Lili

agillette · #1 02-17-2005, 04:30 PM

Hello All,

Well it's me again. I have done my best to make this image look good. I would like peoples input on how i did. Or maybe you have something that will make it better. Go ahead, edit it. Make it looke better. Hit me with your best shot!

tfs_Lili-002_02-05.jpg = Modified
tfs_Lili-003_02-05.jpg = Original

Regards,

Alex...

Legacy~Art · #2 02-17-2005, 05:55 PM

It would help if you shown us the before and after picture, otherwise how can we offer any help...

JMHO (just my honest opinion)

agillette · #3 02-17-2005, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legacy~Art

It would help if you shown us the before and after picture, otherwise how can we offer any help...

JMHO (just my honest opinion)

You are totaly correct. I am sorry for that. I have edited my origianal post to include the original photo.

Regards,

Alex...

Legacy~Art · #4 02-17-2005, 07:07 PM

I can see you have smoothed out her skin, and i have to say done very well, i really hate the plastic look some pictures look like, this is subtle and nicely done!

Also looks like you have added more gloss to her lips that looks nicely done too, i don't have any complaints, keep the natural look going, don't go plastic!

Duv · #5 02-17-2005, 07:57 PM

Lose the highlight on the top of her lip. Give the image a dose of USM. Otherwise, nicely done.

Dave

Legacy~Art · #6 02-18-2005, 07:20 AM

Even i am going to ask you what a "Dose of USM is?

philbach · #7 02-18-2005, 07:39 AM

I believe USM stands for Unsharp Mask Filter in Photoshop. I thought the restoration was right on. A nice portrait and retouching project

Duv · #8 02-18-2005, 09:05 AM

Hi Alex

I'm not sure that it's any better than what you have done but maybe just a couple of ideas. As in my earlier post, I reduced the highlight on the upper lip and sharpened the image .8/200/2. I Healed her right cheek just a little more and reduced the red/magenta in both cheeks just a tad. I thought her chin looked a little "dirty" so I Patched it from a cheek area.

Cheers
Dave

MBChamberlain · #9 02-18-2005, 09:21 AM

Hi Alex,

I took a quick look at your image. Overall I like it. I usually try to retouch so that the person the picture is of could not tell (unless the goal is "glamorizing"). As a result, I try not to change anything that is a characteristic part of the body, particularly freckles. I left the ones on her face and shoulders, but did remove the one on the tip of her nose. I think you did a good job of maintaining the natural look, but I left it a little less blur because that is my preference. That depends mainly on personal taste.

My only other change was to correct for monocular conversion (viewing a person from one lense rather than two) so I shifted the chin line a little becuase she is looking down.

Then a little USM, levels, curves, selective color, and a little grain.

Michael

agillette · #10 02-21-2005, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duv

Hi Alex

I'm not sure that it's any better than what you have done but maybe just a couple of ideas. As in my earlier post, I reduced the highlight on the upper lip and sharpened the image .8/200/2. I Healed her right cheek just a little more and reduced the red/magenta in both cheeks just a tad. I thought her chin looked a little "dirty" so I Patched it from a cheek area.

Cheers
Dave

Hello Dave,

Thanks for the retouch. It looks good. I guess next time i will include a link where to download the high res image so you all can make changes accoringly. For some reason the one you edited was a bit grainy. It still look darn good, and i thank you for the effort put into it. As always, i am open for great ideas!

Regards,

Alex..

agillette · #11 02-21-2005, 06:41 PM

Wow, this is a nice one. I must say the chin tuck kinda makes her look like she's kinda unhappy. I tried hard to make her mad when i was takeing the picture, she just would not budge, she was a happy model through out the whole 450 picture session. Excelant composition.

I left the freckels out because these will be printed in B&W for her portfolio..

