Help With Double Chin

[BIZZYB]

I Am Not Very Good At Working Around The Face Area. Can Someone Tell Me If There Is Any Way To Eliminate Some Of The Double Chin Going On In This Picture. Thought This Picture Was Very Sweet, So Doing A Gift For A Friend With This Picture. Thanks In Advance...bizzyb

[T Paul]

This thread may give you some good pointers:

Fixing double chins

Here is a tutorial that might help too:

Retouching Faces with Photoshop's Liquify Tool

[T Paul]

I gave it a quick go...

1. Duplicate image
2. Use liquify to remove double chin
Filter>Liquify

Use the freeze tool and freeze areas of the lower face that you do don't want changed.

Now use the Forward Warp tool to slowly push the unmasked areas of the face up...removing the double chin.

You can use the Thaw Mask tool to unfreeze areas, and you might experiment with the pucker tool on the chin area.

Select OK

3. The new chin area might have some jaggies....use the blur tool to soften these areas.

4. Add a bit of noise to the overly smooth areas.

5. Create a new layer, use a brush set to multiply and opacity of 10%, color black...paint in shadows along the neck of the new chin area. Lower this layer's opacity if you need to.

6. Apply a levels adjustment to boost the colors

7. Apply a slight unsharp mask

[Ken Fournelle]

T Paul lists two very good resources.

I used the Liquify Filter to fix the chin(s) in your photo. I used also the Clone Stamp tool to put back in the hair distorted by the tool and an Empty Layer set to Soft Light to shade the neck. On the neck, I added .50 of noise. Blur tool @ about 60 on the jaw line.

k

[Legacy~Art]

Not an expert lol...

I gave the lady a new sweater, one with a neck and fluffed her hair up giving her more locks around her face, was it her wedding day, well i am hoping it wasnt as i have never seen a bride with a polo neck on...

I hope one of the experts come tell us how its done...FLORA where art thou?

[venivedi]

I had a go with channel mixer, curves adjustment layer, and color profile(1Ds Tungsten Corrected)

[BIZZYB]

i took some adviice i received and played around with it. i didnt want to completely take out all of the double chin.. just enhance it a lilttle. please tell me what you think for my first go at it...thanks to all for your help..diana

[Caitlin]

I agree with your Bizzyb - you don't want to alter her so much she doesn't look like her anymore, and completely removing the double chin could do that. You simply want to de-emphasise it a little. I think you managed it pretty well, though I think you could soften the line on her neck just a little more.

[BIZZYB]

Caitlin,
How Do You Suggest I Do That, I Tried With The Clone Too But Did Not Look Very Good. Not Sure How To Soften It Otherwise, Thanks For Your Encouragement. Diana

[Caitlin]

Hi Diana,

I just had a quick go on your latest version. I used blur and dodge to largely remove the fold on her neck. I think that makes the double chin less prominent. I removed the baby's red eye while I was there too!

[T Paul]

The image is looking good and I love all the community support. I like how you aren't completely removing the double chin, but just de-emphasizing it. That is a much better approach. I'm sure your friend will love the final product. Be sure to share your final results with us!

I'd also like to see a version without the vignette (the soft border).

~T

[venivedi]

Originally Posted by T Paul

The image is looking good and I love all the community support. I like how you aren't completed removing the double chin, but just de-emphasizing it. That is a much better approach. I'm sure your friend will love the final product. Be sure to share your final results with us!

I'd also like to see a version without the vignette (the soft border).

~T

I'm in the same opinion.

[BIZZYB]

Thanks For your Oninions Everyone. Thought I Would Show You Where I Am At...diana

[cooloox]

Hi everyone,

this is my first time in here. I have made a quick rough attempt at working on the lady's face. I have taken a different approach, in that I have not attempted to "remove" the double chin, but rather I have made it appear a little smaller and her face a little narrower.
I wanted to retain the character of the lady's face. Anyone who knows her will know she has a double-chin, so to totally remove it will take away her character. If anyone wants me to try that, I am happy to do so though!
It is late and I am off to bed, if anyone likes the version I did, or wants me to totally remove the extra chin, leave a message and I will do so. I can explain how I achieved my result too.

