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Old 06-28-2007, 04:49 PM
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"Free" tools for PSE5?

I have been unable to get the ftp link to download these, despite following the instructions on the website. The email sent to me just contains a link back to the main Hidden Elements website. Am I missing something here or are the tools not actually free and the donation mandatory rather than optional? Thanks.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:33 PM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

All these views and no one knows? I think I got my answer, which is what I suspected anyway. Free means free and these tools are promoted as such on many forums. The small fee is reasonable, but it should just be upfront that's what it costs...
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:35 PM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

i dont know if this is the case with what you're seeking here or not, but some sites advertise 'free downloads', which means you can download the software for free but sometimes have to pay to unlock it. this is one of those little idiot advertising tricks we all know and lov...hate.

'free download' can mean two things, in other words; free to download (some sites actually charge you to just download) and free software. and they dont always tell you which is the case.

but again, i dont know if this is the case or not with the 'free tools'.
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Old 07-01-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

Thanks for taking the time to respond. One person out of so many views, this forum is unique to say the least. I made an assumption that on this part of the forum the people here were all using these tools and the author's books, but maybe that was an error on my part.

These tools are clearly promoted as free on many sites, and since other Elements plug-ins are free, not an unusual tact, perhaps to encourage a book purchase in order to get the "full" benefit of the free offering. I am very internet savvy, and it clearly states you will be sent an email with an ftp site link to upload the file and it states the file. That doesn't happen, so I don't know if the website is not functioning properly, although the server does generate the email only it is not as stated, or the whole thing is a run around. Not exactly shocking after all this is the web.

I am certainly not adverse to paying for things, do it all the time. Not a biggie, it seems I really don't need these plug-ins anyway, as I have already gotten some of the components, for free, yes free, and Graffi has a great site with plug-ins, not for free but you get a lot for what you pay.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:25 AM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

Well, here is why I did not give you an answer: I have used the tools for Elements 4 and most of all I have learned so much from the book that I was eager to know what the 'free' tools were like. I thought fit to make this very small 'donation', so I cannot give an answer since I don't know what would have happened otherwise!
It seems that Richard Lynch does not receive automatically your posts, why not try to email him directly (his email is on his site)?

Michel B
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:44 AM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

Thanks Michel. I just tried again for fun and it's clear it doesn't work for free and that the "donation" is mandatory. A donation is something that is given freely ( there's that word again), so by definition not a donation either. It's cool, a bit deceptive, but cool... You can get the color channels and the masks and the transform tool and a great curves plug in for free elsewhere anyway. These all get Elements features closer and closer to Photoshop, which is the goal anyway.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:51 AM
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Re: FREE tools for PSE5.

The donation is NOT manditory; the tools are ABSOLUTELY FREE (at least the free ones are, others are clearly marked). The same exact link is used for the free download and the donation download -- they are just delivered differently (one via email, and one via the paypal site). I have not answered as I have been on vacation and I am the only guy working for me--I decided to take a real vacation, where I had to pack my laptop in a backpack and ride 6 miles or so if I really had to do some work...I don't get any money to support the free downloads. And free IS free. I have no idea why you can't get it to work. If you got a link via email, the link should work UNLESS :

1. You are using the wrong browser (the browser needs to be able to navigate to FTP sites; IE6 and Firefox seem to work just fine and both are free). It says this on the website.

2. Your security settings are too high (you can lower them without harming anything, or lower them just for the visit).

3. Your email client does not handle email with embedded links.

Thousands of people have downloaded the tools successfully--Free. My email address is right on the site in many places and it is fine to contact me if you have trouble, however, reading the troubleshooting and doing your own if you can works best, as all I do is follow my own instructions. In most cases (99% from what I can tell) downloads and installs work just fine.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:00 AM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

PS -- in the future if you have questions about specific versions of the tools, please post them to the appropriate area in the forum. Thanks!
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:03 AM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

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i dont know if this is the case with what you're seeking here or not, but some sites advertise 'free downloads', which means you can download the software for free but sometimes have to pay to unlock it. this is one of those little idiot advertising tricks we all know and lov...hate.
I don't pull 'idiot tricks,' sir. My tools are free and have been since I introduced them. There are no hidden fees for the free tools and the download works if you try it. Moderators should use a little care in dealing with other moderators of the same forum...
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: "Free" tools for PSE5?

Sir, I clearly never stated you were trying to "cheat" anyone out of the $5, in fact I stated it was a reasonable fee. Anyone clicking the donation button knows they are agreeing to pay $5 for your tool set...
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