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Old 01-08-2006, 05:17 AM
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Washed out, milky look

Is the backlighting too strong to cause this flat look?? And can it be 'saved'?? Help!

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Old 01-08-2006, 08:46 AM
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Try a curves adjustment layer - no changes to curve and set the layer mode to screen.

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Old 01-08-2006, 09:00 AM
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Hi Kiska.

I tried a contrast Mask and curves but they both seemed to be pushing the colours the wrong way.

I used three layers set to Multiply to darken the background and then two layers set to Screen to lighten the face.
(In my picture the bottom three layers are the Multiply layers)

The problem is that lightening the face enhances the jpeg artefacts. I used Neat Image to smooth them out.
A layer set to colour Mode evens out the blotches in the skin.

I think I may have lightened this too much. Perhaps one layer of screen may have been enough. Or you can play with the opacity of the second Screen layer.

Ken
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:45 AM
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Thanks guys. I'll give these a try. Afraid it might be a reshoot, tho. Just not much to work with.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:19 AM
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I have to agree. Tried Eismann's fill flash action but just didn't work. With such a wonderful bright light source, could you not shoot with her face angled into it?

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Old 01-08-2006, 10:34 AM
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This is somebody else's shoot. Trying to help 'em out. Did the flash fill, and have Katrin's book. Just hoping for the 'magic bullet' I guess.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:15 AM
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Have you tryed shadow/highlight ajustment?
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:24 AM
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Recroped. Deleted the white background

Added a Curves AJ layer and brought up the midtones, masked out the adjustment and painted it back in (white brush) on her face.

The backgound in this case isn't important.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:26 AM
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kiska,

i know you're asking mostly about the lighting and i think ken's version handles the problems there darned well, but there are other corrections that need to be made in that shoot as well. you have a head and shoulders shot here. it's too far into the background and poorly framed. so, your friend here has a lot of dead space in the image that isnt important to the image.

also, another way of going about changing the lighting would be masking the girl and treating this separately in a contrast/brightness filter or even with blend modes like ken did. masked with a screen blend might do it. or, if you have a 'lighten/darken' tool, you might could do it that way also.

myself, i think i'd be tempted to crop the entire image down closer to the girl and try 'illumination' and just relight from there.

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Old 01-08-2006, 11:56 AM
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These high contrast backlit shots are often tough because of the image detail that is blown away. What I did here was:

Select Luminosity (Ctrl+Alt+Tilde)
Invert Selection
Paste to new layer (Ctrl J)
Change Blend Mode to screen
Duplicate the screened layer
Flatten Image
Convert image to LAB color mode
Blurred the A & B channels
Curves adjusted B Channel to adjust skin tone
Added a gradient mask because to sharpen higher at top then a bottom of model

Not perfect but is a quick improvement. The other thing that might help would now be to select out the background and replace it with a more subdued color.

Regards, Murray
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