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Old 03-16-2005, 04:54 PM
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Print Layouts in Windows?

Hi Richard,

Just got your book, and have been flicking through to see what's included. I've found it enjoyable so far, and I (think) I like the way it doesn't duplicate the online help. I've found I need to refer to the help to make complete sense of the book text. For example, I probably would never have bothered to read the online help describing the difference between multiply and screen layers if I hadn't followed the steps for making RGB seperations in chapter 2. But that's a good thing!

I think there must be a Mac/Windows difference in the print layout options that you haven't described. On page 269 of HPPE3 you describe an editor for "Print Layouts", with screen shots from a Mac on the next page. As far as I can see that UI doesn't exist in the Windows version of PSE 3.01. The menus are named slightly differently to the ones you mention -- I clicked File->Print Multiple Photos (not File->Picture Package like your book states). Have I missed something?

Unfortunately on Windows I had to hack together a text file to make a custom layout. BTW, you give a path to the directory containing the files on Page 271, but it seems to be for PSE version 2. I found the text files in shared assets\layouts, with instructions for the format in shared assets\layout_readmes.

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Steven
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Old 03-19-2005, 04:23 AM
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I answered a similar question in an email just a few days back. You are right, the Windows version doesn't have the feature offered on the mac. Also, as stated, the layout folder is in a different place. It was pretty darned unexpected for Adobe to backtrack on a policy of making products the same across platforms -- that took them about 12 years to achieve. That isn't an entirely good excuse, but imagine how long it would take me to write a book if I had to check every feature on both mac and PC...I don't know that I'd get it out until after the product was in the next version. In any case, technical editors are around for this. Mine didn't catch it, but there were a lot of mismatching features in Elements 3...if only one was missed, it was pretty well done.

ALL THAT ASIDE...

There is a table of mode descriptions in the back of the book. As you say I did not want to duplicate Adobe's help, but there IS some crossover. I like my descriptions better ;-).

There is a way to do what you want by manually manipulating
the layout files. If you tell me exactly what you are looking for, I
can forward the layout and instructions so you can build this and any
other layout you want.

These layouts look like (in a program like notepad):
I 8.5 11
7 shots
0.25 0.25 4 5
0.25 5.5 4 5
4.25 0.25 4 5
4.25 5.5 2 2.5
4.25 8.25 2 2.5
6.25 5.5 2 2.5
6.25 8.25 2 2.5

The first letter stands for the measure used in the file, and then
the layout follows. Use P for Pixels and C for Centimeters.

Next is the width and height of the document.

Next line is the name (up to 75 characters).

The next lines define the image placement:
* The position of the image in relation to the left edge of the
document (the x position of the image).
* The position of the image in relation to the top edge of the
document (the y position of the image).
* The width of the image.
* The height of the image.

You can make comment lines (appear in the file but do not affect the
result) by starting a line with a semicolon.

You must save the file as a TXT file.

Place the file in the C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 3.0
\shared_assets\layouts folder, and restart elements. You should see
the layout in the drop list.

I will be posting something similar this month in the newsletter. Thanks for letting me know.
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:29 PM
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Well it's a shame about the layout editor going AWOL in PSE 3 for Windows, but getting the organizer instead was a fair swap I think. I obsessed enough about the positioning that I probably would have edited the text file by hand anyway.

This is what I was trying to achieve:
Code:
; A 2-up layout with 3.5mm margin around
; each picture on on Epson 4" x 6" paper
; aka 10cm x 15cm.

; Choose "Photo paper 4 x 6 in no perforations" 
; in the print driver to use the full paper size,
; not "Photo paper 10 x 15 cm".

; Don't select "borderless" in the printer 
; driver or the printer driver will ignore these
; carefully calculated margins and zoom in 
; on the layout to make it borderless.

; +--------------+  
; | +----------+ | 
; | |
; | | Picture 
; | |  ~ 4:3 
; | +----------+ | 
; |    
; | +----------+ | 
; | |
; | | Picture  
; | |  ~ 4:3  
; | +----------+ | 
; +--------------+

; This layout includes the result of a little 
; trial and error on my Epson Stylus C84 to get an 
; even margin all the way round each picture when 
; the paper is cut in half. Although the pictures 
; don't look centered on the preview screen, they are
; as good as possible on the page.

; The paper packaging gives the dimensions as 
; 102mm x 152mm. Using a rule to measure it says 
; 101.5mm x 152.5mm. (6" x 4"!). Choose "Photo
; paper 4 x 6 in no perforations" in the print 
; driver to use the full paper size. The driver
; wants 3mm margins (if not printing in "borderless" 
; mode.) 

; At the left edge the margin is 0.5mm 
; too big, so the right margin will be smaller
; than expected. 

c 10.16 15.24
4x6 (2) 2L 3.5mm margins 
0.3 0.35 9.42 6.92
0.3 7.97 9.42 6.92
This makes cute little prints, and the aspect ratio matches the camera quite well. A borderless version should be easier, because I won't have to worry about margins, and if I really get carried away I might make a passport photo layout for this paper too
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Old 04-03-2005, 08:08 AM
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I am not clear...did this work or do you need to make additional adjustments. If so, what EXACTLY is the result you are achieving?
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Old 04-03-2005, 12:29 PM
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Sorry; the layout file I posted before does what I wanted it to do -- 2-up layout, with margins as even as I think my printer can do.

Just for info, although the paper says 15cm x 10cm on the packet (here in the UK), it is exactly 6 inches x 4 inches. The Epson driver gives 6" x 4" and 15cm x 10 cm as options, but I needed to choose the inches version to get the even margins.
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Old 04-09-2005, 08:33 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I like the comment depth in your layout! Pretty good documentation. Glad you were able to get it to work.
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