Doodles - - Photorealism Challenge: Glass - Page 3

T Paul · #31 09-13-2004, 07:16 PM

Remind me not to drink anything at either one of you guys' parties

T Paul · #32 09-13-2004, 09:20 PM

Okay here is mine. This was completely drawn by hand in Corel Draw 8. I was following a tutorial from the Corel Draw Studio Techniques book by David Huss and Gary Priester.

Basically it is a lot of ellipses, circles and rectangles with different fills.

Bowl:
Took a large circle and broke it into parts. Then used ellipses to create the rim, top of wine and top of glass.

Stem:
Basically just a rectangle that was then distorted. Made several duplicated and transformed the shapes slightly to create the different fills.

Base:
Again several ellipses and a lot of different fills.

Once done, brought into PhotoShop and added and few sparkles and drop shadow.

Not thrilled with the jaggies on the curves....tried blurring and sharpening but didn't like the results. Make sure you view the largest version as their are lots of jaggies in the smaller view.

Mark Adams · #33 09-13-2004, 11:26 PM

Mmmm, more drops. Make it sweat!

Mark Adams · #34 09-13-2004, 11:31 PM

TPaul, very nice. The proportion is great and the use of gradients is very realistic. I notice the glass tends toward the green end of the spectrum. Was that a choice or just a default that showed up in PS?

Either way it's very, very realistic, and just good looking.

T Paul · #35 09-13-2004, 11:55 PM

Thanks Mark! How about this?

As for the green...just following the tutorial.

Janet Petty · #36 09-14-2004, 08:59 PM

T.Paul, your photorealism manipulations are amazing. The glass and contents look remarkably realistic. I even like the little starry sparkle you put on the rim. I noticed you did that on the corrected version of the frosted glass.

Now how about telling us how many hours it took you to do it? I noticed it was posted near 1:00 a.m.

I was snoozin' away and only dreamin' about photo manipulations when you were actually working hard to learn and implement more.

GREAT JOB as usual.

Janet

T Paul · #37 09-14-2004, 09:28 PM

Thanks Janet...actually it didn't take too much time. That 1am post has since been redone. I was still up researching and read Mark's request for some water drops so I quickly added them. When I looked at it this morning I thought the bowl's rim was a bit wide so I redid it and played around with the water drops again while I was at it.

As for the original post, the bowl was just a few circles and ellipses so in a few clicks it was done. The stem was a bit more time consuming with all the shapes but not too bad. I did the bowl quickly one night and concentrated developing the rest the next night. I haven't played with photorealism before so I am having fun learning!

As for the little sparkles...I got the brushes from the Adobe Exchange.

~T

Punch · #38 09-15-2004, 12:50 PM

T... Good work

An observation. Your glass is quite good. Looking at glass filled with liquid I notice that the bottom of the bowl is often thicker than the walls gradually thickening as they rise. Perhaps you could adjust the fill layer so the glass would show clear at the bottom giving it a little thickness. I believe that would would give it a more photorealistic look.

... my .20 cents worth [adjusted for inflation] ... Kent

T Paul · #39 09-15-2004, 03:51 PM

Nice observation Kent. I knew something about the bowl was bothering me. I'll give it a try.

~T

Mark Adams · #40 09-15-2004, 05:02 PM

I still think it looks quite good. As Kent points out there is an issue with the bottom of the bowl. The problem I see is that there is no transition from the stem to the bowl. There should be thickness in the transition between stem and bowl because this object is made by extruding glass form one structure to the other. As is, it appers the stem is simply butted up against the bottom of the bowl and glued there somehow. There should be a gob of glass that represents the material for the stem becoming the material for the bowl. Look at how the bottom of the stem transitions into the base. You nailed that part.

I think the green color looks perfectly natural and goes well with the red liquid. I just tend to think more bluish for thin glass -- the green stuff is typically thick and cheap.

Sorry I have't been around. I've got some personal business to tend to and my Halloween mask project for the Challenge forum is sucking in water and going down rapidly.

Gotta' run. Back tomorrow.

T Paul · #41 09-16-2004, 08:14 AM

Resubmittal...turned the glass a bit to the blue scale and added a bit of glass to connect the stem to the bowl.

T Paul · #42 09-17-2004, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Adams

Okay, so why didn't anybody pick up on the fact that there is no reflection of the cork in my image?

Hmmm?

And what about the shape of that reflection? I'm pretty much stumped on it.

Mark

Well Mark for good measure I set up a wine glass a cork, and guess what...I didn't see any reflections of the cork in the wine glass. Well there was a very small speck, but basically nothing. Now objects at bowl level or higher did show more of a reflection than those below it.

I played around quickly with the photo and came up with this….but it still doesn't seem right.

Mark Adams · #43 09-18-2004, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Paul

Well Mark for good measure I set up a wine glass a cork, and guess what...I didn't see any reflections of the cork in the wine glass. Well there was a very small speck, but basically nothing. Now objects at bowl level or higher did show more of a reflection than those below it.

I played around quickly with the photo and came up with this….but it still doesn't seem right.

I could be easily convinced that a cork casts no such reflection.

I've done a little work on the highlights and shadows and I'm calling this one "done". Here is a final repost.

Thanks for all the help folks. Now I don't know aobut you, but I'm ready to move on. :-)

Xaran · #44 09-22-2004, 02:26 AM

Not on a par with the other images here but I thought I'd post it anyway.

Started with an outline of the glass shape, used motion blur to soften the outline then smudged in the shading. Duplicated and did different layer blends to get the final result.

Christine

T Paul · #45 09-22-2004, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaran

Not on a par with the other images here but I thought I'd post it anyway.
Christine

Not on par huh....Christine this is not a competition or comparision so please never hesitate to submit something. This site is about learning and sharing techniques so all levels are welcomed.

While your image might not be a true photorealistic image, it has a nice arty quailty. I especially like the smudging of the shadows and highlights. Very nice results! When you say you worked from an outline, did you take a photo and use it as a tracing source or did you create the outline by hand?

Kudos on your entry and I hope to see more.

~T