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Old 05-19-2003, 02:26 PM
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Well I finally took the plunge, backwards. I have a wish list about a mile long of things I need, or should I say want. I can't afford the digital camera that I want so I decided to get back into film. I also can't afford the F100 that Doug just bought so I bought a Canon AE-1 very similar to the one I sold back in 1980. My long range goal is to develop my own negatives and scan to digital to print. I wanted to ask Doug how his plans are comming because he said he was going to do close to the same thing.

I like my Nikon CP 995 camera a lot. It just has problems with the auto-focus in low light conditions like many of the newer AF cameras do. It sometimes has color balance issues but that isn't a real problem. It does do fantastic macro work. I just want to see if I can take better pictures with an SLR without spending a whole lot of money. I'd love to buy one of the new 11 megapixel Nikon pro cameras but I don't have $8000.00 or so spare dollars right now.

Now lets see if I still remember how to use this camera...
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Old 05-19-2003, 02:48 PM
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Kevin -- do you have a slide scanner yet? I thought about doing the same thing as you but haven't decided whether to buy a scanner or have the slides provided on disc from my local developer.

I can't justify spending $500 on a scanner at this time, though and was toying with the idea of buying a 2400dpi scanner. Trying to decide between a dedicated film scanner, or flatbed scanner with transparency light lid -- also 2400dpi.

I'd be interested in any comments from people who have gone either route.

thanks,
Scott
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Old 05-19-2003, 05:11 PM
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Hi Scott, My current scanner is an Epson 2450. I am hoping that it will be sufficient until I am able to purchase the film scanner I want. I have had real good results with the negatives and slides I have done so far. But like you I will have to experiment and see what will be the best method, but at first I will have the Lab develope then and I will scan them to digital. I am going to look on eBay and see if I can buy some tanks, reels, and a black bag. I've never developed color film so I will have some learning to do as well. I used to do black & white about 25 or so years ago.

Maybe we can get a good discussion going about this subject. maybe Doug will chime in. He hasn't posted in over two weeks.
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Old 05-19-2003, 05:47 PM
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Best of luck -- although I haven't tried it myself, my understanding is color processing is more difficult than b&w...

I have some questions about your 2450:
- Do you get sufficient detail in shadow areas with the 2450?
- Is 2400dpi sufficient resolution

I would love to see a representative scan if you would be interested in sending it to me.

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Scott
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:55 PM
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Kevin, I don't do much photography but I do occasionally like to work some into my artwork....and I use an Epson 2450 and a very old Canon AE1. I found that shooting color slides is the cheapest route and they scan much, much better than negatives....even with Silverfast. (Plus E-6 processing is pretty cheap!)

I like digital for snapshots but I still prefer the look and feel of film...and the 2450 will produce great 8'x10' prints from 35mm.
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Old 05-19-2003, 09:05 PM
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Hi Scott, I hope to have all of those answers soon. So far all of my slide and negative scanning has been very old items most of which have faded badly or had a lot of grain. This will be my first test on new negatives or slides. I'll keep you informed. By the way if you are in the market for a new scanner the replacement for the 2450 is the 3200 and it has 3200 DPI native resolution and is supposed to be an improvement over the 2450.

Hi Greg, thanks for the tip on the slide film. I might just try that first. I still may get cheap later and try to develop my own film but who knows I might not. I just bought my "new" 1976 AE-1 on eBay this past weekend and can't wait to get started. Will this make me a "cross-shooter"?
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Old 05-20-2003, 12:32 AM
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I want to second Greg's observation that slides scan much better than negatives!! Color balancing scans from slides is 100 times easier than those from negatives - even when I set the correct film type in Silverfast. Actually, I should mention that I get better color balance from negatives from Vuescan - I can't remember if Vuescan supports the 2450 though. I did a comparison of Vuescan and Silverfast on my slide scanner a while back and Vuescan came out way ahead. (I just have the free version of Silverfast that came with my scanner though - not the "Pro" version, which may make a difference.)

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Old 05-20-2003, 06:14 PM
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Thanks Jeanie. I am using Silverfast AI 6.0 with my 2450 and it does a good job on negatives as long as there isn't a very heavy color cast, that seems to trip it up a bit. I believe I will take the recommendations here and shoot slides.
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Old 06-06-2003, 10:03 AM
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Thought I would post an update with my progress. I went on a photo shoot a couple of weeks ago to Hodges Gardens. I shot with both the Nikon digital and the Canon AE-1. I was handicaped on the Canon because the only lens I had at this time was the 50mm. The pictures from both cameras were great. The Nikon had an advantage with its 4x zoom and its macro capabilities.

This was a very sunny day and the digital was greatly effected by the bright sun. This bright sun problem effects most non-SLR digital cameras. I was able to test my new Photosolve "Extend-a-view" hood for the view screen. It worked very well in situations that would have been hopeless with out it. Of course the SLR didn't have any problems shooting in bright sun.

I had one roll of slide film developed and have scanned the slides into Photoshop. I am pleased with the results and consider the test a success. The only big problem is that I can't get local slide developing. All the places I tried had to send them off for a couple of weeks. This is not acceptable so I am going to learn how to develop my onw slides. Of course I will have to find a good book first

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Old 06-06-2003, 10:43 AM
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Kevin,

There is a local lab here in Fort Collins (CO) which works exclusively with slides (developing, printing & duping.) Professionals from all over the US send their film to him - and he gladly works with peons like me. He has a one-day turn around here locally and I'm sure it's the same for people who mail their slides because I've seen him rushing out the door at 4:30p to make the FedEx dropoff deadline. $8.25 to develop 1 roll of 36-exp 35mm. Here's his contact info:

Paul Nielson
Markham Lab
204 N Link Lane #5
Fort Collins, CO 80524
800-914-6697
970-221-9429

I have no affiliation with Paul except as a very happy customer. He's a really great guy who is an exceptional aerial photographer and contributes generously to the community.

Give him a call and he'll be happy to answer any questions you have. You can tell him I sent you if you want, but you'll get great service regardless!

Jeanie
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