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Old 11-13-2011, 06:13 PM
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Re: Eizo CG275W for retouching photography?

My historic complaints with NEC have been quality control, software bugs last for months before fixes, and their first tier tech support sucks. If they have someone more knowledgeable email you back it's way better. Oh and they drift faster for some reason. I used to see weird things like if it hadn't been calibrated in a while the uniformity would actually look worse, which shouldn't happen. The PA series has been suggested as a big improvement over the older ones, so the gap may be lower now.

I have a cg243w but that design has been out for a couple years. It uses an older panel design than the newest NECs. The 275w is nice but it's quite expensive here ($700 or so more than Europe after calculating for exchange rate). I don't know about NECs but you could probably see how the Eizos look at one of the shops there. San Francisco must have a place where you can see them. At some point we'll see an updated display generation.

If you go with any of them that are wider than an sRGB gamut, only a few sensors seem to profile those well (as in without weird results). With the NEC I'd get the bundle, with the Eizo I'm about to try out the i1 display pro as my old sensor died.

My suggestion is to see demo models if you can. If you go with NEC budget for the spectraview kit (the sensor bundled with that uses adjusted firmware, with Eizo they use lookup tables instead).


By the way hardforum has quite a few old discussions on these. B+H has a number of reviews on the NECs. The ones that did mention complaints kind of echos my quality control concern. All I will say is if you get one with poor uniformity out of the box send it back right away rather than trying to mess with things to improve it. If the initial results are poor, you won't like the way it will age. I'm not trying to steer you toward one or the other as NEC seems like a very good deal, but you don't want to keep a bad unit. In Europe I've heard the spectraview models are specially binned panels with different firmware, but they're much more expensive there.
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Old 11-13-2011, 06:40 PM
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Re: Eizo CG275W for retouching photography?

Thanks for the advice. I definitely will not buy anything without having a chance to interact with the models in advance. I've got a lot of research to do, but I've got time since I have a bunch of other expenses to cover first. (I'll try my best not to be swayed by pure gadgetry... that cool little pop-up sensor that self-calibrates in the middle of the night is so seductive!)
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:34 PM
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Re: Eizo CG275W for retouching photography?

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(I'll try my best not to be swayed by pure gadgetry... that cool little pop-up sensor that self-calibrates in the middle of the night is so seductive!)
What matters is how the hardware performs both when it's new and for several years of normal use. It can be a tough choice. Just remember that if you get something that looks like crap out of the box, a mass produced puck used to calibrate another mass produced item isn't going to fix a bad unit.

Edit: that's why I bought mine locally
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:45 PM
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Re: Eizo CG275W for retouching photography?

Yeah, I know. I was just joking I certainly don't have that kind of cash to throw around for something that will not last or that gives me nothing but headaches. This is a practical decision. I definitely will only buy if I feel confident in the product and I can purchase it with an excellent warranty.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:56 PM
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I definitely will only buy if I feel confident in the product and I can purchase it with an excellent warranty.
Warranties are always an issue with display manufacturers. You can always inquire about their policies beforehand, but some of them have some weird ideas about what is considered "within spec". Say you have some truly obnoxious backlight bleed in one corner. Maybe this isn't something seen on every unit but it happens to be an issue on yours. This doesn't necessarily mean a display manufacturer will take it in for warranty without fighting them on it. That's why I say to examine things right out of the box. If a display won't turn on or looks absolutely terrible early on, that's one thing, but you can find a lot of display warranty complaints online no matter what manufacturer you choose. NEC at first said a roughly 22% falloff in brightness (measured via a function in their own software) was within spec. The display got worse after that, and it took me forever to get it replaced although after continued issues they escalated the issue to someone who was really nice and did get it swapped out. With Eizo their warranties say five years but they have a lot of fine print. You should be aware of it.

Anyway none of them offer the perfect warranty.
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