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Old 03-09-2007, 02:48 PM
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Help Date this Photo, Please.

Hi.

My customer asked me to restore this picture, which I have done, But she also asked if I could date it for her.

When I mentioned that my friends at Retouch Pro may be able to help she gave me permission to post it.

She thinks it may be her grandmother but is not sure.

The original picture is mounted onto card. There is no photographer info to help date it.

Can anyone date this from the clothes? I can post close-up pictures if required.

Thanks.

Ken.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:53 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

I'm not a pro at dating pictures, but here is my best guess.

Not knowing a thing about your clients age, and therefore unable to guess how old her great grandmother is, I would guess this picture was taken between 1914 and 1920. Prior to those dates, hemlines were still to the floor. After that the flapper look was popularized and fashions were created to make women look long and lean (no high waists).

Here's a link to an image that looks close to what the women were wearing and why I picked that date range...

http://www.marquise.de/en/1900/pics/1910/1916_4.shtml

If you want to look at the fashions going all the way back to medieval times you might want to check out this website...

http://www.marquise.de/en/1900/pics/1910/1910c.shtml
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Old 03-09-2007, 04:23 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

Hi Kerry.

Thanks for the links.. My customer is 'middle aged' if that helps.
Also there was a typo in my first post. I typed Great Grandmother when I meant Grandmother so that fits in far better with your dates.

I have amended the first post.

Ken.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

Yep, I'm with Kerry on dates- roughly around WW1 for sure.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:35 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

Hi,
I would agree the datestamp for me might be a little higher 1920-25,
Flappers were just coming post ww1.
But these look a bit like my Aunty F b1901,she was a Nanny,similar clothes to these.and these look as if in service,rather than scullery maids.
Not knowing which is which,
the lady on right has no wedding that I can see.

Maybe if the owner of the picture gets her G.mother Death cert.age will be on this..subtract to get Birth date..and obtain marriage cert..this would certainly narrow it down.

recently a tv showon UK tv "lillies" set c.1920 featured women with similar clothes

hope this may be of some use..got to get me two pence worth in

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Old 03-10-2007, 12:26 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

Hi.

Thanks, it is nice to see you all agree on dates. I will pass the info on to her.

Welcome to RetouchPro makem magic.

Ken.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:33 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

I'd say post WWI and pre-flapper era, so 1918-1922. Nice photograph.

Cliff.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:56 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

I think we are all in the ball park so to speak. Attached is a picture of my great grandmother, my grandmother, and her oldest child, who was born in 1917. The dress styles match almost perfectly. I should also note that the very small town where they lived was about 2 years behind in fashion. So if the young ladies in the picture in question lived where fashion was current, that would make a big difference.

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Old 04-13-2007, 02:36 PM
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Re: Help Date this Photo, Please.

Hi.

Thanks.

I passed on all the info and my customer is very happy.

Janet, your picture is indeed very similar. Thanks for posting it.

Ken.
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