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How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

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Old 04-30-2008, 04:10 AM
subxaero subxaero is offline
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How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

hey there

i wanna know if anyone can tell me how to get such clean photomatix-hdrs, like Ben does

http://www.thebestofben.com/

one of his "secrets" i know, is that he's doing the tonemapping twice (and then goes to phptshop for manual selectiv desaturation...

but it's the photomatix-settings that i'm curious about, cause when i try to overdo it, it just looks crappy - no clue, what i'm doing wrong

thx already
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

Looks like he can tell you himself: http://www.digitalmastery.com/content/view/211/104/
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

ya right...spending 70bucks for some photomatix tweaks?

(i know those dvds...it's always lotsa chit chatter and the whole money for just a few minutes...)

so is there noone who can help me out? :/
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

Subxero do you have a set of photos ready for hdr? I might be able to help, i've had some success with HDR.
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:09 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

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Subxero do you have a set of photos ready for hdr? I might be able to help, i've had some success with HDR.
you bet i do

looking forward to your instructions
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:54 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

I use Photomatix pro so the settings are specific to it.

Strength - 90
Color Sat - 70
Light Smoothing - 2 (The 2nd radio button from left, this has a huge effect on the HDr loook.)
Luminosity = 0 to 2
White and Black points - play around with depending on how dark your image is. i used default for this image.
Gamma - use to raise or lower overall darkness if image.

I suggest a minimum of 5, 1 ev stepped exposures to get maximum results. 3 works but depending on subject 3 isn't enough. I also use the aperture settings to get maximum DOF, minimum f/22 usually higher.

This is an example i shot yesterday and has been tone mapped using the settings above. You can also tone map an image twice if you save it as a 16 bit TIFF. sometimes it's necessary. on the second pass you'll turn all your settings way down.

hope this helps and i'll post some more examples as time permits.

Thanks,
Jimi
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:04 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

File didn't attach for some reason. here it is. It's not my final comp, just wanted to show what those settings do. i also didn't tone map twice, this image didn't need it.
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:47 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

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I use Photomatix pro so the settings are specific to it.

Strength - 90
Color Sat - 70
Light Smoothing - 2 (The 2nd radio button from left, this has a huge effect on the HDr loook.)
Luminosity = 0 to 2
White and Black points - play around with depending on how dark your image is. i used default for this image.
Gamma - use to raise or lower overall darkness if image.

I suggest a minimum of 5, 1 ev stepped exposures to get maximum results. 3 works but depending on subject 3 isn't enough. I also use the aperture settings to get maximum DOF, minimum f/22 usually higher.

This is an example i shot yesterday and has been tone mapped using the settings above. You can also tone map an image twice if you save it as a 16 bit TIFF. sometimes it's necessary. on the second pass you'll turn all your settings way down.

hope this helps and i'll post some more examples as time permits.

Thanks,
Jimi
thx a lot for your effort sire - really appreciate it...i'm right now trying, and it looks weird (maybe my source), and i will get back to you when i stumble on new questions
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:53 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

You probably already know this, but there is two steps in this procedure. the first is to create an HDR image, then you do the tone mapping. after the first step the image looks horrible. that's because the dynamic range of the image is more than typical monitors can display. hence the second step on tone mapping is used to compress the image into the tonal range of typical monitors and printers.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:14 AM
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Re: How to get the "Ben Willmore" Look

ja i'm quite fond of hdr, but never got close this comic look tho

(here's how my hdrs look like (only the first two are hdrs, but they've been done with the photoshop hdr engine) http://cacophoty.blogspot.com/2008/06/east.html)
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