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04-04-2006, 09:57 PM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 8
| | | Help Please, Suggestions to Improve Pageant Pictures One of my friends had a pageant and I wanted to try to retouch and improve some of the pictures that i took. The pageant was held in a high school gym, so the lighting was horrible and some of the backrounds are pretty bad too... I only had my small compact camera (Canon A520) so i know a lot of the pictures aren't very good to start off with, but i can't take them again so i'd like to do whatever I can to improve what i have. If anyone could give me suggestions on what to do to improve these pics id really appreciate it, BTW im currently using Photoshop 7, I've used Paint Shop Pro 7 before so im not entirely new to digital image software, but I am new to photoshop so any tutorials would be nice too... Thanks:
1. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3...lpic7801cx.jpg
- This is the picture I want to try to improve more than any, unfortuantely im afraid its also the worst, the lighting and colors are really far off i think, also its look pretty noisy, would the noise show up too bad in a 4 X 6" print? The background also isn't the best, but I would be happy just to get the pic itself looking better
2. http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7...lpic7856kf.jpg
- This is probably my second favorite picture, the subject is exposed much better on this one, and except for the red eye there are no major problems that I can spot, I really think the background distracts from the picture though, i tried to improve it below, but i would appreciate any more tips on this image.
2. (edited) http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8973/editcopy6rl.jpg
- This is my first try at replacing a background, eliminating red eye in Photoshop, and improving a subject overall, Im still not very happy with the background, i pasted the original image over the BG and used a mask and paintbrush to erase everything but the subject. Unfortunately her hair provided quite a challenge and I still don't think it looks very good. (BTW i know the background isn't the best but i was mainly trying to see if i could even do it). I also removed some very slight blemishes with a healing and clone brush. I then made a new layer, painted her eyes with a brownish color, set the mode to color dodge and fixed the opacity. Lastly i copied the background, applied a gaussian blur, and then lowered the opacity to try to give the picture a softer look. So can anyone tell me what i did wrong/need to work on?
3. http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/124...lpic7846th.jpg
- these last two i'm not quite as picky about, however i would appreciate any suggestions on how to enchance them, I hate the backgrounds in these pictures, however I don't really want to try to replace the background and eliminate the, personal memories i guess you could say (I want the viewer to still remember the picture was from the pageant and not a studio). Any advice?
4. http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1...lpic7819mn.jpg
- about what i said for the last picture, I'm pretty sure i need to try to crop this? any other ideas?
Thanks for the help, im pretty new at this as you can probably tell, but i really want to learn! I'd also appreciate any suggestions as too different dramatic/visual effects i could add to these pictures to make them more interesting. Thanks!
-Justin | 
04-04-2006, 11:17 PM
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Posts: 112
| | | Here is my try for the fist one.
Did not touch background as girls are so pretty I did not notice it.
Larry | 
04-05-2006, 03:30 AM
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Posts: 2
| | | Here's my attempt at this pic. Removed the braces, the glare on the skin, fixed the skintone a bit and fiddled around with the background. | 
04-05-2006, 04:10 AM
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| | | Your First Image Well I only did four things to the first photo. I cropped it, I used a curves adjustment layer, the red eye reduction tool, and Neat image to remove digital noise.
The digital noise was prevalent in all three channels in rgb, and all three channels in Lab.
__________________ Phil | 
04-05-2006, 09:54 AM
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| | | Had a quick go with the 1st pic.
Cropped for better framing. Adjusted levels and curves to colour correct and adjust contrast/lighting.
Took out red eye and cloned out braces.
Neat Image to reduce noise.
Bit of selective sharpening would improve it further, but I'm short of time at the moment. | 
04-05-2006, 11:02 AM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 41
| | Pageant Lovely ladies. The biggest issue I believe, that most of these images have, is distractions. The chair by the podium for example, etc. It is an ancient gym the pageant was held in. Remove the date identifiers, fan in the wall, electrical cord on the floor etc. Crop down to your subjects and remove the biggest destractions that have little to do with the pageant itself. I'd leave the scoreboard, podium, cleaner lines of the bricks etc. and just remove the destracters.
I think my favorite is the photo of the two girls following the pageant actually. Obviously, they've formed a bond, and that's the "story" of the photo. I removed the boy, the checkered shirt behind the dark headed girl, the light and the box on the wall to the right. Burned in some shadowing, heavy handed admittedly, but to give you an idea how you can bring the focus in on the girls themselves, without losing the "where" of the moment.
Good luck to you! lovely photos.
__________________ I take the long road around because the trip's half the pleasure and oh boy! You can't beat the view! | 
04-08-2006, 11:58 PM
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| | | I had a try with the first photo too-- tried to use levels/curves to fix lighting, noise reduction, lighten shadows on face, reduce noise more...decreased saturation slightly and warmed back up with a filter.
-K | 
04-10-2006, 12:49 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 471
| | Been fidgeting around with this off and on.
Fairly quick extraction done in three parts--used a path to get most of it, but used contrast masking for the left-most blond hair. Used a smudge brush to wisp-up the right-most dark hair. Pretty much had to do the extraction like this due to high noise and low contrast.
Also (obviously) used brightening, color balance, and noise reduction on the subjects.
Background burst flare is homemade--just something fun. http://home.comcast.net/~zumbari/pagent.jpg
Bart | 
04-10-2006, 08:06 AM
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| | | I tried to keep the atmosphere and surroundings intact. Used selective colour layers to correct the colour balance. High pass and gaussian blur layers to reduce noise. Copy layers selectively applied in screen and soft/hard light blending modes to bring out the shine in the hair, jewlellery, eyes, teeth and skin. | 
07-03-2006, 03:55 PM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midwest
Posts: 2
| | | Just for fun Used levels to brighten eyes and teeth. Removed red eye. Extracted girls and put on a new layer which I filled with solid color and used various artistic brushes. Added a drop shadow and softened edges on the girls layer. Please note just did this quickly for fun. Not perfect by any means.
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07-03-2006, 08:41 PM
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| | | Just thought I would take a shot at the first picture. Tried to get a studio look. Cropped to 5x7 to eliminat a lot of the background. Use Neat Image to eliminate 1/2 of the noise. Adjusted color slightly, removed red eyes, whitened teeth, slight gaussian blur on the skin, replace the background.
Last edited by duwayne : 07-03-2006 at 09:21 PM.
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07-03-2006, 11:52 PM
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| | | nice pictuers, pretty young ladies.
the main points here were digital camera noise removal.
jpg artifact removal.
lighten/darken brush
clone
push
high pass sharpen (at a very low setting)
darkening the background with a fill/mask layer.
color balance adjustment layer
brightness/contrast adjustment layer
a thousand little touches.
craig
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11-22-2006, 09:44 AM
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| | | Re: Help Please, Suggestions to Improve Pageant Pictures Just tried to bring out the girls a little.
Smoothed it out a tad.
Lasa | 
11-22-2006, 01:24 PM
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| | | Re: Help Please, Suggestions to Improve Pageant Pictures Ran noise ninja
added levels adjustment layer
removed redeye, whitened teeth using curves adjustmnet layers
added catchlight into brunette girl's right eye
copied teeth from blonde girl to remove brace on brunette girl
USM around eyes, hair, mouth.
Kept background, but cleaned it up a tad.
Cropped imge | 
11-23-2006, 06:51 AM
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| | | Re: Help Please, Suggestions to Improve Pageant Pictures some nice renditions here. too bad the originator didnt show back up. he posted the originals on april 4th, 2006 and never came back, apparently 
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