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Old 01-26-2010, 12:23 PM
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Does anyone have any idea if there are positions in the field of photo analysis & manipulation of sensitive to classified photographic material in any of the following agencies: NSA, CIA, FBI, DofD, etc?

I am sure there are cause all those reconnaissance photos let it be satellite or whatnot have to be enhanced and manipulated and analyzed to some degree for proper identification, correct?

Can anyone point the way? I have logged onto their websites for job openings and I do not see anything.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:50 PM
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Re: Working for government agencies

Here Ya Go!!

Job Title: BIOLOGICAL SCIENTIST (ENVIRONMENTAL)
Department: Department Of The Air Force
Agency: Air Force Materiel Command
Job Announcement Number: DEO 10-073


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Old 01-26-2010, 01:19 PM
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Thanks, but did you read my post clearly? or did I not ask the question clearly enough?

This links is for BIOLOGICAL SCIENTIST.

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Old 01-26-2010, 01:32 PM
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:45 PM
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I thought I was pointing you the way.... not finding the job for you.. I did not realize you were not qualified for the position but are so specialized you want to exclude any other duties.. sorry

Job Title: Photographic Technologist, GS 13/14 (EX)
Department: Department Of Justice
Agency: Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Job Announcement Number: 18-2010-0056
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:12 PM
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That's pretty good pay. I am not currently looking for a job per se but wasn't able to locate anything in those above mentioned agencies.

This FBI gig could be cool but one might have to look at some pretty disturbing and bloody crime scene material on a daily basis, might not be my cup of tea, you know what I mean?

Now, looking at some fresh off the satellite classified photos of perhaps a nuke installation site in North Korea or something along those lines will be truly amazing. Work that would actually have world changing effects as opposed to the advertising stuff that I do all day, things that really don't contribute to mankind, except for my pocket book.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:16 PM
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Re: Working for government agencies

I have some background in both those areas.

If you think that all you are going to see from crime scenes is "bloody and disturbing" you are in for a let down. Life is much more boring than that.

As for the fresh off the satellite stuff, do you know what a nuke site even looks like? Do you know how to tell whats going on there? Do you have the educational background to be considered for such a job?

And of course not to be overlooked is the 2 year background check to get the proper security clearance. This might be your last chance to return that overdue library book!
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:29 PM
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I have some background in both those areas.

If you think that all you are going to see from crime scenes is "bloody and disturbing" you are in for a let down. Life is much more boring than that.

As for the fresh off the satellite stuff, do you know what a nuke site even looks like? Do you know how to tell whats going on there? Do you have the educational background to be considered for such a job?

And of course not to be overlooked is the 2 year background check to get the proper security clearance. This might be your last chance to return that overdue library book!
Worked for a photolab that handled the coroner photos - lots of bloody stuff there!

Don't forget the periodic polygraphs for those really classified jobs.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:33 AM
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I have some background in both those areas.

If you think that all you are going to see from crime scenes is "bloody and disturbing" you are in for a let down. Life is much more boring than that.

As for the fresh off the satellite stuff, do you know what a nuke site even looks like? Do you know how to tell whats going on there? Do you have the educational background to be considered for such a job?

And of course not to be overlooked is the 2 year background check to get the proper security clearance. This might be your last chance to return that overdue library book!
I must not have expressed my inquiry clearly enough, you are not understanding what exactly I am looking to seek out.

I am not a scientist, I have absolutely zero experience as to what a nuke installation looks like or what an ICBM site looks like. That's not what I want to do, I want to be the one sitting in front of a computer (hopefully a decked out Mac with all the toys, ) with scientists or military personnel sitting with me. They are the ones making the decisions as to what we are looking at, they will ask me (using my skills) to enhance these photos on the spot so that they can see the images clearer. I am sure you have all seen these scenarios from spy movies, correct? Applying magnification, changing colors, sharpening..........

And as for the background check, they can trace me all the way back to when I was still half sperm and half egg for all I care, I have nothing to hide.

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:31 AM
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I must not have expressed my inquiry clearly enough, you are not understanding what exactly I am looking to seek out.

I am not a scientist, I have absolutely zero experience as to what a nuke installation looks like or what an ICBM site looks like. That's not what I want to do, I want to be the one sitting in front of a computer (hopefully a decked out Mac with all the toys, ) with scientists or military analysis sitting with me. They are the ones making the decisions as to what we are looking at, they will ask me (using my skills) to enhance these photos on the spot so that they can see the images clearer. I am sure you have all seen these scenarios from spy movies, correct? Applying magnification, changing colors, sharpening..........

And as for the background check, they can trace me all the way back to when I was still half sperm and half egg for all I care, I have nothing to hide.
Maybe now we do understand you better. The people I used to work with would be able to do all of those things themselves with a few hours of training. Perhaps you have seen too many spy movies and worse yet, thought they bore some resemblance to reality?
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:50 AM
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Hence the reason I am here looking for guidance.

