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Old 05-15-2012, 01:07 PM
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Re: Can you help me choose a new Monitor?

Thanks for your advice, I ended up buying this:

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/desktop%...itors/p221w-bk

It's almost four years old but still being sold and seems to have some good reviews, plus it can be hardware calibrated.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:46 PM
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Thanks for your advice, I ended up buying this:

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/desktop%...itors/p221w-bk
Good choice!
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:35 AM
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Good choice!
Looks like I made the right choice then!
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:32 AM
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Re: Can you help me choose a new Monitor?

This thread inspired me to ask Andrew Rodney to record a 40-minute show about "Buying a Display". He covered every conceivable area of importance for retouchers and photographers. It's available for $3 rental here:
http://www.retouchpro.com/index.php?page=arrentals3
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:07 PM
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Re: Can you help me choose a new Monitor?

I got something similar to this.

I think IPS, high res and large screen are all very worthwhile.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:50 PM
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Re: Can you help me choose a new Monitor?

We are currently using the NEC PA271W.

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/desktop-monitors/pa271w-bk

These replaced our Barco CRT displays.

We tested an Eizo and the HP Dreamcolor at the time and both of these could not display the difference between rich black and flat black. Also the HP had a bluish cast even with the temp set to 5800k.

The NEC was the best of the ones we tested, and they still perform with great consistency and we can see the difference between rich and flat black.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:06 PM
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Also the HP had a bluish cast even with the temp set to 5800k.
So why not lower the CCT K value which would reduce the blue?
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:02 PM
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Re: Can you help me choose a new Monitor?

We were looking for a high-end, consistent display that would perform as expected right out of the box.

IF you want to buy a high-end auto and discover that even before you can get it out of the driveway you must tune it up, that would tend to lower your view of the manufacturer, the dealer, or the previous owner.

The NEC was the best of the bunch without any custom adjustments, and has proven its worth over time.
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We were looking for a high-end, consistent display that would perform as expected right out of the box.
No such product exists assuming you want some kind of match from display to something else. If you don't care that the display matches something else, what you want is available by getting something like an NEC SpectraView or Eizo and ignoring whatever is set in the calibration software and just run it. And no, over time it will drift (it will not be consistent) so you'll have to recalibrate it. Displays are unstable devices.

Until we have a brain probe option that can read your mind, it's impossible to know what is expected out of the box. IF one calibration setting worked for everyone, well there would only be one setting. The reason we have vast control over display calibration, assuming good software, is because what is expected is all over the map. My environment conditions, my viewing booth is vastly different from others. So one setting isn't going to work.
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IF you want to buy a high-end auto and discover that even before you can get it out of the driveway you must tune it up, that would tend to lower your view of the manufacturer, the dealer, or the previous owner.
IF you want to buy a high-end auto and discover that even before you can get it out of the driveway you must adjust the seats and mirrors, maybe the channles on the radio (and volume) you're expectations are sound!
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