcycle and background just for fun...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg XifLMww-OB.jpg (290.9 KB, 33 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #9  
Old 09-10-2015, 12:49 AM
klev klev is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,109
Re: My place for critiques

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_wpo View Post
So here is another picture

The first its made in Lightroom,second one in Photoshop and Lightroom

http://imgur.com/wuf8WMd,0418cCG

http://imgur.com/wuf8WMd,0418cCG#1
I don't mind this one, although I might have darkened the road just a bit to keep emphasis on the cars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_wpo View Post
Tnks klev very much for your response.I understand what you say (i think) but like i said pics "look good" i my eyes,so its pretty hard to know whats good or bad.If i post a pics on facebook i get likes just cause they are friends,but i need someone from "outside" to really show me what i do wrong.
I've encountered the same thing, and it's part of the reason I suggest small changes as well as previewing the sum of those changes on and off. I find that helps maintain perspective.

I don't think it's just an outside perspective. You need people who can actually offer some kind of analysis. I responded when you initially posted about the look of another bike shot, which you seemingly used to model the work in the first part of this thread. Would it help if I marked up some of the obvious details that went into creating that reference shot?
Reply With Quote top
  #10  
Old 09-10-2015, 02:56 AM
andy_wpo andy_wpo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 29
Re: My place for critiques

Yes will help a lot.I like the style,looks like its got a matte effect and a blue/gray color overall.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 11870660_974734122570173_2089605871244936423_n1.jpg (86.5 KB, 38 views)
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > Critiques


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Same Place Different Time thephotomender Photo Compositing 0 05-18-2015 10:41 AM
Capture 1. Good place to start? Repairman Software 3 03-24-2012 08:46 AM
Question: where do I place a retouched picture? LunaLuna Salon 2 02-25-2011 08:10 PM
Place Jacques cartier ghealy Photo-Based Art 13 12-23-2010 06:59 PM
This place has gone to the dogs! plugsnpixels Photo-Based Art 6 12-16-2010 11:31 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved