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Old 05-05-2006, 01:17 AM
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Good luck. Keep us posted as to how things go.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:26 AM
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photoshop is really the best all-around tool. i've tried them all and will continue to do so, but nothing beats it. get used to navigating yourself around, and pic up some books from Scott Kelby (after that point there are numerous others you should try). Try every tutorial you're interested in, more than once if you have the time. Also get used to messaging people on these forums, bc as I've found, some people are more prone to opening up to you individually about their "secrets" than posting the details in an open thread... this is alot less prevalent here, more so on some photography sites etc... I think you lucked out coming here. RetouchPro members are very proactive and share what's in their heads

oh and the sooner you get used to Photoshop Actions - creating your own, etc - the better.
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Old 05-08-2006, 09:27 PM
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Frustrated

I appreciate all the help so far, but I'm getting frustrated.

I have tried many of your techniques, but have yet to get any usefull results.

I know you have all been doing this for quite a while, but you would think
someone like myself who works on computers for a living should be able to
get results out of a program.

Yes, I know practice makes perfect, and I should just be more patient.

Anyway, I have had the most luck with Bart's mathematical process, I was close and then with a click of the mouse I was back to the drawing board.

I also tried Flora's technique but got stuck on how to lighten the stain without destroying the underlying detail.

I know you all would consider it cheating, but what do you all think about using a photo with a similar expression and replacing the face?

I guess I would also be interested in suggestions on where I should go to start learning how to truely use Photoshop.

Like most people I just hoped for the magic button.

Thanks

Steve
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:52 PM
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Here is a start of what I have in mind.

Steve
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Old 05-09-2006, 02:51 AM
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Hi Steve,

In my opinion, one of the biggest advantage but, at the same time, most confusing disadvantage of Photoshop is the nearly infinite number of ways, methods and technique you can use to get the 'same' result ....

Bart is an absolute genius with numbers .... I am right at the opposite end ... meaning I work by simply 'eyeballing' ....

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I know you all would consider it cheating, but what do you all think about using a photo with a similar expression and replacing the face?
.. We all do it in these difficult cases ... that is... if we are lucky enough to have access to another picture of the same subject ... and, if not, I have sometimes borrowed from a different subject with similar features ...
That said, I've never changed a 'whole face' ... but, since in the second picture you used, your grandson's expression is really very, very similar to the original you could try it and see your daughter's reactions ....

Personally, I would replace only parts in the stained area, trying to keep/salvage the 'hand with apple piece in mouth' because, in my opinion, it is just these 'small' details that make a 'mom's heart ... melt'
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Old 05-09-2006, 07:28 AM
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I just had to try this...alot of copy and pasting, cloning and smudging.
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:56 AM
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Ziaphra

I'm glad that you did. I know that I keep working on it... but you did an excellent work.
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:58 AM
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Thank you very much.
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Old 05-09-2006, 02:14 PM
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i'm with flora on this. i prefer to keep as much of the original as possible, replacing with a substitute ONLY if there is no other choice. the idea on retouching and restoring is make a duplicate of the original, not a substitute. but, as flora also pointed out, sometimes you just have to. in my opinion, this was not one of those times. but hey, the client is always right; so, if she likes it, go for it

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