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Old 03-11-2005, 01:02 PM
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Your first outcome looks great to me.
IMHO, this shot was from film scanning...maybe scan preset could be wrong.

I see what you say 'grey' but cound't spot exactly what is so called 'beard'.
Could you show me that with some 'color lines around the troubled part'?

By the way, the white background makes my eye so tired...after long staring on this picture...I can't decide what is the grey. ???!!!
It came across my mind that 'If background('s color or brightness and etc.) went different, the object's would look diffrent as before.'

I 've just changed attachments on previous post of mine. What do you think?
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:09 PM
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Was this originally a high key image?
I know sometimes when trying to drop the contrast a bit that wierd shadow and surreal highlight thing happens.
Just curious.
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Juliana Ross
Was this originally a high key image?
I know sometimes when trying to drop the contrast a bit that wierd shadow and surreal highlight thing happens.
Just curious.
I've interpreted(???) this picture as highkey image.
I'm curious, too.


grafx : Thanks for your kind words.

MBChamberlain : Nice work! I wonder how you treated highlights area?
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:19 PM
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Grey Skin

I took your picture and copied using screen blending mode. I then copied it again in screen blending mode and placed a black layer mask on the second layer. I painted the area under the chin on the mask.

It did help and I mad no other adjustments.
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:28 PM
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Hi and welcome to RP,

I usually "replace" the skin tones when this happens. I find these swatch files handy when working with skin and hair. I created a solid color layer, set to the color blend mode at 75%, and filled it's mask with black. Then created a selection from the red channel and painted the skin color in with a white brush.

Then a quick selective color layer and it looks ok. I'm not sure what the best color for her skin is, but this is a way to deal with the problem.
I took a stab at it and it doesn't look near as good as yours - what brush settings were you using? were you working off the original picture, or the second one i posted?
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Juliana Ross
Was this originally a high key image?
I know sometimes when trying to drop the contrast a bit that wierd shadow and surreal highlight thing happens.
Just curious.
Showing my ignorance here, but no idea what a high key image is I was provided tif files, that's the first time i saw these images.

Thanks so much everyone for the help - My boss wants to get more work from this customer, but I'm afraid to encourage her to do so if I can't handle the models :/

-S
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:37 PM
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Maybe ask if they have the raw image.

It looks like someone mucked about with it and then handed it off to you.
If that's the case, some info you need may have been wiped out.

You can always tell her you need unmanipulated images to work from in the future.
I work in a lab and sometimes the photographers best intentions get in the way There are a couple who thought they were "making things easier" for the lab. Long story short we asked them to just hand off the images to us and allow us to do the voodoo that we do so well
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:42 PM
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Wow, I feel the same way a
s you do, Julian Ross.


p.s. Canon EOS-1Ds daylight.icm works somewhat.

1. Just copy this color profile to
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color
then open Photoshop~
2. Open the image.
3. Image>Mode>Assign profile : select 'Canon Eos-1Ds
(This step do not change RGB color value but the appearance.)

...After retouch your work

4. Image>Mode>Convert to profile
then select a relevent color profile. If for web, you can select 'sRGB~'.

I hope this to be a little help.
===================================
Here is the sample. I think this can be a good starting point!
1. just assign profile

2. Image>Mode>Match Color : Luminance 125, Intensity 90, Fade 5
(if Photoshop CS)

3. Filters>Sharpen>Unsharpen Mask

4. convert to profile:sRGB)

By the way, I can't attach this color profile (200KB). If you need this I can e-mail you.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:11 PM
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I think I adjusted the levels before I started. Once you have your color layer and your mask created, you can change the color of that layer until you are happy with it. As for the brush it was just a standard white brush. A lot of the toning was done with the selective color adjustment layer.

Michael
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:26 PM
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When I look at the image, most of the problem seems to be in saturation and luminosity. To try and fix it, I tried one of my least favorite techniques: Select > Colour Range (I detest Colour Range).

Picked a shade of grey around 50%.
Select > Colour Range around 110.
Used it as a mask.

The first mask I pumped up the Saturation via Hue/Saturation.
Inverted the mask and did some Curves tweakage to lighten.

Not really happy with the Lum, though.
She has that 'beard'.
Not sure how I would tackle the beard.
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