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View Poll Results: Do you use a Mac, PC, both or other ?
PC 125 57.87%
Mac 55 25.46%
Both 35 16.20%
Other 1 0.46%
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:45 AM
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Bill - that's a good question. I would imagine Adobe will continue to support existing PowerPC platforms for some time - but the future definitely has Intel written all over it. Without G5 powering Macs, I can't see Adobe or any large software company continuing to invest in PowerPC app development for the long haul. Hopefully apps like Photoshop are indeed insulated from the metal by the OS (as one would expect), so they can migrate transparently. It all depends on Adobe's implementation.

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Old 07-18-2005, 06:21 PM
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I thought I throw this in as a third option. http://www.bauhaussoftware.com/products_nomad_LP.php
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Old 08-15-2005, 12:53 PM
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yes, seen that before, deadants. very sweet. one question, though... what o/s are they using for that or is it a proprietary thing? it says intel processor, but nothing about the o/s.

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Old 08-15-2005, 06:09 PM
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Hi Craig,
good question. I looked all over their site but could not find anything about the o/s. So I sent an email to their support department. I will let you know when I get a reply.

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Old 08-17-2005, 05:22 PM
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HI craig,
I got a reply from Bauhaus Mirage.

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Old 08-17-2005, 10:41 PM
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thanks deadants!

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Old 09-19-2005, 02:03 PM
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Both

I have both; first PC was an XT (sister and bother in-law worked for IBM) in 80-81, first mac was Mac plus, in 1986. I remember the sticker shock of buying my first apple laserwriter postscript printer at a cool 5k! ouch! PCs are okay, except for the (lack of) plug and play as far as peripherals are concerned. I've stayed with macs through the years, and a few years ago added a pc laptop to test my website. Yes, PCs are just OK, and I'm aware that many more people have PCs over mac, mainly I believe due to cost factors, and if I have to use one I will, but I love my mac!
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Old 09-19-2005, 02:15 PM
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Nancy,

I always hear Mac users say, "I love my Mac". It's just the "natural" response.

BTW.. I love mine too.
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Old 09-24-2005, 08:15 AM
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Hi all,
my two cents. The plus for pcs is a slightly lower cost. I almost switched to PC. Fortunately I got a new job that is PC only.
I am now cured of ever wanting to own a PC for me. I have more reboots and font issues on two PCs than I have on two macs at home (I have a huge library of fonts at home). There are times when the PC just languishes (end task?) and waits to be beaten by my frustration. Sure, my macs crash, but they don't just hang in the air for an eternity (Except for Canvas 8, a real dog) with no information for me to decied what to do.
I think my day to day experience on a mac has been far brighter for nearly a decade than my 4 months with a PC. If I had that PC at home, uhm it would end up in the dumpster.
Programs. Plainly for my type of work (graphic arts/fonts/retouching), I have 4 programs that are not ever going to PC (FontStudio, Live Picture, DesignStudio and LetraStudio).
I have a great G-3 that runs a dual boot of 8.1 and 9.2 and its from 1998. I use it all the time, it is my muscle computer. The CD Rom died a couple years ago, uhm a $00.00 replacement cost. I also have a nice flat panel G-5 Imac that allows me to use CS, but also PhotoPaint (Allumes "Creative Suit“ which was bundled with a bunch of stuff for $150.00)
Honestly, I think it is great that there are PCs, and I think they work better for more people (hence 94% marketshare) than a Mac. For me and what I do I'm sticking with Mac. I don't mind having the best looking desktop around! I think it also boils down to this: What you first learn on is your most comfortable to use, until you get some sort of revelation. I love Freehand, and it is my choice of vector graphics (plus it has the best Hypenation-Justification table for high quality typography of any desktop program I have used, it rivals old proprietary progams here!) over Illustrator, but the market wins out and I know Illustrator better now than Freehand because I use it everyday.
So go out and buy your PC, be happy and don't call asking for help! I won't either!

God Bless,
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:30 AM
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I love Freehand too, but am forced to use Illustrator sometimes and it just drives me up a wall! FreeHand is so "up front" for the basic stuff that graphic designers do.

For example, I've gone crazy trying to figure out how to do double curve (button) text in Illustrator. Button text is a staple in the graphics field yet Adobe has ignored any improvments to this task for years! I attended an Apple/Adobe free graphics seminar a couple years ago and during a session break I asked Terry White (one of the Adobe reps) how he approached this task in Illustrator. He spent the entire break (about 15 minutes) trying to figure out how it was done! In FH it is soooo easy...type the first line of text (that will curve over a circle), hit return, type the second line of text (that curves under a circle), set for centered justification, select both the text block and the circle and "attach to path"! Bingo! Button text that is still editable, and where the upper and lower text can each be separately adjusted to join the path on ascenders or descenders, kerning and tracking are still available. This is the way FH has done it for 20 years and Adobe Illustrator is still stuck on copy/paste in front, select, drag through yada yada.

Another feature in FreeHand that is essential is the ability to apply half tone line screening to any individual element. There is a separate palette for this to adjust screen angle and frequency with a choice of line or dot pattern. Last month I had a project that called for a 5 spot color job to be reduced to one color for silkscreen imprint. I could define the colors using tints of black then setting the line screen for different effects and the larger dot patterns necessary for silkscreen work. The final imprint came out beautifully! With Illustrator you can setup a line screen but it works globally on the entire document. One setting for all the elements. Arrrgh

I'm currently working on a large map project that calls for a some single elements (certian counties on the map) to have a tinted fill and a solid stroke of a single CMYK color. Easy enough in FreeHand. Create the CMYK and add it to the swathes, then go to the "tint palette" and select a percentage of the color and drag it to the color swatches then apply the fill and stroke. In Illustrator it's easy enough to create a tint of a PMS color and add it to your swatches, but not so with CMYK colors since it uses the transparancy palette to generate the tint then you have to select the element and then go to the appearance palette, duplicate the fill sub layer and make the duplicate a tint. Very confusing. I've converted the entire map to an AI Legacy file and opened that in Freehand so I could get the job done in a timely manner.

I know this rant has little to do with PC/MAC. You'd have the same issues on either platform, but I sometimes wonder if the programming gurus at Adobe even have a clue about the basic graphics features that designers need. They seem to spend time and effort of "neat" bells and whistles (extrusions for one) and ignore the mundane like button text, tint and line screen control.

Off my soap box...
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