"a few hours of training", anyone can call themselves a retoucher as long as they know how to operate the basics of PS, but will Revlon hire these "retouchers" for their next campaign?

Seriously, if you don't have anything solid to contribute, then please don't. This might as well be a fantasy, you could be right, but it could also very well be a very resepctable job.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:04 AM
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Re: Working for government agencies

hi,
sounds like your a young man and new to the job market....
first... you should have already have a resume setup .... if you haven't i suggest first make up a standard paper resume with enphases on graphics..
go to your publick library... they have books that covers the various resume formats for various fields..... from that.. you'll have info to fill quickly if you need to electronically send one in.. also it give you and headup info you'll need when they do request info...

note: a lot of colleges training institutions, have free courses on job hunting, this generally includes, writing resumes, handling yourself for interviews, etc...
good idea if you can find one and take it..

and don't forget to put any related info about photography .. smiling.. many time it the little details like that that get the job....

your education level will determine what rating jobs your can initially expect... so that important weather you have trade school training, or just high school deploma, etc....

now to find gov jobs...
1. if possible call the local office (or if there nearby call first and then drop by) .. there human resource department or personel department... they can give you info, applications, the job discriptions (that helps out when write up resume) ..
2. now if you can't find the specific job titles you want... look at job titles that involves phtography and graphics ...
3. another place to look at... is this gov website... read it carefully lot info and links..... http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/e...job/fedjob.htm

now this should be enough to get you started.... good luck.... one final thought... when you get a date for the interview... or when you go to the local office to get applications.... it a good idea to contact some one that is currently employed in the field there to give you heads u p on the interviews...

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Does anyone have any idea if there are positions in the field of photo analysis & manipulation of sensitive to classified photographic material in any of the following agencies: NSA, CIA, FBI, DofD, etc?

I am sure there are cause all those reconnaissance photos let it be satellite or whatnot have to be enhanced and manipulated and analyzed to some degree for proper identification, correct?

Can anyone point the way? I have logged onto their websites for job openings and I do not see anything.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:29 AM
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Jerrb, oh how wrong you are, and how suprised I am as to how people still judge a book by its cover. Althought I really appreciate your detailed suggestions, thanks.

I am 36, I have been retouching fulltime since I was 20. I took lessons using the Apple II, my first Mac was a Centris 610, 4 megs of RAM with a 30 meg HD, and I was using the first version or the second version of PS, I can't really remember. But yes, the good old days, if you even go back that far!

I have my own successful retouching business in New York, my clientel are internationally known photogs, ad agencies, design houses, international monthly magazines, doing their campaigns, their covers, their packaging, their ads, their editorials, you name it, I have done it.

Then why the hell am I here asking all these questions you wonder? I want to see if this is actually something I can go into once I am really sick of the BS from the commerical retouching world. I want to do something that can actually help mankind and not lie to them anymore by making artificially perfect women/men/people that do not exist.

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:27 PM
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Re: Working for government agencies

hi
I am sorry if i offended you, however, the way you came across initially to me...
sounded like you didn't have much expereience either graphics or the workplace , either from the enference or lack of info, and looking at other replies they didn't quite understand ..

but it obvious now from your last post that you are expereienced and have been in the work place and i would phrased my reply differently.

and by the way..... and you know this... first "impression" or "judging the book by it cover" although common cliche' ... everyone including you do this especially in business..... smiling... in fact when one does that interview... the first few words or how one is dressed can make big difference!! that common knowledge..

anyway, sounds like you really got a good resume and it will be important once you identify the job title and discription to taylor your resume and interview to that.. again if you already know this I am sorry but remember i am about probably 1000 miles away and i am not mind reader...







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Jerrb, oh how wrong you are, and how suprised I am as to how people still judge a book by its cover. Althought I really appreciate your detailed suggestions, thanks.

I am 36, I have been retouching fulltime since I was 20. I took lessons using the Apple II, my first Mac was a Centris 610, 4 megs of RAM with a 30 meg HD, and I was using the first version or the second version of PS, I can't really remember. But yes, the good old days, if you even go back that far!

I have my own successful retouching business in New York, my clientel are internationally known photogs, ad agencies, design houses, international monthly magazines, doing their campaigns, their covers, their packaging, their ads, their editorials, you name it, I have done it.

Then why the hell am I here asking all these questions you wonder? I want to see if this is actually something I can go into once I am really sick of the BS from the commerical retouching world. I want to do something that can actually help mankind and not lie to them anymore by making artificially perfect women/men/people that do not exist.
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not offended at all sir, just making sure we all understand what each other is talking about
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