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Old 05-26-2003, 01:11 PM
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Sorry it took so long to get back into this thread. retired/changed jobs, whole new schedule cut back on computer time for a bit. My experience with the epson so far has been it is excellant at scanning prints I have gotten some real nice images from 4/6's and blown them up to 8x12. Jury is still out tho on slides. not having real good luck doing 35mm color slides from Kodachrome 64. I just may need to play with it some more or bite the bullet and buy a film scanner.
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Old 05-31-2003, 03:20 PM
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My understanding is that you need a dynamic range of 4.2 or better to get good scans of slides. A good tip off is if the manufacturer list the DR or not. I have gotten very good results with the Nikon 4 slide scanner. The price has dropped in half since i purchased it a year ago. It is now about $750.

I looking to scan 60 year old b&w negitives, but I do not know how good a scanner you need.

Alan
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:47 AM
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I've been using the Epson 3200 for several months now, and I think it's fantastic.

I've had good luck with negatives as well as Kodachromes. One review (take it for what it's worth) said this scanner surpasses the Nikon for such scans.

One thing I might advise: ditch the Twain software and buy something like VueScan which is faster and more comprehensive than most other products.

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Old 09-23-2003, 12:29 AM
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Can somone please explain to me what the difference between the 3200 and the 3170 is? The specs look almost identical, except for some of the bundled software and the 3170 does not have a firewire port. The 3170 also seems to be almost $200.00 cheaper than that of the 3200. If that is the case, is everyone just buying the 3200 for the bundled software? Why would anyone spend almost $200.00 more than they need to. Can someone please explain this to me. Maybe there is something I am missing. I look at their specs on the Epson site and they seem to be identical. Whats up with that? Let me know as I am about to buy a scanner and would like to know which one I should buy. I will buy the 3170 if the only difference is the software and the firewire port. Thanks for all your help....
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Old 09-23-2003, 01:02 AM
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Like ExclamPt. I have been using the Epson 3200 for several months and I am very happy with it. I have had excellent luck with negatives, slides and flat bed scanning.
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Old 10-03-2003, 11:45 AM
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your right foto freak. the specs are the same all the way down to the Dmax. Im looking for a new scanner too so if anybody has some words of wisdom on this I would love to hear them.
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Old 10-03-2003, 12:06 PM
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Although I have no experience with the 3170, some quick searching on the web indicates it has the same innards as the 3200, but in a lighter-weight, possibly more vibration-prone, shell.

The 3200 also comes with Silverfast now, which is $100 on its own, but if you don't use it, there's no savings there.

The 3170 also has a smaller transparency scanning area (it can't do 4x5 scans).
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Old 10-04-2003, 12:22 AM
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I went out today and bought the 3170 and so far so good. I didnt have allot of time to play with though. Image quality is outstanding. I scanned some negs and they turned out great also, better than I was expecting.

One thing I miss though is being able to use Epson Twain Pro or Silverfast as I did with my Expression 800. The image quality matched the Expression which cost me $900 several years ago. The reason I replace it with the 3170 is because I had to keep cleaning the mirrors on the 800 because I kept getting streaks in my scans. I was a very weird thing.

Well its getting late and I need to get to bed. Going to do more test with the 31 70 over the weekend and will report my findings.
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Old 10-21-2003, 09:49 AM
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My understanding is that you need a dynamic range of 4.2 or better to get good scans of slides. A good tip off is if the manufacturer list the DR or not. I have gotten very good results with the Nikon 4 slide scanner. The price has dropped in half since i purchased it a year ago. It is now about $750.

I looking to scan 60 year old b&w negitives, but I do not know how good a scanner you need.

Alan
Airbun, not really true wrt the required DRange for scanning slides. While not a theoretical maximum, the practical maximum for film scanning is a DMax of 4. The practical, useable range is from 0 to 4. The reason for this is that no films have a DRange or DMax beyond 4, and in fact even the slide film with the highest DMax is only about 3.2 or 3.3.

Virtually every scanner maker will tell you the DMax and some will tell you the DRange. You're right about the need for knowing the DRange; however. The DMin, which they rarely tell you, is the key. A scanner with a DRange of 3.2 but with a DMin of .2 and a DMax of 3.4 is going to be more effective than a scanner with a DRange of 3.2 but a DMin of .5 and a DMax of 3.7.

Any scanner maker that tells you the DMax of their scanner is over 4 is giving you a theoretical number that is of no practical use.

WRT scanning b&w with a Nikon scanner, they are notorious for being poor performers with b&w film.
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Old 12-08-2003, 11:21 AM
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3200 b&w contrast etc

I expect a 3200 by UPS tomorrow :-) I've also just started using a 2200, my first color printer of quality.

I happen to be an expert in ancient crafts such as slide duplication, color correction per Ektacolor lab, Ektachrome processing thru E-4 etc. A dinosaur, or maybe Rip Van Winkle.

I expect this 3200/2200 technology to allow me MORE B&W contrast control than with silver paper. In particular I expect to do the equivalent of printing deep and flat, but then popping highlights...or printing light but dropping just deepest shadows and popping highlights. In other words, the equivalent of the rarely-done traditional photographic masking or deep printing with highlight bleaching (potassium ferrocyanide !)

Can this be done with the combination of Photoshop Elements and Silverfast that come with the 3200?

As a SECONDARY question, will I need Photoshop 8 or a RIP software to do what I want? I'd rather not the expense and the infinite array of possibilities since my goals are specific (above).

Thoughts?

Maurice

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