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The New Hidden Power Book (and Tools) for Elements 4

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Old 12-22-2005, 12:31 PM
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The New Hidden Power Book (and Tools) for Elements 4

Adobe has thrown another wrench in the works for Elements 4, and I've been spending a very long time on making everything work again. I have just completed the writing, so the book should be out in a few months (February). I will have the tool set complete in the beginning of January...this time with over 100 tools (40 more than before)...and I'll be making that available from the web site as an upgrade/new release. These include work-arounds for Curves, Color Balance, Channel Mixer, Guides, CMYK separations, and all of the other things you may have heard elsewhere were removed from Elements.

I've re-written the book and done a lot of re-arranging to focus more specifically on image correction and adjustments, rather than some of the more esoteric materials (animation) and web concerns that were covered in the final chapters of previous versions. Conceptually, the whole seems to me to be even more cohesive than before. I've updated all examples that I retained and changed about 50% of them completely.

I hope for this release to build the Elements user community that has been all too elusive, centered on sharing progressive actions for Elements. If you have suggestions for what you'd like to see, please post them in the Elements 4 area: http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/a/

I'll be copying this post there too...
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:54 AM
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Mac & PSE4

Hi, Richard,

I see you are planning a new book for PSE4. I was about to buy the Book for PSE3. Since i am a Mac user, I do not use PSE4, and am not sure I will when it is issued. My question is - should I go ahead with the existing book, or wait until version 4 comes out. Will the new book apply to PSE3?

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Old 12-28-2005, 10:19 AM
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This is such a good question that I don't know if I can answer it completely at this time. I have not yet tested the Elements 4 tools in Elements 3, as I am working on Elements 4...And because Mac users will not be seeing a version of Elements 4 soon (no, I have no news of a timeline or if it is even in the works), it may be best to get the Elements 3 book: http://aps8.com/hppe3.html if you are on Mac. HOWEVER, and that said, everything I have built for Elements 4 *should* work in Elements 3 as it is--I just haven't tested it. I think the new book is significantly improved in methodology, and departs from some of the more esoteric stuff that was included in parts of the Elements 2 and 3 books. It is written strictly for the PC, though, so any reference to keystrokes and all screen shots will be PC oriented (I am a 50-50 Mac/PC user myself).

The only thing I can say is: the Elements 3 book will certainly work with Elements 3...so it is the safest bet. You could get it and the Elements 4 tools when they come out on the website (in January: http://hiddenelements.com/downloads.html), or even go the other route and get the Elements 3 tools only (again on the download page) to use those immediately and wait till the Elements 4 book comes out (http://hiddenelements.com/hppe4.html) to get the updated tools and procedures. If anything doesn't work, you can complain, and if it is a valid complaint, I'll issue a Mac fix. I don't expect there will be problems, because I have built the tools pretty solidly, and expect that they will even work on foreign language versions of the product -- which had been a problem in the past.

Does that help?
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:49 PM
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Thank you very much for such a prompt answer. I'll go buy the Book.

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Old 12-28-2005, 07:18 PM
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Richard:

Congratulations on your ongoing success with this series.

From what you've seen so far with PSE4, will actions be handled the same as PSE3 or did Adobe mess with that again, too?

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Old 12-29-2005, 10:01 AM
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I keep hearing that things are different for Elements 4, Danny, and they aren't. There are a bunch of things that Adobe disconnected to make it more challenging, but I've worked around everything--and this time it won't be so easy for copycats. Come January my Elements 4 set will be available, at that point I'll be updating my website and then getting up some free stuff. Any suggestions for inclusion in my free tool set are welcome...that would include whatever you think is most popular from your "mother of all.." set for Photoshop if you are willing to suggest!
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:22 PM
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Things different in PSE4?

Hi, Richard --

Have you any information as to a limit on the number of plug-ins that PSE4 will allow? I've found that PSE4 will only install a set, undetermined number of plug-ins when this application starts, the workaround not being a workaround at all as what I must do to access a plug-in I wish to use is to move to a temporary folder other plug-ins. This restriction is not evident in PSP nor to my knowledge did I find this with PSE2.

I've tried to post this question to Adobe to no avail thus far.

Thank you!


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hmmm. Mind listing all the plugins you are trying to install? My experience is not what you are describing at all. In fact, I've loaded over 100 things at a time. I probably have an answer, but first I am more interested in the details of what you believe is failing. I don't want to answer the wrong question.

PS -- My goodness, how many things are you trying to load anyhow? Are there really so many adjustment tools that you need? What is the source? If so, I am doubly curious as to what they are...

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Nothing unusual, Richard, and it appears to be around 75 in all. What I find is that only a portion of these are installed when PSE4 starts up and while all are not needed during any one session I've found it to be very helpful from a creative perspective to have access to all the tools in my set to achieve the results I'm seeking.

And as I've written all install when, for example, I instead am working with PSP.
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Are you on a mac or PC? if you are on a PC I can write a little command line ditty that will list them in about 5 seconds. I'm curious to see what is important to users. I've done 100 tools for the new book, and can't imagine needing another 75 plugins (all likely with multiple capabilities)...are they plugins or actions? If they are proper plugins, you may be running into memory issues, which might explain the hit-or-miss loading.
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