Regards,

Alex...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBChamberlain

Hi Alex,

I took a quick look at your image. Overall I like it. I usually try to retouch so that the person the picture is of could not tell (unless the goal is "glamorizing"). As a result, I try not to change anything that is a characteristic part of the body, particularly freckles. I left the ones on her face and shoulders, but did remove the one on the tip of her nose. I think you did a good job of maintaining the natural look, but I left it a little less blur because that is my preference. That depends mainly on personal taste.

My only other change was to correct for monocular conversion (viewing a person from one lense rather than two) so I shifted the chin line a little becuase she is looking down.

Then a little USM, levels, curves, selective color, and a little grain.

Michael

MBChamberlain · #12 02-21-2005, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agillette

I must say the chin tuck kinda makes her look like she's kinda unhappy. I tried hard to make her mad when i was takeing the picture, she just would not budge, she was a happy model through out the whole 450 picture session.

Yeah I noticed that, I also changed the lip line to make he look a little less like she was pouting, but to no avail. For portfolio headshots, you were right to take out the freckles. I think I took pictures for this client before, but she looked a lot different. The two curses of a photographer, the person who can't relax and the person who can't be serious.

Michael

agillette · #13 02-21-2005, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBChamberlain

Yeah I noticed that, I also changed the lip line to make he look a little less like she was pouting, but to no avail. For portfolio headshots, you were right to take out the freckles. I think I took pictures for this client before, but she looked a lot different. The two curses of a photographer, the person who can't relax and the person who can't be serious.

Michael

Hello there,

Well i don't think you have taken pictures of her. This was her first time doing this. She may look like one of your clients. We are in texas, and she's kinda young too. I had to get parents signiture on the release forms. They have never loved anywhere else but in texas. So, i think there's a bit of confusion on that part.

Well keep the artwork coming. It's always apleasure to share ideas, and thoughts.

Regards,

Alex..

MBChamberlain · #14 02-21-2005, 08:03 PM

I didn't mean her specifically, I meant that I've worked with bubbly people who couldn't get serious when I needed them to.

Sorry for the confusion.

Michael

Indigo · #15 02-27-2005, 04:11 PM

Hi agillette,

Nice work. Lovely soft shot.

To me it appears that when you blurred the image you appear to have blurred her eyes as well.

On a personal note I would have masked the blurred image and "brought back" the sharp eyes from the lower layer. Or use the history brush if you did not duplicate the layer prior to blurring.

Sharply defined eyes hold your attention.

Indigo.

agillette · #16 04-13-2005, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indigo

Hi agillette,

Nice work. Lovely soft shot.

To me it appears that when you blurred the image you appear to have blurred her eyes as well.

On a personal note I would have masked the blurred image and "brought back" the sharp eyes from the lower layer. Or use the history brush if you did not duplicate the layer prior to blurring.

Sharply defined eyes hold your attention.

Indigo.

Yes you are correct, i forgot to mask the eye's. I will defiantly remedy that. I should have known better. Sharp eye bring out so much detail about a photograph. Thansk for the tip.

Regards,

AG

meto · #17 04-14-2005, 05:13 PM

I know this isn't what you wanted but I loved to play so hope you don't mind, I love working with layers...

agillette · #18 04-15-2005, 09:59 AM

Hello Meto,

Wow, you did a great job at it. It looks really sharp. May i ask what you did to it?

Regards,

AG...

meto · #19 04-15-2005, 07:12 PM

I only have psp9 and I just worked with layers...used selection tool to outline her face and body skin...went selections modify feather 18 then added new layer then picked colour as close as possible to her natural skin colour and flood filled the selection...going opacity until it blended naturally, from memory down to 48%, the cheek was still over exaggerated pink so repeated the above process but selecting only her cheek opacity down to 40% this time I think, and that was it.

But thank you very much for the compliment as I am very new to all this.

realaqu · #20 04-16-2005, 02:09 PM

yeah, seems the eyes are not that sharp.

meto · #21 04-16-2005, 02:57 PM

Thank you for your helpful reply realaqu...as I said I am only VERY new to all this...