Brian.

[cooloox]

Ok, I weakened and quickly fixed the chin further. A little rough and ready, but let me know what you think.

Take care everyone, sleep at last :-)

Brian.

[venivedi]

It looks much better to me, diana.

coolux, I like the neck part in the second one, because it looks convincing.
By the way, the lower part of her left ear looks a little strange.(maybe because of distance change between the ear and the chin) Good job!

[BIZZYB]

Cool,

Both Versions Look Great. I Especially Like The One Where You Left The Chin. That Is My Sentiments. Getting Rid Of It Is Too Much Change. Your Version Is So Much Better Than Mine. Please Do Leave Instructions On Your Method. Thanks So Much For Your Input...diana

[cooloox]

Hi everyone, sorry, I did not notice this 2nd page with your comments on it. I did the retouching in Corel Photopaint, so I hope I use the same terminology as you.
For the 1st image I began by making a soft-edged selection of the lady's jaw at the right of the pic. I then darkened it using levels and it made her face look a little narrower right away. The selection has to be very soft to blend into the rest of the face. Then I cloned a small part of her hair over her face on both sides to narrow the face further.
I usually clone as much as possible, as blurring/smudging rarely looks realistic. In this case though, there was very little to clone from on the neck, so I cloned out the crease in the neck and then smudged it a little to smooth it out. Then I added some noise to take away the blurry look. I used the dodge/burn tool to darken the neck, and that was about it.
Now, the 2nd image introduced a technique I notice no-one here is using. The most realistic looking jaw is going to be a real jaw. So what I did was make a rough selection of Nancy's jaw line (does not have to be accurate, just make sure it is all covered) and copy that to a new layer. (In Photopaint the click of a button creates a new layer from a selection). I then slid the jawline up her face to where I wanted it. Then I used clone/smudge/add noise to remove the old jaw line and clean up the neck a little. This did not blur the new jawline as that was on a new layer. I flattened the layers and blended anything around the jaw that stood out. I used the dodge/burn tool again to slightly darken the jaw line and make it continuos.
It is fairly rough as I did that quickly very late last night. With more time available I would have made it perfect. The ear was a bit weird as you said, that is because it was late and I did not even notice it...lol. Talking of late, it is 3.45am here now!! I had better get some sleep. I have another 'before and after' to show you of my neighbour. His double chin is slightly trickier as he is front on and does not have a definite jawline. I will post it for anyone to try. How do I start a new thread please?
I have been restoring photos for a long time and I am happy to help anyone any time. Ask away if you are ever stuck on something.
Brian.

[Dreamypix]

I gave it a go! I hope it's worthy..

(Using Photoshop 7)
Step 1: Duplicate Background layer
Step 2: Auto levels (I know-how lazy of me )
Step 3: When I looked at the red channel, it was really blown out, so there was not much tonality in the skin. To fix this I simply created a Channel Mixer adjustment layer- Checked the Monocrome box, turned the Red Channel to 0% and turned the green up to 100%. You will see that the image will be Black and white. To fix this change the Blending Mode to Luminisity. This will bring back the detail and tone to her face. (Thanks to Katrins book!)
Step 4: I used the Liquify tool to push the skin on the neck up towards the chin. The patched the wrinkles/shadows. Fading each patch slightly to let the old skin show through.
Step 5: Lasso the skin on the neck, add noise (I thought it was still too smooth!)
Step 6: Whiten teeth, brighten eyes, fix baby red eye.
Step 7: Flatten image and Save!

On a totally different note, I took the flattened image and made her face appear slimmer with a technique I believe is found either in A: Katrins book or B: Scott Kelbys book. I will have to find some more time to write how I did that, but for now I hope this helped.

Amber