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Sanda 08-14-2002 04:10 PM

Stupid things we do.
I'm not sure if this is for the Hardware or input/out put section, but here goes.
I had a job recently for which I had to design and print 600 double sided flyers, all in full colour. The quality was quite good but both the customer and I knew that only a small percentage of them would even be looked at. The customer wanted me to keep the costs as low as I could. After exploring options of photocopying, professional printers ect and presenting these costs to the customer she was very dissapointed with the expense.
This where my stupid idea came in, I suggested that I print these flyers on my older printer( Epson 760) but to keep costs down I would use "compatable" inks instead of the genuine Epson inks. BAD, BAD mistake.
The 600, or 1200 if you count both sides, flyers printed perfectly with no visual difference between the inks. I used 2 black and 2 colour cartridges to do the job. I continued to use the "compatable" ink on general printing stuff but not for anything important. When the cartridges ran out I switched back to Epson cartridges. This is where I struck problems. All of my ink nozzels had clogged up. I wasted two cartridges trying to clean them out with the head clean utility. In desperation I searched the net to find a solution but there was very little help there. So I used some Metholated Spirit, just a few drops from an eye dropper, and prayed. Finally after almost 2 days I cleaned the nozzels and the printer is back to working properly.So the moral to this long story is "I must not use any other inks in my printer".

fugitive 08-14-2002 05:02 PM

The color cartridges for my HP Inkjet are $32 each, so I found a place on line that sold refill kits for $12-15 and they work great for me. The brand is Inktec. Oh, and you can get 2 fills from the kit. It's not always bad news.

Ed_L 08-14-2002 06:32 PM

A friend of mine uses refill kits on his Epson, and he swears by them. I have also heard horror stories like the one from Sandra. I had an Epson 900, that bit the dust (not because of ink problems). So I called my local Epson repairman to see if he wanted mine for parts since I knew he also had a 900. He was glad to get it, and we talked for about 1/2 hour. He told me to never use anything but Epson ink in my printer, and offered to refill a few cartridges with Epson ink. Since he's only a repairman, and doesn't sell Epson ink, I took his advice.


BigAl 08-15-2002 12:31 AM

I've mentioned on another thread that I've used NuJet inks to refill my Epson 800 cartridges since about 1998. Must have sent about a pint of the colors and about 1.5 pints thru the black. Had no problems yet (touch wood) and I still use it for general printing as well as for printing CD covers for LPs that I've remastered.

I really think it's got to do with the manufacturer. I did quite a bit of reading in the NGs before I went to NuJet. I know some folks that use InkTec that Greg mentioned, and they're pretty satisfied.

PixelMover 08-17-2002 12:02 PM

I have the Stylus Photo EX
Tried refills once..
..still have nightmares about the results....
Apparently the refill ink was thinner than 'original' ink, leaving me with a printer that had ink literally anywhere it could creep, seep, drip and spat into INSIDE the printer.
My nozzles weren't clogged..boy do I wish they were...:tongue:

angue 08-17-2002 03:30 PM

You mentioned "Mentholated Spirits". What is it? And where can I get it?
My aging Epson Stylus 600 has developed one or two nozzle blockage on the red ink. I have tried the "cleaning cartriges from two different companies.
It would also be helpful if you can post a step by step procedure.

Sanda 08-17-2002 06:22 PM

I think you guys call it 'rubbing alcohol but I'm not 100% sure on that. It's a clear alcohol based liquid.
I removed the cartridges and used an eye dropper to drop a few drops on the nozzels. I didn't like the thought of leaving it there for very long so I gave it about 30 miniutes them used a soft absorbent cloth to soak up the inky/metho mess. I did this about three times then replaced the cartridges with new genuine ones and after several cleaning passes finally got an acceptable printout.
A friend of mine said he used pure vodka to do the same thing, I'm not sure I would have tried that.

angue 08-18-2002 07:21 AM

Thank you Sanda.

I will try it right away. If nothing comes of it or if it gets worse, I have a reason to buy a new one :lol:

BigAl 08-19-2002 12:50 AM

Methylated spirits is methyl alcohol with some other gunk added to make it unpalatable (methyl alcohol is poisonous, but favoured as a drink by hobos). Ethyl alcohol (ethanol) should work as well (can drink it safely too and it's cheaper than vodka ;)) A commercially available product in the US, which has been claimed to work well on blocked Epson nozzles, is Windex.

Sanda 08-19-2002 01:48 AM

Thanks for clearing that up Al I wasn't really sure what they called it in other countries and wa stoo lazy to reaad the lable to get the chemical name. :o:
I tried the windex thingy but it had no effect for me. My next try was going to by eucalyptus oil. I use that stuff for so many things around the house.My sons say the house "stinks of it". :D

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