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New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Eizo?

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Old 03-04-2014, 03:24 AM
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Question New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Eizo?

Some of you may know that I have been experiencing issues with NEC Spectraview as of late. Since then there was an incident at home involving an angry animal who didn't appreciate spending the day alone... Anyway, I need to replace my P221w. I looked at offerings from NEC and realised that I could get the same from Eizo plus self adjustment for exactly the same price. Is it time to jump ship?

The Eizo CX240 has self correction, 16 bit LUTs, 97% aRGB coverage and is within my price range at the moment. Does it seem like a good product? I'm not familiar with Eizo and I have a few concerns, is it possible to hardware calibrate this monitor with an X-Rite non Eizo branded sensor? What's this ColorNavigator thing, is it the equivalent of Spectraview? Is it free or what? Is it better to connect to my Mac Pro using DVI or Display Port?

Or perhaps there is a new NEC out there with high aRGB coverage I am not aware of and I should just wait for a Spectraview update?

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Old 03-04-2014, 08:43 AM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

Actually, a friend just offered me an opportunity to buy his Eizo CG246... Is it worth it? I'd have to spend about 100 bucks more.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:17 AM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

We tested Eizo a few years ago and settled for the SpectraView because the Eizo could not display the difference between rich black (four color black for CMYK printing) and flat black (one color black for greyscale printing). On the monitor they looked the same. Also the Eizo's overall contrast adjustment was not as robust as the SpectraView and the color temperature setting was questionable: we set the white point to 5800k and the display still appeared slightly blue, which should not have been the case.

We purchased two of the 27 inch NECs and they have been working great the last few years. Last year we upgrade another station to the SpecrtraView II model with no problems. We're running these on MAC 10.6.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:41 AM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

ColorNavigator is the equivalent to SpectraView software and yes, you do want to use it. Or SpectraView on NEC (or you cripple the entire product).

SpectraView displays were just upgraded to the newer PA/W series (PA272W) which have LED backlight which is quite nice among other new functionality:

- approx. 1-2dE better uniformity than former PAxx1 series
- satin diffuser vs matte difuser in PAxx1 - the image is cleaner, with
less sparkling/clouding effect and more punch
- lower minimal luminance - PA241 goes down to ~90cd/m^2 while PA242
achieves ~40cd/m^2 natively
- slightly larger gamut than PAxx1
- lower power consumption
Improved long term stability.
Mini DisplayPort and HDMI inputs.
Ability to update factory calibration in SpectraView.
Stand-alone calibration using the NEC MDSVSENSOR3 (NEC custom i1d3) on
the PA302W (no software needed) LED backlight.
- The backlight sensor also monitors whitepoint in addition to luminance
- GB-R LED allows more precise control of whitepoint (vs. CCFL)
- LED backlight and luminance sensor = almost instant on & stable
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:40 PM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

So, I take it the general concensus would be for me to stay with NEC? My friend's CG246 comes with hood, ColorNavigator and integrated self calibration sensor which sounds nice if it actually works well and isn't a marketing gimmick. Can anyone second whether Eizos still have problems with blacks? Was yours a mid tier or high end monitor?
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:43 PM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

PS: I was told display port is better than DVI to get the most out of hardware calibration. Is that true? My Mac Pro has both DVI ports and a regular (not mini) Display Port.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:56 PM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

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Was yours a mid tier or high end monitor?
The Eizo we tested was high end. I do not remember the model.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:12 PM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

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The Eizo we tested was high end. I do not remember the model.
Probably a CG211 or 243w depending on how long ago. Those have been the most common.

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PS: I was told display port is better than DVI to get the most out of hardware calibration. Is that true? My Mac Pro has both DVI ports and a regular (not mini) Display Port.
That DVI port is there for legacy reasons. You should completely ignore DVI if displayport is an option. Do not debate it further. It's there for backward compatibility in both cases and serves no other purpose.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:36 AM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

Okay, so LUT access and hardware calibration works via display port then, right?
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:35 AM
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Re: New Monitor! Stay loyal to NEC or switch to Ei

You can use either but you should use display port on a modern Mac if available.
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